[Blueprint sound-mixer] Include a graphical sound mixer by default
Aere Greenway
Aere at Dvorak-Keyboards.com
Thu Nov 20 21:27:34 UTC 2014
Blueprint changed by Aere Greenway:
Whiteboard changed:
Option #1: amixer; needed to open a terminal, not suitable for a newbie / lazzy
Option #2: pavucontrol (depending on libpulse libraries); can put one-click handy icon on panel
I support pavucontrol, and I think it needs the whole pulse-audio kit, but if that is not an option, you need to find something else /nio
Pavucontrol does require the pulse-audio kit, but I believe it is quite worth it (unless there is a performance hit I don't know of). A mucher better volume manager then any others.
--Baron
[amjjawad] +1
and, this must be fixed: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/832939/volumecontrol.ogv
[Srikanth - India]
In simple words, every user would like to see easy to use VOlume controller as in Windows(or ubuntu)...with Sliders....To be honest, alsa mixer is not so user friendly :(...
[vanyok] I support this initiative. Current sound mixer is too simple
and lacks of functionality, and alsa mixer is too difficult for newbies
to use.
[Baron]@Amjjawad, for the default volume applet, you have to have
pavucontrol install for it to work (as far as I know). As for indicator-
volume, I don't think that is fixable really. It direcly calls gnome-
volume-manager. The only thing that could be done is ln -s pavucontrol
gnome-volume-manager, ect.
[rafaellaguna] If you have the opportunity to see the Mate's mixer, it's
great. it's a different version of alsa - mixer very simple. We could
fork it ;)
[Mélodie] Hi, I agree about alsamixer not easy to use for newcomers.
But while trying other mixers in Lubuntu I could not find how to change alsamixer for another mixer, so I I purely removed the volume control plugin from the panel and replaced it with volumeicon-alsa which I configured to be started with the session and first configured it to use alsamixergui:
it's a very light alternative to alsamixer, and if you still don't find it having a look which is consistent enough, gnome-alsamixer is what I currently use, which I would suggest. However the cons is it is much bigger on the disk space compared to alsamixergui because of the depends: 8687 additional kilobytes are installed. (alsamixergui: 115 kb)
Here are two pics to get the idea:
http://meets.free.fr/Downloads/Lubuntu/ScreenShots/volume-control_alsamixer-gui.png
http://meets.free.fr/Downloads/Lubuntu/ScreenShots/volume-control_gnome-
alsamixer.png
alsamixer-gui is what I installed to my child's notebook where I seek
lightness and ease at same time.
I would not vote for pavu control which I found very difficult to handle
when I need to switch from loudspeakers to headset and vice versa, I
always had a hard time having the sound work again in the output. (When
trying to use it with pulse-audio).
[joern-schoenyan] Volti is really nice and quite light. https://code.google.com/p/volti/
But: it is GTK, and we should think about the future with Qt. Not easy!
[Mélodie] Volti has several python packages as depends:
****
Dependencies
pygtk 2.16.0 or later
pyalsaaudio 0.6 or later
dbus-python 0.80.0 or later
python-xlib 0.15rc1 or later (optional, used for keys events as an alternative to hal)
****
and volumeicon-alsa has depends which are already in the distro, if I get it well from that list:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/volumeicon-alsa
[Baron] I have tried volumeicon-alsa and Volti. Volti doesn't detect my
other sounds cards, and only works with the default soundcard, so
useless to me (much like the default applet/mixer). Volumeicon-alsa
works nice however. Not as nice as indicator-volume, but nice. Still
need pavucontrol just like indicator-volume though.
[Mélodie] it does not need "specifically" pavucontrol: the setup is done in the preferences to replace the default alsamixer with any mixer, such as "pavucontrol", or "alsamixer-gui", or "gnome-mixer", as per the pics I already pointed to:
http://meets.free.fr/Downloads/Lubuntu/ScreenShots/volume-control_alsamixer-gui.png
http://meets.free.fr/Downloads/Lubuntu/ScreenShots/volume-control_gnome-
alsamixer.png
If pulseaudio is not installed, not to be used, then anything else than
pavucontrol can be used.
[gilir] Pulseaudio and any depending packages is out of the question.
Also, any mixer which use a daemon is also out of the question. Adding
more memory for just a mixer is not acceptable. If you find an alsa-
based, without any daemon mechanism mixr, I can discuss it.
[amjjawad] So, can we move forward regarding this suggestion? maybe on
the mailing list or even here?
+
+ [Aere] I would like to propose an "option 3", which would also
+ facilitate the goal of moving to QT. That option is to use the
+ "qasmixer" package, which (in 14.04) uses the QT 4 libraries & toolset.
+ It has the capability of manipulating a huge variety (all?) of the
+ sound-card controls, including the "Synth" control of a Soundblaster
+ Live sound-card (which always has to be raised from its default
+ setting). I think it is basically a new version of AlsaMixer, done on
+ QT. It may have the ability to select the default sound-card. When you
+ use it, select "Show device selection" from its view menu, and (in the
+ right pane) select "hw : Card". It will then let you control the
+ settings for a particular sound-card (instead of just a single volume
+ slider).
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Include a graphical sound mixer by default
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/sound-mixer
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