Some fancy pants screwed help.ubuntu.com search again.

Harold Schreckengost mewshi at mewshi.com
Sun Aug 14 23:05:10 UTC 2011


Many sites use Google for internal search.  Their search system is top-notch
(which is how google got big enough).  I know that Ubuntu is meant to be
averse to RTFMism, but, in this case, I think I am justified in saying that,
if you have a better idea, by all means, share.

Ubuntu is about things "just working".  Using Google search on the site
makes things better, leaving more time for actual helping instead of
fighting with the search system.

Seriously, it's only "non-functional" because you won't allow a necessary
component.  I don't often hear about people returning cars because they
refuse to buy gasoline ;)

(Sorry if I came across... grouchy.  This kind of "you need to uproot the
whole system because I have unreasonable expectations!" Mentality annoys
me.)
On Aug 14, 2011 5:20 PM, "Marko Oreskovic" <markoresko at gmail.com> wrote:
> Some fancy pants screwed help.ubuntu.com search again.
> It request from me to allow google.com javascript to rum on my browsers
> and I definately will NOT ALLOW IT.
> Therefore, help.ubuntu.com is NON-FUNCTIONAL site.
>
> I just tried to do searching on help.ubuntu.com
> and it would not give back search results,
> since I am totally unwilling letting google.com java scripts run on my
> machine.
>
> Ubuntu help, naming, help.ubuntu.com should not depend on Google for
> search, it is quite disgusting depending on some company's service for
> internal OS documentation.
>
> If there is no resources, will or project space do do search buy self,
> then search results should be send and received to used searching
> help.ubuntu.com, WITHOUT sending information to GOOGLE.com about WHAT
> acually user is searching on help.ubuntu.com, it is concern of
> help.ubuntu.com, not Google and it's intrusive databases about WHAT
> Ubuntu users are searching.
> That is private user information, not Google's property (see
> scroogle.org for info)
>
> And at the end, if anything above IS rocket science and/or not
> understood by Ubuntu community, maintainers and/or Canonical itself
> about how to protect and save users,
> WHY (OH WHY) hel.ubuntu.com maintainer forces me to use Google java
> scripts again, to retrieve help.ubuntu.com results.
>
> I would just say that Google is personal information-hungry company and
> I ABSOLUTELY do NOT allow google.com Java Scripts to run on ANY of
> browsers on my machine (See NoScript.net for Mozilla Firefox and
> Seamonkey and NOscripts I think, For Chromium - Chrome is Google
> intrusive privacy-infested)
>
> The reason I personally use gmail is beside point.
>
> I will simply do not allow google.com javascript that is used on wide
> variety of web pages to TRACK MY MOVEMENTS AND SEARCES over sites, even
> I do not use Google.com for search directly.
>
> If help.ubuntu.com is becoming Google-infested phishing site please say
> so, if not,
> please at least leave us from need of using google.com Java Scripts on
> help.ubuntu.com like it was solved before!
>
> Thank you and please DO something about it.
>
> Marko O.
>
>
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