[ubuntu-mythtv] i386 EOL plans for Mythbuntu?

Thomas Mashos thomas at mashos.com
Sat Aug 13 00:11:32 UTC 2016


Bryan,

Ok I've looked through the stats and I think we should block the i386
packages as you suggested. What do we need to do that?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016, 12:40 PM Bryan Quigley <bryan.quigley at canonical.com>
wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> > We already don't ship ISOs for non-LTS releases, so I see this as 2
> > questions.
> >
> > 1) Whether we want to have an 32-bit ISO for 18.04
> > 2) What to do regarding packages for 16.10.
> >
> > Regarding #2, I'd like to wait and see what Ubuntu does for 16.10. I'd
> also
> > like to check if the MythTV smolt data contains information on if the
> CPUs
> > have 64-bit support.
>
> Smolt seems super useful, but it appears to be discontinued, so I'm
> guessing they won't be adding a feature to check for lm (and some
> users might have i386 BIOSes).
> For future reference, the results at
> http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/stats.html today are -
> x86_64 - 4808 - 82.9 %
> i686 -969 -16.7 %
>
> Ubuntu is 88% of the total in underlying OS (20% 16.04, 67% 14.04).
>
> > For #1, the answer may be a little easier. I'm leaning toward dropping
> ISOs
> > completely pending my move to snap packaging. I've thought the concept of
> > snaps made the most sense for MythTV since they came about a few years
> ago.
> > Ideally, I'd like to be able to say "install snappy core, then install
> the
> > mythtv snap" although I understand it won't be quite that simple.
>
> Very cool idea, looking forward to seeing it :).  MythTV does seem
> like a great fit into the Snappy story.
>
> Kind regards,
> Bryan
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:47 AM Bryan Quigley <
> bryan.quigley at canonical.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Mythbuntu team,
> >>
> >> From the thread on Ubuntu-devel/discuss [1] I'm going to start
> >> conversations with each flavor on what their plans are for i386 in the
> >> 18.04 timeframe.
> >>
> >> The general ideas are either:
> >> *Start Dropping i386 for Mythbuntu now*
> >> A. Drop Mythbuntu i386 ISO for 16.10
> >> B. In addition to A, also block upgrades by dropping packages from
> >> i386 archive (say mythtv).
> >>
> >> Some Pros:  Halves the test cases you need to go through.   Reduces
> >> bandwidth usage and makes it more obvious for new users what to
> >> download.  (Read other thread for some others)
> >>
> >> *Wait until after 18.04 and then reconsider dropping i386*
> >>
> >> Pros:  Maintain older hardware running Mythbuntu for another 2+
> >> years (up from 3 years).
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >> Bryan
> >>
> >> * You could consider any packages that are 100% specific to the
> >> Mythbuntu flavor.
> >>
> >> [1]
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html
> >>
> >> i386 - To be clear I mean any 32-bit x86 platform (usually
> AMD/Intel/VIA).
> >>
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