[Ubuntu-l10n-eng] Wastebasket/Deleted Items

[Toby Smithe]

On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 14:50 +0100, Dan Bishop wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 12:31 +0100, Ben Goodger wrote:
> > On 29/08/06, Toby Smithe <toby.smithe at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 08:30 +0100, Dan Bishop wrote:
> >         > On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 08:26 +0100, Toby Smithe wrote:
> >         > > On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 15:52 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan
> >         wrote:
> >         > > > On Tuesday 29 August 2006 15:42, William Anderson <
> >         neuro at well.com> wrote:
> >         > > > > Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> >         > > > > > [snip]
> >         > > > > >
> >         > > > > > The GNOME and KDE teams have agreed on some
> >         conventions regarding the 
> >         > > > > > "Trash" moniker:
> >         > > > > >
> >         > > > > > " Trash should be translated to Wastebin when
> >         referring to the
> >         > > > > > desktop/file manager. Other situations can use
> >         either 'Wastebin' or 
> >         > > > > > 'Deleted Items' as seems most appropriate (KMail
> >         uses Deleted Items).
> >         > > > > > Beware of Trash being used as a verb which should be
> >         translated as 'Move
> >         > > > > > to Wastebin'. " 
> >         > > > > >
> >         > > > > > Their respective home pages are at:
> >         > > > > >   http://live.gnome.org/BritishEnglish
> >         > > > > >   http://kde.me.uk/index.php?page=kde-en-gb
> >         > > > >
> >         > > > > You've quoted the KDE version; the GNOME page states
> >         "Wastebasket", not 
> >         > > > > "Wastebin".  Can we influence these upstreams in any
> >         way about our Deleted
> >         > > > > Items thinking?  I can certainly ping Jonathan Riddell
> >         and see what he
> >         > > > > thinks. 
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Whoops! Thanks for pointing that out. On a quick glance,
> >         the paragraphs looked
> >         > > > identical. I didn't notice the Wastebin/Wastebasket
> >         distinction.
> >         > > >
> >         > > > I definitely would like to move such a change upstream.
> >         I don't see any point 
> >         > > > in GNOME and KDE using different names for the same
> >         thing.
> >         > >
> >         > > Also I think that this would be good for consistency. Even
> >         in different
> >         > > DEs, I believe that the term should be the same. 
> >         >
> >         > I agree, but does anyone really say wastebasket or wastebin?
> >         I know I
> >         > don't. I'd always say simply bin.
> >         
> >         I usually say plainly bin; however, I do sometimes say "waste
> >         paper
> >         basket", but I'd agree with anyone pointing out that that's a
> >         bit of a 
> >         mouthful to have on the desktop.
> > 
> > The problem is that "bin" sounds utterly crap for a computer. As
> > mentioned before by me, ~/.Trash is no longer much like a bin.

Agreed.

> Hmm, true, it does. Perhaps it should just always be deleted items
> folder. To me wastebin/basket sounds equally rubbish for a computer and
> while it sounds less american than trash, it doesn't really sound any
> more natural since people don't really say it in general speech.

This is where I stand, exactly.
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