Event thoughts.

Tue May 11 11:23:20 UTC 2010

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Mohamed Zaian

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Mohamed Zaian <Extend at tecmina.com> wrote:

> Thanks Anas but we already have a website up and running we can run drupal
> or wordpress on it instead of the Ubuntu wiki page our website is
> http://www.ubuntu-eg.com
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> Mohamed Zaian
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> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Anas Emad <anas.emad at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> thanks sam for your msg i will reply it later
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>> but by the way
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>> i create blog here
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>> http://ubuntu-eg.blogspot.com/
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>> for our team
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>> :D
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>> we can use wordpress.com
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>> but in blogger we can customize template
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>> thanks advanced , i will reply later on every point
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>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Ahmed Toulan <thelinuxer at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> Hi Sam,
>>>
>>>
>>>> In response to M Fawzy's comment "@Sam, want to know ur ideas and
>>>> thoughts about the event :) on the mailing list :)"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Personal thoughts...
>>>>
>>>> I know as a start I'll be sounding very demeaning or the very least
>>>> unappreciative, but please understand that the views I place are as neutral
>>>> as can be provided that I had expectations PRIOR to attending the event.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *It doesn't sound demeaning or anything. I personally knew, and a lot of
>>> the LoCo team members, that we will face such problems. It was a race with
>>> time. But I really think it's a little bit harsh to the volunteers
>>> especially to the organizing team in Cairo University and CECE, that's y I
>>> think I should answer every point in your email.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *A small piece of advice, don't make any expectations here in Egypt :)*
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That being said.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Since I've never attended Cairo University before, and to be honest
>>>> my expectations that it being the oldest university in the Arab world, and
>>>> the fact that Obama visited the site, hence we all know there was a lot of
>>>> refurbishing and retouching of the site.  I was expecting the building we
>>>> entered, especially the hall we were given, to be different than what I saw.
>>>>  Again I do understand now the situation we were in, it was a bit of a
>>>> surprise and shock.
>>>>
>>>> *I guess that's a personal point related to your own personal
>>> expectations. *
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2) If it wasn't for Mohamed Saudi and I think Mohamed Mahmoud who was
>>>> with him, I would have had to spend a while waiting outside the gate.  The
>>>> security would not let me enter and was not aware of the Ubuntu event.  Also
>>>> I noticed there were no posters or signs posted which I would have assumed
>>>> these things should be placed at the very least a week in advance, notice I
>>>> mean around the premises.  I am aware you placed posters elsewhere, it would
>>>> be ideal to know where they were placed for historical recording reasons so
>>>> that we can discuss their placements and what would be the best most
>>>> strategic locations to place future posters during events.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *As for the situation at the gates. They knew about the event as far as
>>> I know. I guess you were harassed at the gates because u looked too funky
>>> :D, not the kind of people they are used to see. We didn't print so much
>>> posters cause we didn't have enough money to do everything. The CECE team
>>> printed a few A3 posters as an advertisement about the event a week or so
>>> before the event.*
>>> *Actually we wanted to print a couple of banners to be placed in
>>> front of the building, but the issue was that we wanted these banners to be
>>> reusable while we weren't yet settled about the branding. Also, time and
>>> money was a gr8 issue.*
>>>
>>>
>>>> 3) Distribution Cd's/DVDs.  From the mailing list and at the day of the
>>>> event, I see that this was rushed to the point that the Cd's had to be
>>>> labelled and enveloped on the day, a couple of hours before the event
>>>> itself.  I'm curious why it was left to the last minute.  We will need to
>>>> discuss for future distribution efforts what sort of content should be
>>>> included.  E.g. I suggested earlier that we need to have
>>>> standard Ubuntu unmodified Cd's, custom preinstalled application DVDs, also
>>>> need to discuss the matter of having 64bit distributions as well, since
>>>> those who own core2+ or amd64bit+ processors will greatly benefit from 64bit
>>>> kernels PARTICULARLY for programmers/video editors/rendering projects, I can
>>>> def say I use 64bit all the time, and the difference of encoding video on
>>>> 64bit is more than half the time than using 32bit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *That's simple. I got the design for the CD face on Monday. Got the
>>> stickers printed on Wednesday. There was no time to meet and distribute the
>>> stickers among the team. Everyone had a list of tasks to finish including
>>> burning CD, making the name tags ..etc*
>>> *Although this was the case, I personally labeled half of the CDs before
>>> the event.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *I won't discuss the CD/DVD content as this is a technical issue that
>>> needs to be addressed by the whole team.*
>>>
>>>
>>>> 4) Finances.  I was curious and asked Toulan who paid for the T shirts,
>>>> I assumed it was a group effort.  When in fact he handled the expenses
>>>> himself.  I do understand each of us have our part towards participation.
>>>>  But in terms of purchases it's only fair that EVERYONE participates in
>>>> this.  If you are paying with your heart and soul, a few ginehaat would help
>>>> a long way as well :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> *The guys wanted to pay for the T-Shirts, but I refused. As I told you
>>> this was a gift to the team, and I considered it my contribution. Also,
>>> everyone paid his part in the CDs and the covers.*
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5) Statistics.  M Fawzy, I need from you: 1) complete list of the staff
>>>> that ATTENDED and their duties.  2) number of people attended.  3) number of
>>>> Cd's gave out (maybe some people took more than 1 CD?) 4) any feedback from
>>>> people who attended.  It would have been nice if there was some form of
>>>> "Feedback Form" whether on paper or online or both, so that we can tell
>>>> which sessions people found interesting, what did they think of the
>>>> instructors, so that we can also point out if any of you were slightly weak
>>>> in your presentations so we can all assist you in becoming a better teacher.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *I strongly agree that we need statistics. The CECE guys should send us
>>> the lits of attendees anytime now.*
>>>
>>>
>>>> 6) An idea.  If there will be repeat sessions, for example at EVERY
>>>> event there will be "how to install Ubuntu", "how to program in Linux" etc,
>>>> I think we should have ready made banners printed on vinyl with poles, and
>>>> posters framed etc (the details will be discussed later) just so that ANY
>>>> location we go to, we have a STANDARD setup made.  For example we can have a
>>>> container with Cd's already burned and labelled (always keep 200 for
>>>> distribution) stationary, power extension chords etc. and these containers
>>>> will have a checklist to make sure we have everything in them and stored
>>>> somewhere convenient at one of our places or storage location, so that we
>>>> have everything ready, all you need to do is get the containers, go to the
>>>> location, unpack and you're all set.  No need to bring things from your own
>>>> home and forget items etc.
>>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *I agree with the banners idea, as I said in point no. 2. But I disagree
>>> with placing session names in the banners even if they repeat.*
>>>
>>>
>>>> 7) I need to know who is willing to help in blogging.  We need to have a
>>>> collaboration of designing a loco team website and allocating people and
>>>> turn it into a group blog site, where each person has access to a tab
>>>> section and making it their personal space for blogging about Ubuntu and
>>>> personal articles that is technology/Linux related as well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *No problems from my side about this, but I think it's a little early
>>> for this. The team just came back to life. Also, most of the volunteers are
>>> students. They will be having their finals by the end of the month and I
>>> don't think they will be able to help us anytime soon. But planning won't
>>> hurt anyway, so I agree that we should look into this while expecting that
>>> it will take some time to make it live.*
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8) I currently have my gf designing logos for us.  I do like the logo
>>>> that was made for the t shirts, but I'm thinking ahead, of having something
>>>> creative and attractive that can be used to make product placement items,
>>>> mugs, t shirts, flash memory, etc.  We can have a small stall/booth with
>>>> items that we can either, sell and use the money to finance our group when
>>>> we need to buy stuff (Cd's/printing products etc) or be used as part of
>>>> prizes during small game competitions during the event such as (brain quiz
>>>> games, egg spoon race)
>>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Please please please... That's a personal request and I don't know if
>>> the team will agree or not. Whatever the design that u'll make don't make it
>>> related to the pharaohs. What I mean is, don't we have anything else to
>>> identify ourselves with ? Of course we can have customized derivatives, for
>>> special occasions. *
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 9) I have taken the liberty to rearrange our Ubuntu LoCo page, making it
>>>> more organized, adjusted some of the grammar, added pages, it's still being
>>>> developed, also I've removed the old logo until the new logos have been made
>>>> and we vote on the new design. (Please note the old logos are available in
>>>> the new Artwork section of our page), and all future logos/wallpapers/CD
>>>> covers/designs should be placed there.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *I really really love it. I guess now is a good time to remove the
>>> credits section. I haven't seen that section in other wiki pages.*
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 10) If I've missed out on anything, I'll be sure to mention it, and
>>>> please comment on this by placing your comments in bold under each section,
>>>> just so it's easily read and documented.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Sam.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *I hope this answers all of your questions, and I hope this discussion
>>> will make our next event more organized.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Best regards,*
>>> *Ahmed Toulan.*
>>>
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