A few things

[Enrico Zini]

On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 04:44:46PM +0100, Ben Edwards wrote:

> > > 3. Where did this new wiki come from? I have no clue, I was not told
> > > about it before hand.
> > Me either, although I can see the reasons behind the move.
> I also have no idea - could the culprit please make them selves known ;)

I suggest we forgive this time and try to get things working (it makes
no sense going back anyway, I guess), but then make it clear that next
time changes like this need to be planned, or we will be really really
upset and take a very aggressive revenge like, yes, like something
really powerful and bad, like even tell people they've been bad, bad,
bad!


> last six months'.  My take on it is that the leader should be a
> grafter - I find there are generally too many ideas people and not
> enough grafters ;)

I feel like I agree, but I don't know: what is a 'grafter'? :)

I tried dict.  Besides the thing one do with plants, I thought this
meaning gave a funny twist to your phrase:  :-)
  Acquisition of money, position, etc., by dishonest or unjust means, as
  by actual theft or by taking advantage of a public office or any
  position of trust or employment to obtain fees, perquisites, profits
  on contracts, legislation, pay for work not done or service not
  performed, etc.; illegal or unfair practice for profit or personal
  advantage; also, anything thus gained.

> > http://www.enricozini.org/enrico/store/categ_proto.html
> This is good - few points.
> I think we need Application as  a topic.
> I think we should merge Setup and Customize - I find the distinction
> gray and not that useful.

Ok.  I exploded Application in Writing/Graphics/PIM in order to have a
more goal-oriented classification, but I see now that the goals
themselves could be a different facet altogether.

I put Setup and Customize to mean Install and Customize, which are
farily different.  But Install is probably better than setup.  How about
then:
  Topic:
     Application
     Networking
     Security
     Installation
     Customization
and
  Goal:
     Writing
     Computing
     Drawing
     Photo editing
     ...   (may be the same ontology used in the use:: facet of debtags,
     and may also be an opportunity to put some grain of salt in the
     debtags one as well)

> I do not think it should be a drop down list.  What Happens if I Want
> to select two topics - I also don't really like the term topic - I
> would like something very generic like tag or Category.

"Topic" was intended to be the name of a specific facet.

I think that needing to select more than one tag per facet is quite a
rare use case, so I don't think that the interface should be optimized
for that.

As a result, such a functionality should be put in a way that advanced
people can use it, but won't bother newbies.  One possibility would be
like the gq LDAP editor does: putting a small down-arrow to the right of
every facet pop-up, and clicking on it would add another drop-down list.


Ciao,

Enrico

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