XXI century and still using 386 packages...

[Xan]

Dijous 14 Abril 2005 13:34, en/na Carl Karsten (<Carl Karsten 
<carl at personnelware.com>>) va escriure:
>>Re: XXI century and still using 386 packages...
>
> Xan wrote:
> > Dimecres 13 Abril 2005 15:17, en/na Carl Karsten (<Carl Karsten
> >
> > <carl at personnelware.com>>) va escriure:
> >>>Re: XXI century and still using 386 packages...
> >>>
> >>>Oooops!. I did not think about it. And if you save only diff files in
> >>> the server and ubuntu justs downloads i386 package + diff and builds
> >>> the y86 (y > 3) package (binary) in the computer. Or in analog way,
> >>> server could build a y86 (with diff and i386) when some user request?
> >>
> >>diff and especially compile need a bit of CPU - not much of a problem
> >>for one system, but when even 20 or 30 people all start hitting the same
> >>box, it would take "too long."
> >
> > So people have to take only diff file + i386.deb and locally make 486.deb
> > file (or whatever).  For your words, the best is to build package
> > locally.
> >
> >>>Perhaps it solves the problem?
> >>
> >>Gentoo is based on only supplying the source, and everything gets
> >>compiled on the target machine.  I still have a gentoo box, but I now
> >>call it Generally Too much hassle.
> >
> > Yes. I know gentoo. But I don't say exactly the same. I say to make a
> > binary package, not source package.
> >
> > With pack.i386 + packi386.to.i486.diff build a binary package for i486.
> > Not source package and compile it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Xan.
> >
> > PS: Perhaps it were good to CC Alberto
>
> Did I not reply to the list?  If so, sorry about that.
>
> I really don't have anything positive to add to this.  It isn't a bad
> idea, but I don't think it is worth investing time into. I don't see it  
> as being something that will be used in 3-5 years, and I don't see it
> helping that many people that much now.  Assuming 100,000 ubuntu users,
> I bet 1000 of them would be interested, and only 500 would actually do
> something, and how much better would they be?  Actually, 500 is high
> because the people who want to do something go for gentoo.  so the group
> is: people who want to do something, but not too much.  So the people
> who want gentoo, but like me think it is too much trouble.  pretty sure
> that is a very small group.  I would rather put effort into supporting
> low end hardware, like my friend who has about 100 486-66/8mb ram
> systems.  He is planning on throwing them away because it is too much
> trouble to do anything with them.
>
> Carl K

Yes. This is "the problem": time and too many few people interested in that. I 
was aware of that when I posted; only I suggested a "way" for doing the thing 
proposed by Alberto without being "radical" (delete the old i386 packages)

Gentoo installation is very difficult to install for novices.... (as me). A 
integration of ubuntu-installer plus gentoo package system perhaps were good 
for aproximate Gentoo to new users (desktop users).

But "this is another history".... ;-)

So, topic closed?


Thank you very much for the discussion. I like it very much.

See you next time,
Xan.