Event thoughts.

Tue May 11 11:14:51 UTC 2010

thanks sam for your msg i will reply it later

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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Ahmed Toulan <thelinuxer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Sam,
>
>
>> In response to M Fawzy's comment "@Sam, want to know ur ideas and thoughts
>> about the event :) on the mailing list :)"
>>
>>
>>
>> Personal thoughts...
>>
>> I know as a start I'll be sounding very demeaning or the very least
>> unappreciative, but please understand that the views I place are as neutral
>> as can be provided that I had expectations PRIOR to attending the event.
>>
>
> *It doesn't sound demeaning or anything. I personally knew, and a lot of
> the LoCo team members, that we will face such problems. It was a race with
> time. But I really think it's a little bit harsh to the volunteers
> especially to the organizing team in Cairo University and CECE, that's y I
> think I should answer every point in your email.*
> *
> *
> *A small piece of advice, don't make any expectations here in Egypt :)*
>
>>
>> That being said.
>>
>> 1) Since I've never attended Cairo University before, and to be honest my
>> expectations that it being the oldest university in the Arab world, and the
>> fact that Obama visited the site, hence we all know there was a lot of
>> refurbishing and retouching of the site.  I was expecting the building we
>> entered, especially the hall we were given, to be different than what I saw.
>>  Again I do understand now the situation we were in, it was a bit of a
>> surprise and shock.
>>
>> *I guess that's a personal point related to your own personal
> expectations. *
>
>
>> 2) If it wasn't for Mohamed Saudi and I think Mohamed Mahmoud who was with
>> him, I would have had to spend a while waiting outside the gate.  The
>> security would not let me enter and was not aware of the Ubuntu event.  Also
>> I noticed there were no posters or signs posted which I would have assumed
>> these things should be placed at the very least a week in advance, notice I
>> mean around the premises.  I am aware you placed posters elsewhere, it would
>> be ideal to know where they were placed for historical recording reasons so
>> that we can discuss their placements and what would be the best most
>> strategic locations to place future posters during events.
>>
>
> *As for the situation at the gates. They knew about the event as far as I
> know. I guess you were harassed at the gates because u looked too funky :D,
> not the kind of people they are used to see. We didn't print so much posters
> cause we didn't have enough money to do everything. The CECE team printed a
> few A3 posters as an advertisement about the event a week or so before the
> event.*
> *Actually we wanted to print a couple of banners to be placed in front of
> the building, but the issue was that we wanted these banners to be reusable
> while we weren't yet settled about the branding. Also, time and money was a
> gr8 issue.*
>
>
>> 3) Distribution Cd's/DVDs.  From the mailing list and at the day of the
>> event, I see that this was rushed to the point that the Cd's had to be
>> labelled and enveloped on the day, a couple of hours before the event
>> itself.  I'm curious why it was left to the last minute.  We will need to
>> discuss for future distribution efforts what sort of content should be
>> included.  E.g. I suggested earlier that we need to have
>> standard Ubuntu unmodified Cd's, custom preinstalled application DVDs, also
>> need to discuss the matter of having 64bit distributions as well, since
>> those who own core2+ or amd64bit+ processors will greatly benefit from 64bit
>> kernels PARTICULARLY for programmers/video editors/rendering projects, I can
>> def say I use 64bit all the time, and the difference of encoding video on
>> 64bit is more than half the time than using 32bit.
>>
>
> *That's simple. I got the design for the CD face on Monday. Got the
> stickers printed on Wednesday. There was no time to meet and distribute the
> stickers among the team. Everyone had a list of tasks to finish including
> burning CD, making the name tags ..etc*
> *Although this was the case, I personally labeled half of the CDs before
> the event.*
> *
> *
> *I won't discuss the CD/DVD content as this is a technical issue that
> needs to be addressed by the whole team.*
>
>
>> 4) Finances.  I was curious and asked Toulan who paid for the T shirts, I
>> assumed it was a group effort.  When in fact he handled the expenses
>> himself.  I do understand each of us have our part towards participation.
>>  But in terms of purchases it's only fair that EVERYONE participates in
>> this.  If you are paying with your heart and soul, a few ginehaat would help
>> a long way as well :)
>>
>
> *The guys wanted to pay for the T-Shirts, but I refused. As I told you
> this was a gift to the team, and I considered it my contribution. Also,
> everyone paid his part in the CDs and the covers.*
>
>>
>> 5) Statistics.  M Fawzy, I need from you: 1) complete list of the staff
>> that ATTENDED and their duties.  2) number of people attended.  3) number of
>> Cd's gave out (maybe some people took more than 1 CD?) 4) any feedback from
>> people who attended.  It would have been nice if there was some form of
>> "Feedback Form" whether on paper or online or both, so that we can tell
>> which sessions people found interesting, what did they think of the
>> instructors, so that we can also point out if any of you were slightly weak
>> in your presentations so we can all assist you in becoming a better teacher.
>>
>
> *I strongly agree that we need statistics. The CECE guys should send us
> the lits of attendees anytime now.*
>
>
>> 6) An idea.  If there will be repeat sessions, for example at EVERY event
>> there will be "how to install Ubuntu", "how to program in Linux" etc, I
>> think we should have ready made banners printed on vinyl with poles, and
>> posters framed etc (the details will be discussed later) just so that ANY
>> location we go to, we have a STANDARD setup made.  For example we can have a
>> container with Cd's already burned and labelled (always keep 200 for
>> distribution) stationary, power extension chords etc. and these containers
>> will have a checklist to make sure we have everything in them and stored
>> somewhere convenient at one of our places or storage location, so that we
>> have everything ready, all you need to do is get the containers, go to the
>> location, unpack and you're all set.  No need to bring things from your own
>> home and forget items etc.
>>
> *
> *
> *I agree with the banners idea, as I said in point no. 2. But I disagree
> with placing session names in the banners even if they repeat.*
>
>
>> 7) I need to know who is willing to help in blogging.  We need to have a
>> collaboration of designing a loco team website and allocating people and
>> turn it into a group blog site, where each person has access to a tab
>> section and making it their personal space for blogging about Ubuntu and
>> personal articles that is technology/Linux related as well.
>>
>
> *No problems from my side about this, but I think it's a little early for
> this. The team just came back to life. Also, most of the volunteers are
> students. They will be having their finals by the end of the month and I
> don't think they will be able to help us anytime soon. But planning won't
> hurt anyway, so I agree that we should look into this while expecting that
> it will take some time to make it live.*
>
>>
>> 8) I currently have my gf designing logos for us.  I do like the logo that
>> was made for the t shirts, but I'm thinking ahead, of having something
>> creative and attractive that can be used to make product placement items,
>> mugs, t shirts, flash memory, etc.  We can have a small stall/booth with
>> items that we can either, sell and use the money to finance our group when
>> we need to buy stuff (Cd's/printing products etc) or be used as part of
>> prizes during small game competitions during the event such as (brain quiz
>> games, egg spoon race)
>>
> *
> *
> *Please please please... That's a personal request and I don't know if the
> team will agree or not. Whatever the design that u'll make don't make it
> related to the pharaohs. What I mean is, don't we have anything else to
> identify ourselves with ? Of course we can have customized derivatives, for
> special occasions. *
>
>
>>
>> 9) I have taken the liberty to rearrange our Ubuntu LoCo page, making it
>> more organized, adjusted some of the grammar, added pages, it's still being
>> developed, also I've removed the old logo until the new logos have been made
>> and we vote on the new design. (Please note the old logos are available in
>> the new Artwork section of our page), and all future logos/wallpapers/CD
>> covers/designs should be placed there.
>>
>
> *I really really love it. I guess now is a good time to remove the credits
> section. I haven't seen that section in other wiki pages.*
>
>>
>> 10) If I've missed out on anything, I'll be sure to mention it, and please
>> comment on this by placing your comments in bold under each section, just so
>> it's easily read and documented.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Sam.
>>
>
>
> *I hope this answers all of your questions, and I hope this discussion
> will make our next event more organized.*
> *
> *
> *Best regards,*
> *Ahmed Toulan.*
>
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