Some fancy pants screwed help.ubuntu.com search again.

[Marko Oreskovic]

Harold Schreckengost wrote:
> Many sites use Google for internal search.  Their search system is
Like scroogle.com. But many sites do it the right way, without killing
their users's privacy and forcing them to change habits.

If ubuntu.com requires running it's javascript that would be fine with
me. Not desirable but fine.
But forcing users to use some internet company programs is beyond
understanding when solution still exists and was working untill recently.

> top-notch (which is how google got big enough).  I know that Ubuntu is
> meant to be averse to RTFMism, but, in this case, I think I am justified
> in saying that, if you have a better idea, by all means, share.
Yes. bring back old help.ubuntu configuration that
"JUST WORKED" if you understand better that way, and stop screwing
around with problem-denial attitude.

> Ubuntu is about things "just working".  Using Google search on the site
> makes things better, leaving more time for actual helping instead of
> fighting with the search system.
I hope that not relates to  - "just silly" because people would
definitely not like to hear that.
You have all the time of this world with helping people without
introducing more problems to everyone.

> Seriously, it's only "non-functional" because you won't allow a
> necessary component.  I don't often hear about people returning cars
> because they refuse to buy gasoline ;)

It is NOT necessary.
And I used it several years that way on help.ubuntu.com
See this topic for previously freshly introduced problem like this
and how it was solved:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2008-November/thread.html#12168

Some recent changes on help.ubuntu.com web site, CHANGED it, requesting
from user to run google.com Javascripts.
Please re-check Subject of this thread.

I guess you would not allow using matches or open fire beside gasoline,
eather?

> (Sorry if I came across... grouchy.  This kind of "you need to uproot
> the whole system because I have unreasonable expectations!" Mentality
> annoys me.)

If you dare trying to use Noscript addon for your Firefox or Seamonkey,
then you might realize how important is to block google.com from using
javascript from all those sites all over the internet, on client
computers. And how stupid is to rely on them on user side.

What actually mentally annoys me is people that thing all the world
should be ignorant to the problems like they are.
If you are not self-aware about your browsing privacy, then do not stop
other people to understand why this is important.

Otherwise, feel free to understand what topic is about.
And that is mainly user privacy and disallowing OS documentation on site
of forcing people to use some other company's programs on client computers.
E.G. help.ubuntu.com changed configuration to kill Ubuntu user privacy.

Also, answering below quotes is somewhat nice behavior you could
consider adopting, beside staying on-topic.