network-manager 0.7 page

[Joel Goguen]

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 07:44 +0100, Dougie Richardson wrote:
> Thanks, in the context of the original poster I still think its confusing two seperate ideas, as you say you use it for wireless.
> 
> The point is, if he isn't familiar with it he needn't write about it.
802.1X is also used on wired networks.  It just happens to be the case
that my workplace only uses it for wireless right now, but I don't
imagine it'll be much longer before it's also implemented for the wired
network.  I don't believe the OP was confusing topics.  Not well
informed, sure, but I think the OP did a pretty good job considering the
lack of knowledge.  It's not perfect, but I would expect things to be
missing from anyone who wasn't quite familiar with all 5 types of
connections handled by NetworkManager as well as the relevant 802
standards.  I have a few things I would change, but they're mostly
fairly minor things that the average user would probably never notice.
Once I get a chance to go through the page properly (probably this
weekend) I'll comment further on the content (and add to it if I think I
can fill in blanks for the average user).  Overall though, I think the
OP did great by getting the page started.  Does it need to be edited?
Yes.  Doesn't mean it's not a good start though.  It's better than my
first attempt at a fresh page would be, I'm good for editing, updating,
and finishing docs, not at starting them from scratch.

It's been a while since I've been active here (I swear university
requires 26-hour days) but wasn't there talk at one point of a header
for pages that're in progress?  Something to let users know that the
page is currently in development?

For anyone interested... 802.1 is a working group of the IEEE, and
bridging is only part of what they deal with[1].  802 itself is the
family of IEEE standards dealing with networks that carry variable-sized
packets.  Part of 802.1 is security on 802 networks (be they 802.3
ethernet, 802.11 wireless, 802.15 PANs (802.15.1 Bluetooth and 802.15.4
ZigBee), 802.16 WirelessMANs...) which is defined in the 802.1X
standard[2].  

[1] http://www.ieee802.org/1/
[2] http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/802.1x-2004.html
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Goguen <jgoguen at jgoguen.ca>
> Sent: 22 October 2008 21:51
> To: Dougie Richardson <ddrichardson at btinternet.com>
> Cc: 'shirish' <shirishag75 at gmail.com>; ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: network-manager 0.7 page
> 
> On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 20:57 +0100, Dougie Richardson wrote:
> > I think you're confusing 802.1 with 802.11a/b/g/n. 802 is an entire family
> > of standards for LAN/WAN, 802.1 is Bridging but 802.1x would cover
> > everything from 802.10 to 802.19 of which only really 802.11, 802.15 and
> > 802.16 are concerned with any kind of "wireless".
> Actually, 802.1X is an IEEE standard for port-based network access
> control.  We use it at my workplace to authenticate users for access to
> the wireless network.  A quick look at it is on Wikipedia[1].
> 
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.1x
> 
-- 
Joel Goguen
Bug-free code is a myth.
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