Ubuntu ops Co-ordination channel

[Jussi Kekkonen]

On 24 February 2011 15:07, Jussi Schultink <jussi01 at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This morning in #ubuntu-ops we had a discussion about saying things
> which may be responses to baiting, or may actually bait the trolls
> themselves. Given that we are seeing an increase in trolls making
> complaints about operators pushing them to the limit by what has been
> said in #ubuntu-ops, and trolls reading #ubuntu-ops backlog just to
> see if they get a response to their trolling, I would like to again
> propose a co-ordination channel for the purpose of these discussions.
>
> This channel would be for all those who are +v'd in #ubuntu-ops, as
> well as relevent others as decided by the Ubuntu IRC Council. (this
> would make it possible to have ops from large loco channels and other
> channels with frequent problems included).
> It would need to be a CoC compliant channel (as per all Ubuntu IRC
> Channels) and would be privately logged for IRCC and CC viewing, in
> the case of dispute or accusation of impropriety. The channel would
> make it easier for channel operators to be prepared in-case of an
> attack or channel hopping troll.
>
> I hope all of this makes sense and I would really appreciate your
> thoughts on this. I am CC'ing the Community Council into this
> discussion, as it may be helpful to have their input here also.
>
> Best regards
>
> Jussi Schultink
>

Some of my thoughts on this:

Transparency is everything on community, so if there's any way to
avoid a closed channel, we should take that. In the current situation
this is not possible, atleast I cannot see how. So, I support the
existence of this channel as long as it's used only for the exact
purpose it is created: to coordinate our efforts against abusive users
when we cannot do it publicly.

I have noticed that I'm not overly concerned about the possible abuse
from the users towards myself, propably because I'm well too used to
it. And this is something what we, Ubuntu community have to fight
against: No one should get used to be abused in our channels or in
anywhere.  That simply is not acceptable, there's no excuses for that.

And the "if you cannot take it, step back" can be used only to a
certain point: we must be able to keep the channels in their purpose
and useful, unfortunately some of us have sacrificed part of their
health for that.

For all you "log readers": yes, ops are meant to show a good example,
but their (ours) mistakes aren't something that gives you any kind of
excuse to act abusively. Or as I often say: There's no excuse for bad
behaviour.

This become a very different post that I originally intended, sorry
for all inconsistency and forgotten points and thoughts.

Free hugs in the ops channel(s) (;

-- 
Jussi Kekkonen, Tm_T
  Ubuntu/KDE developer  tmt at ubuntu.com