Unusability of bluetooth is one of the worst plagues in Ubuntu

[Gabor Toth]

Hello Guys!

I was following up the "interesting" conversation about bluetooth
compatibility with Ubuntu.  May I throw in some of my thoughts here? 
Thanks.  :)

I can see the point that is being made by Matteo and certainly hardware
that is not usable with Ubuntu is a major problem as of getting Ubuntu
widely used.

I would question though if bluetooth would be the most major issue.  I
personally did not have much problem with that for what I was using it
for - sending music over to a bluetooth device.  Worked with a few click
no manual setting or scripting at all.  I can see that this was not the
issue for you Matteo so of course I can be wrong and it is perhaps very
important issue for many people.

If I might throw in a suggestion to solve this matter:  there could
possible be done a survey for people that are using Ubuntu or trying to
use it and see what is the issue - hardware or otherwise - that comes up
the most.  Getting it answered by a number of people - pro's and and
amateurs alike - we could get a clear picture of what actually is the
major issue and perhaps resources could be directed towards that.

I do not think Matteo that you would be an "####hole" even though I do
not know you so I might be wrong again.  :P

And yes, absolutely no swearing on these lists so calm the f****ck
down!  (Sorry.  LOL   Couldn't miss that.)

Ml,

Gabor


On 12/26/2013 06:33 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
> On 26/12/13 18:07, Thomas Ward wrote:
>> Um... lemme comment in a few things I see wrong in your email.
>>
>> Firstly, bug importance isn't "set" based on yours or mine's opinion
>> only, there's certain things that importance is influenced by.
>> (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance).
>
> Yes, and importance "low" for such an issue is wrong based on those
> criteria, not on my or your opinion.
> (So this wasn't something wrong in my email, but that doesn't matter)
>
> > Secondly, the compatability of Bluetooth cards and transceivers with
> > the kernel is an issue.  We have the same problem with some
> > wifi cards and even sound cards.  Ultimately if there are no Linux
> > drivers for a certain Bluetooth card then either drivers need to be
> > written or the manufacturer has to have Linux drivers made for that.
>
> Ok, I don't see how that's something wrong in my email, but that's
> interesting. So, writing drivers for bluetooth cards (if that is the
> cause of the many issues with bluetooth) is one of the places where
> effort should be concentrated in order to make Ubuntu quality better.
>
>
>> Thirdly, your attitude of "anger" at this issue, Matteo, by swearing
>> and such in your message,
>
> Where did I swear in my message? Oh yes, sorry, "shitty operating
> systems like Windows", that was the only one. Sorry about that. Note
> that wasn't about anyting related to ubuntu, however.
>
> > gets us nowhere.
>
> I don't expect my anger to get anybody anywhere but I was trying to
> give a suggestion. IIUC, The QA list is meant to discuss what actions
> could be taken to improve Ubuntu quality, right? Among which, which
> categories of bugs may need serious attention.
> So here's the point I was trying to make: there are a pretty huge
> bunch of bugs related to bluetooth that are degrading the Ubuntu
> experience a lot, are even getting worse over time, and are not
> getting the attention they deserve (which is demonstrated by the fact
> most of them don't even the importance decided, let alone correctly or
> not).
>
> So that's a problem to take into consideration, just in case it wasn't
> already, and whether or not the person pointing it out (me) is an
> ####hole shouldn't matter a lot.
>
>
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