Is this mailing list defunct?

Fri Oct 7 10:17:17 UTC 2011

I consider gnome-tweak-tool as an easy way to change the theme, icon set and fonts, however I miss the old appearance tool. Also we lost the gui for several settings, like shared folder user permissions, and advanced user permission settings. Am I the only one missing these? I could successfully compile gnome-system-tools for the latter, but it's still 3.0 and seems like the development has been stopped. The appearance tool is a bit more complicated, i couldn't do it yet. These should be included in ubuntu like it used to be in my opinion. 

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Subject: Re: Is this mailing list defunct?
From: Miguel Branco <mig.jcb at gmail.com>
To: Daniel Hollocher <danielhollocher at gmail.com>
CC: ubuntu-power-users at lists.ubuntu.com

I assumed that power user in this scenario was anyone who didn't actually use the defaults, making an effort to learn and configure their system to their liking.
However, I feel that the terminology 'power-user' is somewhat inappropriate now. Come Oneiric, we don't even have an easy way to configure the font size, let alone icon set.

That's why I think Ubuntu needs a tool like this more than ever. I give a lot of credit to TualatriX's effort, but I find it limiting to just be able to mess with gconf keys. We need to edit configuration files as well, and probably be able to run small pieces of code that interpret those files and change them automatically.

Again, I propose we write a list of things we would like to customize, so we can build a tool / plugin for a tool / support in Ubuntu Tweak to change those settings easily. These settings should cover Oneiric's needs, so don't leave anything out just because Natty had a GUI for it.

Personally, out the top of my head, I'd like:

Appearance settings (font style and size, iconset, theme (already included in Oneiric))
Grub appearance, usual settings (low priority, tools exist)
Power Saving actions (low priority for now, I guess)

I'll remember more eventually as I'm configuring Oneiric, I'll write them down somewhere later.

Miguel Branco 

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 01:33, Daniel Hollocher <danielhollocher at gmail.com> wrote:

Hey folks,
So, there is obviously some complaining.  I think that shows there is passion and some sort of energy out there.  I think what is missing is some sort of leadership. 

I think any direction taken is going to require effort, and it is hard to tell whether a complaint is an expression of frustration about not being able to help, or that complaint is the sum total of the effort that person wants to put in.  IMHO, it's that ambiguity that would make it hard to bring in leadership to this current situation.  

For myself, I would have liked to see (and would have liked to help discuss) a better definition of "power user."  I think the term is vague, and the original discussions were vague in the same way.  It seemed like a power user was just someone who knew about some mysterious configuration option, and that is what made them a power user, just that knowing.  So Ubuntu Tweak solved everything in that regard, by giving the option an easy interface.

I wanted to see focus on different types of power users, like a multi-tasking-unity power user; a user would who is adept at getting things done quickly on the unity shell.  And maybe a look-and-feel power user; someone who knows how to customize the graphics of every part of ubuntu from grub to the splash screen to the desktop icons.  And there are other "power users" that deserve attention, wiki pages, GUIs, whatever.

2c,
Dan

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