[ADMIN] Screencast Team approval application

[Alan Pope]

Hi Matthew,

On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 23:35 +1000, Matthew Rossi wrote:
> On 10/10/07, Alan Pope <alan at popey.com> wrote:
>         He mailed the marketing team during the meeting. I got the
>         mail before
>         the meeting was over. He works pretty quickly.
> 
> Even I'm impressed, but I have another question for you: What are we
> SPECIFICALLY going to be given by Shuttleworth? 

I'm not sure we need anything directly from Mark. We are one of many
many teams. I don't think we can expect a large amount of his time given
all the other critical systems out there.


>         
>         :(
>         
>         You're entitled to your opinion of course, but I think you're
>         wrong :)
>         
>         It also depends what you mean by "huge", how you measure
>         success. 
> 
> Alan, "immensely huge".  Does the word immensely give you a clue on
> what sort of success that I am talking about?

Note really. It's a relative term. I could say that they are immensely
popular but without something to compare to, it's meaningless.

>         >   It is a very complicated process to create a screencast
>         which
>         > sometimes even I have trouble with. 
>         
>         Indeed it is a cumbersome process. Once which I'd like to see
>         made
>         easier.
> 
> Wouldn't we all? In fact, I wish there is a better way to create the
> introduction scenes, because every time that i try to record it, the
> title doesn't show up properly. 

Interesting. What goes wrong exactly? Maybe I can help?

>  I have to do each slide seperately.  I wish that there were other
> ways to make titles for the screencasts than using OpenOffice and
> capture the slide show. 
> 

Yeah, on other platforms they have nice tools, but OO.o is all I have
found that will do the job. I guess other tools like blender and
inkscape could be used, but I don't know those products.



> Alan, I am reading through the Screencasts that have been published
> since I posted mine about Skype.  Now there has only been TWO that
> have been translated into other languages.

You posted yours on 12th Sept. The translation page was started the next
day. Since then there have been over 50 edits of the translation page,
with more than 50 subtitle files now on the translation page:-

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/TranslationStatus

>   Those were the Printing in Ubuntu one and the one about burning the
> ubuntu iso in Infra Recorder for windows.  You have to be kidding me.
> Why ONLY two out of eight out of the LAST MONTH have subtitles.

Not quite. The subtitle files are all attached to the above linked page.
As and when I get time I go through that page and and upload them to the
site. 

>   Now there is a problem that NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED if we have ANY
> hope of putting these screencasts in ubuntu because it wouldn't be
> fair for those that don't speak decent english like you and I to miss
> out on learning through Screencasts. 
> 

I agree. 

> 
>         > For the translation stuff to work, we need to work out what
>         are the
>         > most important languages that we want the screencasts in,
>         and how 
>         > often do we release non-english stuff.  I find the current
>         process a
>         > joke, rather a nightmare.
>         >
>         
>         That's quite harsh.
> 
> That is absolute toilet.  The main goal should be to allow EVERYBODY
> to access these screencasts.  When there is a large demand for
> screencasts in say, Esperanto, what will you do about it? 
> 

As someone who speaks Esperanto to translate them. Yes we need more
translators, and I've asked the loco teams to get people involved, and
some have. We have over 50 people subscribed to this mailing list for a
start.

One real problem is that the subtitles aren't actually that easy to
translate. If we could somehow upload them into launchpad we could get
them potentially translated much quicker because there is a large team
of people already using the launchpad translation system for existing
projects. We could leverage that group. Problem is that someone would
need to devote time to writing the tools to convert the srt files to
something lp could use. I can't do that, a launchpad developer could
though.

> 
> I have already started writing such a spec and will do my best to move
>         that on at UDS later this month.
> 
> Do you have a draft on a wiki page?

We have a blueprint and a wiki page:-

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/screencasts-in-ubuntu
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastsInUbuntuSpec

>  Or will we have to wait after UDS? 

> Because we as a WHOLE team need to look at this and critique it so it
> comes from us, not just you.  WE ARE A TEAM, remember?
> 

I was hoping I could get someone from Canonical to look over it before I
publicised it, but the content is there for all to see and edit.


Cheers,
Al.
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