I have realised something about people not reporting bugs

[Thomas Ward]

Permit me to add my two cents.

Not all of us are comfortable running the latest devel release on our own computers (bare metal) because it would interfere with other things we need.  It's why some of us use VMs for testing.

Hardware testing would be irrelevant on my systems anyways - they are built with Linux compatible and certified to work hardware that hasn't seen regressions on those hardware pieces in an age.  Many of us also only may have one system we use which means we aren't going to be able to test bare-metal without risking our own important stuff (read, for my context: SSH and PGP keys needed for uploading to the repositories).  Because we don't have many hardware pieces to test with we test with VMs.

Now, if Canonical gave me $3000 to invest in different types of hardware I'd have the infrastructure to baremetal test because my primary machine would be left alone; failing that however, you are left with VM testing.

TL;DR for those of you with short attention spans: To force bare metal tests you have to have the hardware to support testing beyond on one's (often only) machines.  Without the money for that extra hardware, you can't solve the problem of bare metal testing.

My two cents.  :)


Thomas



*Sent from my iPhone.  Please excuse any typos, as they are likely to happen by accident.*

> On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:05, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Den 2017-04-30 kl. 12:36, skrev Alberto Salvia Novella:
>> I have realised something, which is that most painful bugs on new Ubuntu
>> releases are hardware related. And that is probably caused by people
>> testing releases on virtual machines, instead on real hardware.
>> 
>> Graphics, wifi and UEFI are the most common sources of people not
>> upgrading to new releases. Perhaps we shall encourage more bare metal
>> testing, doing it with generous advance to release, and leaving
>> visualization only for the development of applications.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> I agree (and I have been testing on bare metal for years).
> 
> Best regards
> Nio
> 
> 
> 
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