[Ubuntu-PH] Microsoft's Patent against FOSS

[Jopes]

I'm sorry if I really feel it's OK to discuss it here. I might be violating
"mailing list rules" because of this post. Anyway, I'm sorry but can I ask
if there were any rules? Does any of you really feel it's bad to discuss
this "nonsense" here?

Anyway, just going back to the topic. The reason why we **really** need to
discuss it here instead of Slashdot and other "big" sites is because we need
to discuss it with the **local scene** in mind. Mr. Allan from Davao asked
how will it affect our use of FOSS here in the Philippines.

Anyway. I'm really sorry if I went political. It's just **my preference** to
discuss political aspects of FOSS which, **in my idea**, is essential in
advocating its use. Please kick me off the mailing list if I really sound
"inappropriate".

On 5/17/07, Dean Michael Berris <mikhailberis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/17/07, Jopes <jofellxcite at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sorry. I just don't get this. I don't think we're a technical-only
> group.
> > Besides, someone asked about patents, and we should help him or we will
> end
> > up letting him be in the dark (and buy Vista) because nobody wants to
> > respond to him.
> >
>
> What's wrong with buying Vista if you can afford it?
>
> If you really want to learn about patents, you go to:
>
> http://www.uspto.gov/
> http://www.google.com/patents
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
>
> As to what the MS Patent issue brings, you hop on over to digg.com or
> slashdot.org and take part in the debate/discussion/whatnot there.
>
> Discussing patents in an Ubuntu mailing list just feels wrong.
> Speculating on patents when you're not a lawyer is just... Oh I don't
> know... Wrong?
>
> > As for contributing to open source projects, I've learned back in
> college
> > that with the current competition in the software, code and bug reports
> is
> > not enough to ensure the success of FOSS. We have to counter FUDs like
> the
> > one we saw this weekend. This is yet the biggest we've seen in the
> entire
> > FOSS history and we can't afford to just let it pass by without a fight.
> >
>
> So it's FUD, do we need to bite?
>
> I never thought FOSS was about competition in software... I always
> thought FOSS was about writing software which you let others use.
> Didn't come across as competition to me.
>
> > And surely, FOSS people should know that FOSS isn't only software (or
> > technical stuff), it's also political, social, and ethical stuff (reason
> we
> > have the GPL).
> >
>
> FOSS is software whether you like it or not. Without software that is
> free and open source, how do you call it Free/Open Source Software?
>
> And IMO, the GPL is broken. The Free Software Movement is the social
> commentary of Richard Stallman. The Open Source Movement is about open
> source software. Depending on your religion about it, it all boils
> down to software.
>
> Whether you like it or not, software is at the heart of The Free
> Software Movement and the Open Source Movement.
>
> So can we go back to writing FOSS and stop with this political nonesense?
>
> Thank you.
>
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