Perhaps it would be wise to open #Ubuntu-LTS?

Jussi Kekkonen tmt at ubuntu.com
Mon May 10 20:05:21 UTC 2010


On 10 May 2010 22:50, Jason Ribeiro <jason.ribeiro at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> <joerlend.schinstad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking it might be a good idea to open #Ubuntu-LTS instead of
>> redirecting it to #Ubuntu.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Don't you think?
>
> I have to disagree with this proposal mainly because there aren't too many
> release-specific issues that pop up in #ubuntu that aren't in the release
> notes.  #ubuntu+1 deals with issues specific to using an unstable version,
> issues that are usually different than #ubuntu.  #kubuntu, #xubuntu (are
> there more?) deal with different desktop environments.  #ubuntu-server,
> again focuses on very specific tasks.  With an LTS release however, what
> sort of issues come up to warrant a channel separate from #ubuntu?  I'm sure
> I could name a handful, but not much more.
>
> But there are other reasons too.
>
> Creating a #ubuntu-lts channel and shuffling LTS users there splits the
> users providing support into two channels.  This makes it harder to get
> support, unless the user asks in both channels which defeats the purpose of
> the channel.
>
> On top of that, it will create more non-support chatter in #ubuntu due to
> all of the "forwarding traffic" like #ubuntu+1 already does.
>
> I think that if an LTS user simply announces he is using an LTS release in
> #ubuntu it accomplishes what #ubuntu-lts hopes to accomplish, namely having
> other LTS users to talk to.
>
> That's my two cents.  In the end, I don't think LTS is different enough from
> the other supported releases to really benefit from a separate channel.
> However, a lot of people seem to be supporting the idea, so I wouldn't
> object to a trial period of a week or two to see how things work out.
>
> jrib
>

Have to agree with jrib, I don't think "splitting" #ubuntu to -lts
would solve anything, what I actually would recommend, the people who
want to help more efficiently in #ubuntu and #kubuntu, whether it's
LTS or whatever, please use our great #ubuntu-meta channel.

#ubuntu-meta provides asked (and unanswered) questions nicely without
extra noise, in easily parseable form, and really is underused at this
point. I would love to see more irc support helpers using that,
instead of asking yet another channel.

-- 
Jussi Kekkonen, Tm_T
Ubuntu/KDE developer  tmt at ubuntu.com




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