proposed universe demotion: virt-manager (or, a request for active maintenance)

[Serge van Ginderachter]

On 31 January 2010 04:43, Dustin Kirkland <kirkland at canonical.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Vishal Rao <vishalrao at gmail.com> wrote:
> > For a regular user who wants a UI frontend to operate KVM etc, what
> > are my options?
> > Right now I am quite forced to move to VirtualBox/VMware because I'm
> > too noobish to work with the command line.
>
> Let me reiterate ...  I am not proposing that we drop it from the
> archive, but merely move it from Main to Universe.
>
> We use (and depend) on dozens of packages every day that are in
> Universe.  You would not lose access to virt-manager, but rather the
> stated support for the package would actually line up with the reality
> I feel we currently have.



>From a pure user perspective, please allow me to explain my point of view,
as I view it. I'm prettu sure lot's of users see it in a similar way.

- Ubuntu/Canonical choose KVM as its main Virtualisation technology.
- KVM is gaining more and more attention, especially since Red Hat choose it
as its own main virtualisation solution.
- Ubuntu wants to be Linux for human beings, which amongst others - and imho
-  means it needs to maintain a full stack of userland tools for its
solutions. I think a GUI application to KVM is a part of that.
- Canonical/Ubuntu internal discussions on how "server team" and "desktop
team" are separate entities which can't manage to agree on the full stack of
end user experience are not what I call "professional support". (Imho
virt-manager is part of the server offering, end of discussion.
- I understand that having software in Universe is for most users pretty
much the same as software in Main, but again, this is a very poor argument
in "entreprise environments". At some point bugs will arise which won't get
the needed attention because the soft is in Universe.

I do apologise in advance if my words seems a bit harsh, as this is
obviously not intended.

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