when you receive a file with xchat this is placed in ~/.xchat2wouldn't ~/download/ be better?

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 17.11.2004, 12:12 +0000 schrieb Lorenzo E. Danielsson:
> > > Do you want me to go to the desktop and sit and drag and drop every time
> > > I download something? I'm sure you don't mean that. I've just
> > > misunderstood you.
> > 
> > as i am using nautilus in its default setup and want to actually manage
> > (in oppsition to browse) my files with the filemanager it is annoying to
> > have a extra folder on my desktop that i would have to open and
> > drag/drop my files from there to other folders. and i guess most of the
> > people out there will use nautilus in its default way (and be it just
> > because of not knowing the difference).....
> 
> Can you explain this, with some examples? You attach two labels to
> (possibly) different ways of working with files and directories,
> "managing" and "browsing". Possibly different because you don't really
> know how I interact with my system. 
yep, sure.... i wouldnt make such statements if i couldnt explain my
opinion:

browse: if my german translations are right, it means to graze or to
turn over a page....browsing for me is something i do on unordered data
that may be a havoc of files, pictures music...whatever you like....
browsing for me also is digging through deep hierarchies of folders to
reach my data....browsing is a perfect way for using internet data that
i can not force in any order....(except trough bookmarking which has
browsing as a prerequisite)

manage: putting things in order, categorizing things, dont leave them
unordered. in the case of files: keeping a very flat hierarchy of a
little number of folders of a good categorization (actually i dont have
to open more than 2 folders to reach all my data).....

> If I understand you, you mean that keeping things you download on the
> desktop constitutes an example of "managing files", but putting
> downloads in a different folder, even with a clearly defined name, such
> as "Downloads", is an example of "browsing files". Boy, now I'm
> confused. In which cases can I create extra folders and I don't end up
> being called "somebody who browses" (because that appears to be a bad
> thing). Can I put my development projects in separate folders? My
> images?
initially i just wanted to point out that there is a stiff opposition to
your rigid opinion, because that is how your writing affected
me....(your sentence didnt imply that you would be open to try it out
any other way)

to come back to the topic: 
i didnt like the spatial idea when gnome chose it as a default and my
first idea was to open gconf-editor to change it ... but then i decided
to give it a try and could slowly see how all my files changed their
positions on my filesystem into a new (a very sane one i think) order
while i was changing my behaviour of filemanagement.  at that time i
still had a "download" folder on my desktop which slowly filled up with
files i had to sort from time to time to their right place in my
hierarchy... i thought about it and recognized that there is a good
amount of time that could get saved if i would put them to the right
place directly after downloading, so i picked my desktop as a download
folder and had to clean up on the fly (which is... drag the file to the
matching folder icon on the desktop, no open folders at all.....no
rework).

i dont want to force you to do anything you dont want to and probably i
misunderstood your initial tone, i just wanted to point out that there
are others, using their systems in another way and that the majority of
users will keep their setup as is ...default....

:)

ciao
	oli

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