[Bug 427539] Re: [FFe] Sync libmaven packages from Debian unstable

[Armando Di Cianno]

@Matthias and Scott

I can understand your frustration, as well -- I was an official
developer for another distro circa 2003-2006.  Dealing with emotions,
"cares", and the people attached to them, via bug reports, can be
difficult, and is almost always frustrating.

However, the statements made above are asinine.  I'm simply *not* a Java
developer, in a traditional way.  I was a) Trying to use Maven with a
Ruby (JRuby) application I've inherited, and b) I'm trying to get my
feet wet with Scala (whos' tutorial references and uses Maven).  While
I'm slowly becoming accustomed to the complexity of launching, running,
and maintaining Java applications, I personally only view Maven as a
tool in my arsenal.

Maven is (erroneously often times) compared to 'make', as it is
frequently used similarly.  Can you imagine if 'make' was broken?  And
would you demand that bug reporters were C language masters if they were
reporting how a broken 'make' was affecting their application?

In other distros I've developed for, or simply used, I've never seen
people /discouraged/ from reporting bugs, or extending reports, even if
the additional information was "This is how it broke for me, and this is
why I care / what I'm doing."

I'm *really* glad this bug is getting resolved.  I'm sorry if my last
comment wasn't especially helpful, however, I'd suggest offering
critical commentary on what is helpful in a comment, instead of
"complaining about complaint comments", so to speak.  The statement from
Scott that "I find the "OMG, kittens will die" comments from people not
involved in Ubuntu development very frustrating and demotivating" is
itself extremely demotivating, unprofessional, and rather /unkind/, and
most certainly not something I expected from the Ubuntu developers and
community.

Again, thanks for the work and fixes.

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[FFe] Sync libmaven packages from Debian unstable
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/427539
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