[Ubuntu-PH] First Ubuntu Hour

Sat Jun 9 09:42:25 UTC 2012

Efren, Im not sure which is easy if we translate first the desktop
before the Ubuntu Help of the Ubuntu help first then the desktop.

If we translate first the desktop, we can refer the desktop
translation when translating the Ubuntu help.

What do you think about this

We can translate one feature/component a day. Kahit usad pagong tayo
may progress din kasi ang pagong matagal mamatay. hehe

1. So the reviewers can hold the English master files (the ones in
launchpad) and post them which need translations.
2, Then everybody will translate to their language (Tagalog, Cebuano,
etc) based from the English master file. Then we will compare each
others language translations
3. Then the reviewers will review the translation contributions and
put them on the language translation master files.

On 6/9/12, claive alvin Acedilla <cabpacedilla at gmail.com> wrote:
> Efren, unahin natin ang Ubuntu help kasi yun ang documentation ng Ubuntu.
> Tapos ito yung suggestion ko sa workflow ng translation:
> 1. Di ba  may iba-ibang language ang Philippine translation (Bikol,
> Cebuano, Filipino, Hiligaynon, Iloko, Pampangan, Pangasinan, Tagalog,
> Waray), so dapat may tig-iisang master file or something ng Ubuntu Help
> file ang bawat language. Kung gusto pang dagdagan ang Philippine language,
> dagdagan pa para may representative sa bawat language sa Pilipinas.
> 2. Dapat may mga representatives na mag translate sa bawat language: Bikol,
> Cebuano, Filipino, Hiligaynon, Iloko, Pampangan, Pangasinan, Tagalog,
> Waray, etc
> 3. Tapos sabay-sabay tayong mag-translate at mag-compare ng ating mga
> translations para iisa ang thought ng ating mga translations . Kasi ang
> translation ang pagsalin kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng isa. Kahit sino
> pwedeng mag contribute ng kani-kanilang mga translations.
> 4. Tapos titingnan ngayon ng mga reviews ang translation contributions.
> 5. Tapos i-upload ng mga reviewers magustohan nila na translation
> contribution sa master file.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:40 AM, claive alvin Acedilla <
> cabpacedilla at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No problem Efren,
>>
>> I- layout nating ang process ng pag-join.
>> I-layout nating ang process ng pag-translate.
>> I-layout natin ang process of ng translation workflow.te
>> Pag na layout yung process ng translation workflow, malalaman na ng mga
>> team members kung ano ang mga function ng mga roles sa translation
>> workflow.
>> Malaman na ng team members ang step-by-step ng translation workflow.
>> Kahit sino pwedeng mag-translate, mag-review, etc.
>> Kung gusto nila na isang role lang ang gaganapin nila, ok lang din.
>> Basta purpose natin is isalin natin para maintindihan sa ating salita.
>> Mas maganda rin pag isalin ginagamit ang mga "conversational" or
>> "everyday" words para mas madali intindihan.
>> Yes, lets focus sa Ubuntu desktop base installation
>> So i-lista na rin natin kung ano ang mga features at bundled apps ang
>> i-translate (like Applications Menu, System Menu, Preferences Menu,
>> Ubuntu
>> Help, etc )
>> Sabay-sabay tayo magtrabaho at magtulungan sa mailing list, forum, irc,
>> facebook, google+, etc . Gawin nating workspace and mailing list, forum,
>> irc, facebook, google+, etc
>> Sa Filipino na lang siguro ako kasi nag represent na sa lahat nga
>> languages sa Pilipinas kasama na ang Tagalog.
>> To all, please help kung ano ang magagandang mga proceso para
>> ma-translate
>> ang Ubuntu at magamit ang Ubuntu sa lahat ng Pilipino gaya ng
>> pag-campaign.
>> Yung mga stickers ay magandang paraan din sa pag campaign.
>> Efren, I hope the first Ubuntu hour will go well.
>> So to all Ubuntu users in the Philippines, please help in brain storming
>> sa first Ubuntu hour at sa susunod ng mga araw
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Efren D. Montales Jr. <
>> kidsodateless at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> @Claive, Nice to meet you and your big effort to get the translation
>>> project back.
>>> yup i believe localization is really a big task so we really need to
>>> work
>>> harder like the 300 warriors of spartans. We don't need to translate all
>>> apps, what's important are the OS, and Default apps. dun muna tayo
>>> magfocus. :)
>>>
>>> But before we get started
>>> let's make our own documentation first as our short term goal, feel free
>>> to add:
>>>
>>> 1.How to get started? how to join the team?
>>> 2.How and who will approve the suggested translation?
>>> 3.Who will review the suggested translation? (kailangan pa ba nating
>>> kumunsulta sa surián ng Wikáng Pambansâ (National Language Institute)?
>>> 4.Tagalog or Filipino? alin ba sa dalawa ang dapat nating gamitin? i
>>> believe we must decide to choose one para mas madali nating matapos ang
>>> localization(kung Tagalog bakit? at kung Filipino Bakit?).
>>> 5.
>>> 6.
>>> 7.
>>> 8.
>>> 9.
>>> 10.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> @rick bahague, sa labas lang ng starbucks, ako nalang palatandaan hehe,
>>> long hair nakalaptop ako ng may malaking sticker ng mozilla firefox, may
>>> sticker din ng ubuntu local team philippines
>>>
>>> @rickhard wyrd, hanging out on G+? sounds good.. we can do it as our
>>> online event next time
>>>
>>> @Erwin Olario, Thanks for the info, sorry pero late na masyado para
>>> magchange pa ng event's venue sa fb, nagpost din ako sa fb group e. next
>>> time nalang
>>>
>>> @Zak, can you bring some press CDs kung meron pa? :D
>>>
>>> @John Crisostomo, pumunta na kayo kahit walang sticker hehe
>>>
>>> @Jean, thank you! nakapagcreate ka na pala, kakagawa ko lang ngayon,
>>> idedete ko na :)
>>>
>>> On Friday, 08 June, 2012 11:30 PM,
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>>>> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 20:27:52 +0800
>>>> From: Erwin Olario<govvin at gmail.com>
>>>> To: feleciano
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>>>> So are we agreed on the venue: Figaro @ Gateway Mall, Cubao, QC,
>>>> Saturday,
>>>> 1700-1900 PST
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, June 8, 2012, feleciano buenavista wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Meron bang stickers? Pahingi dikit ko sa kotse at sa 2 Ubuntu server
>>>>> dito
>>>>> sa opis.
>>>>>
>>>>>   ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* John
>>>>> Crisostomo<jdcrisostomo at gmail.**com<jdcrisostomo at gmail.com>
>>>>> <javascript:_e({},
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>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2012 4:35 PM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubuntu-PH] First Ubuntu Hour
>>>>>
>>>>> Sana may magdala ng mga stickers :D
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:46 PM, hard wyrd<hardwyrd at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sa mga malalayo, meron bang G+ Hangout or something similar ? :) Yun
>>>>> eh
>>>>> kung ok lang..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM, rick<rbahaguejr at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Punta ako. Just have a sign somewhere para madali mahanap.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:49 PM, claive alvin Acedilla<
>>>>> cabpacedilla at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a very good start Efren!
>>>>> The first Ubuntu hour for Ubuntu Philippines.
>>>>> I hope many can attend.
>>>>> Too bad im an OFW. But no worries so let us campaign more so that more
>>>>> will join and more will help the translation.
>>>>> We also need to campaign from Radio Stations and Television because
>>>>> Radio
>>>>> and Television are more accessible to people and basic communication
>>>>> channels where people can get information.
>>>>> So let us go to the Radio stations and Television station to campaign.
>>>>> I think campaigning in Radio Stations is free and there is a
>>>>> Government
>>>>> TV
>>>>> channel and maybe it is free also.
>>>>> We need also to campaign in the Government and Private businesses
>>>>> Maybe we can at schools because schools are connected to the
>>>>> Government
>>>>> and the Government will know about Linux and Private businesses will
>>>>> follow.
>>>>> We will go to schools by posting campaigns their bulletin boards and
>>>>> convince people that you will not keep reinstalling your operating
>>>>> system
>>>>> if you install Linux because your operating system will be bogged down
>>>>> by
>>>>> viruses like Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linus Trovalds asked for help in the internet for his operating system
>>>>> hobby project before.
>>>>> Look at Linux now.
>>>>> Linux is "bayanihan" where everybody will just help. Maybe Linus
>>>>> Trovalds
>>>>> is Filipino because he knows what is bayanihan.
>>>>> So there is no harm to ask help.
>>>>> Let us work together in the mailing list, forum, irc, meetings (like
>>>>> the
>>>>> incoming Ubuntu hour on Saturday, 09 of June, 2012 at 17:00-19:00, i
>>>>> hope
>>>>> many can attend)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know that Google use Ubuntu.
>>>>> Here is what Eduardo Bergavera edbergavera at gmail.co posted on his
>>>>> Google+
>>>>> page:
>>>>> http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/**2012/05/how-google-developers-**
>>>>> use-ubuntu.html?m=1<http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/05/how-google-developers-use-ubuntu.html?m=1>
>>>>>
>>>>> Efren, if translating the Ubuntu base installation is a bigger task,
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> we can make our own distro listing only the neccessary software that
>>>>> the
>>>>> Filipinos need and remove some features on the Ubuntu base
>>>>> installation
>>>>> that is not needed by the Filipino so that we will translate only the
>>>>> apps
>>>>> that are most used by Filipinos like web browser, chatting software
>>>>> and
>>>>> word processing. For games, most Filipinos are playing online games
>>>>> using
>>>>> the web browser. This is just an idea to minimize the task in
>>>>> minimizing
>>>>> the translation task of the Ubuntu base installation. Like Google
>>>>> above
>>>>> from the link, the made their own distro by removing some features on
>>>>> the
>>>>> base installation. We also try supporting the LTS version so that the
>>>>> distro is more stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Efren, I hope the Ubuntu hour will be successful and all will enjoy
>>>>> the
>>>>> meeting with food and drinks (juice and little beer :))
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers from me with a San Miguel beer on my hand!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers to all Ubuntu users in the Philippines and all open source
>>>>> software
>>>>> users in the Philippines!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Zak Elep<zakame at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Erwin Olario<govvin at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not at Figaro, instead? Not only are they a Filipino company,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>
>>>>> also
>>>>>
>>>>>> source their coffee from local farmers. There's one in Gateway mall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would love to network with you guys.
>>>>>>
>>>>> +1 on Figaro, my favorite coffee shop. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I might be in the area on that day as I hav
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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