Dutch translation wiki main page

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I think consensus about this previously has been to avoid translating
ALL pages.  The different language teams are free to translate
specific pages or create their own.

There are a very few pages that do need to be sync'd and kept
identical in each language but generally it seems better if groups are
free to decide for themselves so that they can be free how to best use
their time and are free to fit cultural norms rather than trying to
enforce americanisation.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 4 February 2014 16:29, Hannie Dumoleyn <lafeber-dumoleyn2 at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> op 04-02-14 13:15, Pasi Lallinaho schreef:
>>
>> On 04/02/14 13:59, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> On the wiki main page, perhaps under  the line "Scroll down to find
>>> the list of the major topics in this wiki.", I would like to add the
>>> following link:
>>>
>>> <<BR>> For the Dutch translation of this page, go to
>>>
>>> [[https://help.ubuntu.com/community/gebruikersdocumentatie|Gebruikersdocumentatie]]
>>>
>>> Am I allowed to do that? I have already given it a try without saving
>>> the page. There is still a problem; the color of the link is almost
>>> the same as the background color. I do not know how I can change the
>>> font color of the hyperlink.
>>>
>>> Hannie
>>>
>> Hey Hannie,
>>
>> there is no way to change the link color in the wiki. That's why that
>> box doesn't have links to begin with.
>>
>> Since we might have more translations, I don't think the place you
>> proposed is sustainable. The link shouldn't be too obtrusive for those
>> who can read English (which you need to know at least some to be able to
>> read most of the articles in the wiki anyway). I would say a place under
>> the "More resources" heading would be more appropriate for linking
>> language versions.
>>
>> Moreover, I think the biggest benefit of translated homepages is when
>> the wiki is linked from another site. For that, you don't need a link in
>> the main page.
>>
>> Ultimately, if the new page efficiently replaces the old translation
>> [1], I would copy the content of the new page over the old one (and
>> removing the new one) to keep existing links from other sites
>> up-to-date. (I imagine the new translated front page doesn't have *too*
>> many hits yet.)
>>
>> What do others think?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Pasi
>>
>> [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentationNL
>>
> Hello Pasi (and Tom),
> Thank you for your quick reaction.
> At this moment I am only experimenting/brainstorming. I have a lot of ideas
> and questions about translations of the wiki page(s).
> Questions: is it worthwhile? Will there be enough users of a certain
> language who do not understand English well enough? If so, then ALL the
> (linked) pages should be translated. Is that feasible?
> Ideas: (Hannie) send email to ubuntu-translators to see what other
> translators think about this. They should examine for their language if
> users are interested in translations of the wiki user docs.
> Some loco teams, the Dutch team included, have their own documentation pages
> in their own language, but that doesn't mean they are not interested in
> translated wiki pages. As we say: why should they reinvent the wheel?
> If we continue, where will we place the link to translated pages? I had a
> look at "Other resources" on the main wiki page. there are 3 text boxes at
> the moment. Could a 4th be added? Or is it better, as you suggest, to add
> the link to the loco team's website? Or both?
>
> The old page, UserDocumentationNL, is only partly translated. I may have
> done it myself a long time ago ;) I think we should stick to the new pages,
> and perhaps add the translated part of the old page to it. I'll have a look
> at it.
> Hannie
>
>
>
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