Channel setup for Gutsy release

[Juan Carlos Torres]

On Wednesday 17 October 2007 3:42:13 am Lorenzo J. Lucchini wrote:
> - PROVISIONAL: keep #ubuntu+1 open, and use it for Feisty->Gutsy upgrade
> questions only, while #ubuntu should be used for "installed-system"
> questions only (see !upgrade).
> * Rationale: upgrade-related questions will make up a big part, probably
> the majority, of support questions in the week(s) to come. As with past
> releases, certain people will naturally "specialize" in upgrading problems,
> making a dedicated channel appropriate. On the other hand, "normal" support
> questions shouldn't be lost in the scroll-hell and left unanswered.

I would have to disagree with this. Using the same reason you have about 
#ubuntu-effects, When Gutsy is released, it will officially be the latest 
supported Ubuntu release, and not the ubuntu+1 release. Let's try to keep 
ubuntu+1 really just for ubuntu+1, which in this case would be Hardy.

> - PERMANENT: Keep questions strictly related to the official Desktop
> Effects, as supported on the cards it's officially supported, in #ubuntu,
> but move everything else effects-related to #ubuntu-effects.
> - PROPOSED: Close down #ubuntu-effects, and redirect its users to
> #compiz-fusion, after making the appropriate arrangement with that
> channel's operators.
> * Rationale: There is no reason to not support Desktop Effects in the main
> channel, since Gutsy makes it a first-class citizen of Ubuntu. However,
> that was achieved by selecting carefully which hardware is well-tested
> enough to enable effects by default, and we should reflect this selection
> by making it clear that if a card is not officially supported by Ubuntu,
> then we don't officially support it either, and that we offer
> #ubuntu-effects for those who want to try it anyway.
> Since #ubuntu-effects is slowly but steadily becoming silent, however, and
> since the incorporation of Desktop Effects in Ubuntu means that all
> other "effects" questions are more Compiz related (Beryl is not supposed
> anymore by anyone, basically) than Ubuntu related, phasing out the Ubuntu
> channel in favor of the dedicated Compiz Fusion channel may make sense.

I agree with gnomefreak's disagreement, and I would add one more reason:
3. Ubuntu's the only one that has the Desktop Effects and Compiz-Fusion by 
default. Kubuntu doesn't. Not sure about Xubuntu. Should we start redirecting 
Kubuntu people to #ubuntu for questions for Compiz-Fusion?

Other than those I'm good with the other points.