Channel setup for Gutsy release

[Lorenzo J. Lucchini]

On Wednesday 17 October 2007 15:54:05 Melissa Draper wrote:
>
> [snip]
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> > - PROVISIONAL: keep #ubuntu+1 open, and use it for Feisty->Gutsy upgrade
> > questions only, while #ubuntu should be used for "installed-system"
> > questions 
>
> I think the theory is correct, however chopping and changing the purpose
> of an established channel (it confuses them enough when the version of
> topic changes each release) isnt the best way to achieve it.

I thought that using #ubuntu+1 rather than a separate channel would simplify 
things, because Gutsy users are already in there, and many of them are 
usually unhappy when the channel is closed down.

But your opinion on this is echoed by other operators, too, and it must have 
merits. For me, using a different channel instead of #ubuntu+1 wouldn't 
change the substance very much.

In fact, I have registered #ubuntu-upgrading, and it is ready for use, but 
locked at the moment.
Freenode staff and Ubuntu IRC operators can join it and, if felt necessary, 
open it.
Given the disagreements, however, I urge anyone who is able to open it to ONLY 
open it with a strong support from operators and IRC council members.

> [snip]
>
> > - TEMPORARY: set +J channel mode on #ubuntu, with appropriate throttling
> > values (as tried in the past). Monitor #ubuntu-unregged constantly for
> > overflow.
>
> +1 providing it is only used during attacks, and not left on all the
> time. Release day traditionally has a lot of normal connections.

Using it only during attacks is useless. +J's purpose is to attempt to 
*prevent* attacks from happening.
However, while it's true that many people are going to join often, I assure 
you that, with reasonable settings, we should not end up blocking any 
legitimate users. While experimenting with the settings, it's imperative that 
we keep #ubuntu-unregged under a close eye for overflowers, and promply 
instruct them to retry joining #ubuntu. But this just shouldn't happen once 
good settings are found.

> [snip]
>
> > - PERMANENT: Make #ubuntu-meta the official channel for helpers to
> > among each other on (strictly) other people's question that they cannot
> > answer fully, and report on complex questions that remain unanswered.
>
> +1, but try to avoid publicising it too much or manipulative people will
> try use it to get quicker answers.

That's a common concern, from what I could see.
I want to assure everyone that I intend to make it very clear in the final 
guidelines that ONLY questions that OTHER people have asked in OTHER channels 
can be relayed to #ubuntu-meta, and that anything else would result in a ban 
from the channel. This rule should be applied strictly.

> [snip]

by LjL
ljl at ubuntu.com
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