Beta 1

[Steve Langasek]

On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 11:12:11PM +0100, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Hi,

> I'd like to register that while my self and Laney have not seen eye tio
> eye, his attempt of building the Beta 1's for our community teams has been
> a complete and utter disaster.
> <rant>
>  The release team are trying to pick up the pieces and manually spin ISO's.
> The cut off date is Thursday, we are now on Tuesday with NO stable ISO. For
> heavens sake, out of all the community who wanted a beta 1... lubuntu was
> the only one there and told it would be re-spun.

This is factually inaccurate.  With the exception of the Lubuntu alternate
images that were respun for a specific package update that I discussed with
you on IRC while I was doing it, all of the beta1 *candidate* images were
spun by Laney who kicked them off at 8pm his time.  The kubuntu image build
had to be tried a second time despite Laney having kicked it off, due to
suboptimal lockfile handling in the mirror script.

Furthermore, Iain is a member of the release team, which is why he's on
point for the beta milestone in the first place.  So it makes no sense to
suggest that "Laney bad, release team good", and when other members of the
release team are helping with such builds when it's after-hours for Iain,
it's because that's exactly how the system is designed to work.

I agree with Micah that an apology to Iain is in order.

> This is a disgraceful way to treat testers. Yes, those people who actually
> check systems work.

> I can be a royal PITA for shouting up what testers let me know, but not
> having  a beta 1 - with no idea when it will arrive and the final; insult
> of the person "Laney" to vanish from the discussion explains one simple
> thing... He's not up to the job of being pro-active for issues that occur.
> Instead the -release team gathered together to do what they could.

The task that Laney is signed up for on beta-1 is "image engineering" on
nusakan.  This means he's responsible for driving those parts of the
milestone that require shell access to the Canonical-only nusakan host. 
Since the beginning of this cycle, the *only* bit that requires access to
nusakan for a milestone is turning on/off the cron job.  For everything
else, the flavors are meant to be entirely self-service through the
iso.qa.ubuntu.com website, triggering whatever candidate builds they need
whenever they need them.  This feature has been implemented on the website
precisely because Canonical staff should *not* be responsible for driving
candidate images for milestones that Ubuntu is not participating in:
flavors should be responsible to themselves for making these milestones
happen.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek at ubuntu.com                                     vorlon at debian.org
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