connecting power users to their tools

[Robert Potter]

both of your points make sense.  I do like that thought of a single apt-get
command that would install a key tool set.  Would be much easier than
entering install command after install command.

-Rob


On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Paul Hoell <hoellp at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think install-time download of the power tools could be done further down
> the road.
> There are some steps that need to be done before that, and we shouldn't
> rush into this. For now it's necessary to get the tools to a place we can
> work with function-wise. As long as they're not thoroughly tested and prove
> to be stable, i think installing them at install time might be a tad
> overpowering for most users.
> We talk about power-users here, so installing via meta-package oder just a
> simple apt-get line for now should really be enough. It would also make it
> much less likely that an inexperienced user stumbles onto them, when they're
> still in a state where there is no easy way to revert changes and little to
> no safeguards to what you can do to your system.
>
> To collect my thoughts, i think an integration with the installer shouldn't
> be done before next LTS+1, so there is time to refine the tools and get a
> suggested workflow in order.
>
> greets
> Paul
> <-
>
>
>
> 2011/5/21 Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug at gmail.com>
>
>> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Robert Potter <rpotter at zoncko.com>
>> wrote:
>> > It will be nice if power users have a trusted location to look up and
>> find
>> > tools that assist them.  But they still will have to invest the time to
>> find
>> > and install those tools.
>> > Ubuntu currently offers the option to install multi-media package during
>> > install and with an internet connection downloads updates in the back
>> > ground.  The server edition allows the user to select packages to be
>> > installed during installation.  So, as we identify key tools such as
>> Ubuntu
>> > Tweak, perhaps Canonical could offer a back ground download/install
>> option
>> > for a few of these key tools.  For those of us that just want our system
>> to
>> > work but still would like the power & tools to tweak, I think it would
>> be
>> > nice to simply request the tools during install.
>> > Not sure how practical or desired it is by others, but just a thought I
>> had.
>>
>> Nice thought, but then there might be other groups of users who would
>> like to have a "gamer" option and so on. I do not think that this is a
>> feasible approach without opening a can of worms.
>>
>> I would rather suggest to create a meta package, which then installs
>> these tools - power users should not have a problem with typing
>>
>> sudo apt-get install power-user-tools
>>
>> which then would download and install a suite of selected packages.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>> > -Rob
>> > --
>> > Ubuntu-power-users mailing list
>> > Ubuntu-power-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-power-users
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation
>> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
>>
>> Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
>> Stellenbosch University
>> South Africa
>>
>> Tel :       +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
>> Cell:       +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
>> Fax (F):       +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44
>>
>> Fax (D):    +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44
>>
>> email:      Rainer at krugs.de
>>
>> Skype:      RMkrug
>>
>> --
>> Ubuntu-power-users mailing list
>> Ubuntu-power-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-power-users
>>
>
>
> --
> Ubuntu-power-users mailing list
> Ubuntu-power-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-power-users
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-power-users/attachments/20110521/51578910/attachment.html>