The Floodbots
Charles Profitt
indigo196 at rochester.rr.com
Thu Feb 6 13:14:19 UTC 2014
Alan:
Thanks for the summary.
---- Alan Bell <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
> this email is to give you all a summary of the situation with the
> floodbots, a bit of background, and our current strategy to address the
> situation. Further discussion and comments are welcomed here or on IRC
> in #ubuntu-irc or #ubuntu-ops-team
>
>
> What happened
> ==========
> The floodbots have been withdrawn from service, as of February 3rd 2014,
> they are not coming back.
>
> What the floodbots do
> ==============
> The most visible function of the floodbots is to impose a quiet on
> people who accidentally paste multiple lines of text into the channel.
> This often happens when someone intends to share part of a log file with
> the channel and does not realise that this is propagated a line at a
> time to the thousands of users we have in the channel, disrupting other
> conversations and generally causing confusion.
> As well as accidental pasting there is intentional pasting of spam and
> links by attention seeking individuals and automated bot attacks, the
> bots have information on bans and heuristics to detect names and hosts
> that are likely to be hostile.
> The floodbots have extensive facilities for responding to ddos type
> situations, sometimes putting the channel into an emergency mode for
> just registered users, there is then a process in the #ubuntu-unregged
> channel where captchas are presented to users and the humans are allowed
> back into the main channel.
> The bots will detect emergency situations, such as mass joins and can
> distinguish between ddos attacks and technical issues in the network
> There are several floodbots normally active, they talk to each other to
> detect network latency and netsplits and to update their own code
>
> Overall, the floodbots help us to regulate abuse of the IRC channels,
> but for perspective, this is just bytes on a wire. There is no actual
> harm or cost caused by someone pasting an excessive amount of lines in
> an IRC channel.
>
> We have not recently seen attacks and/or abuse at the scale of what was
> happening at the time the floodbots were written. This might be because
> the floodbots are protecting us from it so well or we are less of a
> target than we were, or something else.
>
> The options
> =======
>
> 1) we can do nothing, and not have these features
> - not ideal, would be extra workload and/or a worse experience for
> people in the larger channels, but this is basically what we have been
> doing since they were turned off and the world has not ended.
>
> 2) we can get a different accidental paste protection plugin for ubottu
> or another bot and have just that feature
> - these exist and could be used without much fuss, that would
> provide the most visible bit of floodbot functionality
>
> 3) we can rewrite more of the floodbot functionality into ubottu or
> something else, aiming for feature parity at some point
> - this could take some time, it seems unlikely that we would get as
> far as the existing floodbots do
>
> 4) we can move to +r+z in the large channels and make a bot to help
> users to register on the network to talk, people would join read-only
> and have to register to talk, like most websites.
> - this could be done, it would be a massive simplification of the
> problem; however it has significant disadvantages in terms of the end
> user experience for people new to IRC.
>
> 5) we can try to resolve whatever issue was the motivation for shutting
> the floodbots down
> - We don't want anyone to feel bad about their contributions to the
> Ubuntu project, but this might be hard to fix. If we could then that
> would be great, but we should not sustain a situation where we do not
> have the freedom to use, inspect, modify and share the software that we
> are using. We don't put up with that for any other software, even
> freedom zero is provided by most proprietary software and today that is
> what has gone from the floodbots.
>
> and finally, for completeness
>
> 6) we can bring the existing floodbot code back on line with new
> freeserve account information as it has GPL v2 boilerplate headers
> - this isn't a good option, LJL has asserted that he didn't intend
> to distribute it under that license. Arguing that point is unlikely to
> lead to any kind of happy outcome, we are not going to do it.
>
> What we plan to do
> ============
>
> Right now we are at option one, the do nothing option. We are working on
> option 2 to bring online some paste prevention, and have it available as
> soon as possible. For the last two days we have been running without the
> floodbots and we have had some impact on the channels, which was
> manually responded to. We could set the channel(s) to +r+z should there
> be unusual activity, returning to the normal state of affairs ASAP.
>
> If there is a perceived view that this is not sufficient, then we will
> consider a more complete flood protection via #3 but we do not intend to
> reuse the current floodbot's codebase. In other words, we do not see #6
> as being an option; and -- at least right now -- cannot see option 5,
> redeploying the existing floodbots, without a Free Software codebase as
> a viable option.
>
>
>
> AlanBell, on behalf of The IRC Council
>
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