[Ubuntu-SG] Fwd: Re: Update on the mailing list. Great News!!!

Sun Apr 29 03:46:34 UTC 2007

Hi Champions,

Just casually glanced through the thread, not sure if I heard you all
correctly... but anyway, if you have any public Linux outreach plans, just
let everyone know in advance and I might be able to participate too...
cheers!

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Rykel
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On 4/29/07, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint <billy at ubuntu.sg> wrote:
>
> Sorry Harris , I only replied to you only just now , so I am re-replying
> it to
> the list.
>
> On Sunday 29 April 2007 02:36, Harris Ngan wrote:
> > Every year, there are always induction program for the freshman and also
> > alot of Fair right after first term. Many student societies will find
> > sponsors to put their product into the goodie bag.
>
> There are some questions , how does a company become a sponsor in those
> fairs ? Just give some product ? Do we need to give cash for it ? Are
> those
> fairs in charge by students or do we need schools' approval to be in it ?
>
> > Of course, people would
> > want a fully filled goodie. In that case, societies are more willing to
> > take any product to be included.
>
> Again , what to be included depends on the societies or schools must
> approve
> it ??
>
> > I am not exactly sure why Redhat and Suse
> > didn't approach the student cohort.
>
> They do. Linux Day usually gives out about 100 or so enterprise
> redhat/Suse
> CDs and DVDs free to students and to lecturers. I was one of the
> organisers
> the first , second and 4th events and this year I was one of the speakers
> at
> TP. Those events doesn't come free and money comes from novell/redhat/IBM.
>
> But yes I am not sure why are they not giving the CDs at the freshman
> fairs.
>
> > However, they usually target faculty
> > and enterprise users rather than free hobbiest that are not going to
> > subscribe a support plan.
> > If our vision is to 'free the world', then we
> > should look at the student cohort since they will be the most fun loving
> > and willing to try.
> > If our ultimate aim is to become the largest local
> > support centre for ubuntu,
>
> Nope. Canonical should build the support centre here. Support needs
> time/man/money who has time to drive around fixing wireless problems for
> Ubuntu users now for free ? Help , yes. We can help one another whenever
> we
> have time on the net like we do now.
>
> > then of course  we will promote ourselves
> > similar to redhat and suse. There are things companies won't do but
> > communities will.
>
> Why you think redhat/novell/IBM supports LUGS so much ?? :P
>
> > Too bad i have left univ long time ago and I have no
> > contact for the societies. But I had organised similar events in the
> past
> > and I know most of them will be looking hard for sponsors and freebie
> > donors at this time.
>
> OK , if its up to the socities only , we can order about 500 CDs from
> canonical using shipit. That needs to give a reason so we should try to
> get
> in contact with the socities. I will ask around. Pls post here if you are
> or
> know any contact person that can help us.
>
> > So just my thought and i believe the freshers are
> > likely to play with the distro and join the sg community than the
> > enterprise users in companies.
>
> I have always had some doubts over this. Let me explain , I myself was
> vice-president of NP Linux User Group 3 years ago and well I found that
> more
> newbie they are less likely they will appreciate Linux. Remember , for a
> newbie , a computer without being able to play mp3 , play games or go to
> school website , they all require IE , is a pain in the ass.
>
> Also remember that for students , windows + office is FREE. I must have
> reinstalled windows on my laptop for about 10 or so times and I paid
> nothing
> for it. Original Serials even. Same goes for dreamweaver , flash , visual
> studio , frontpage. Oh you name it , its all free for students except 3DS
> MAX
> and director. They are only at special labs for multimedia students.
>
> What then makes Linux better ? What reason ? For newbies , especially
> those
> who get original software for free , there isn't much.
>
> It is a lot easier to ask those who are technically better. They
> appreciate
> the bash shell , gcc , being able to see source code and so on. They also
> enjoy playing with perl/python regexp and probably into jsp/jsf using
> eclipse. They probably use firefox on windows so they don't have any
> problem
> with it. They also understand the license issues with mp3 and most codecs.
>
> We can always try , thats not a problem. But I would like everyone to try
> to
> suggest Ubuntu to a friend who has never ever heard of Linux. Eventually ,
> we
> will face the kind of problems that LUGS or anyone who suggest Linux face.
> Might as well try it now.
>
> As a side note , I should say that last year , at open source day , LUGS
> members , me included , went around the orchard giving CDs , ubuntu
> included , to people. One of the members , George , wore the penguin dress
> we
> managed to loan it. Now , what do you think happened , people taking CDs
> giving out for free of charge or wanting to take a picture with a penguin.
>
> regards
> billy
>
> > For me, I always see that myself, a poor
> > student in the past, will love to have as much free quality software to
> > accomplish my tasks as possible and so ubuntu creates this scenario
> where
> > this can come true.CheersHarris> From: billy at ubuntu.sg> To:
> > in_flu_ence at msn.com> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-SG] Update on the mailing
> list.
> > Great News!!!> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:29:37 +0800> CC:
> > ubuntu-sg at lists.ubuntu.com> > On Saturday 28 April 2007 19:18, Harris
> Ngan
> > wrote:> > Congrats. I think Ubuntu has been a fast growing distro and
> thus
> > it makes> > very much sense people will join us quicker than LUGS. We do
> > have a very> > important advertisement. That's the link from the ubuntu
> > main site. I guess> > that's where most people pick up our site.I was
> > suddenly having an idea> > about promoting Ubuntu. In NUS/NTU/SMU or
> > wherever, there are always> > freshman fair where societies are looking
> for
> > freebies. It is May and maybe> > we can actually request say some copies
> of
> > Ubuntu CD to be placed in these> > freebie bags, esp to the computer
> > societies/science societies etc?What do> > you think? > > Nice idea but
> > hard to do. If this is possible , fedora and opensuse would have > done
> it
> > before ubuntu. There is OpenSource Day or Linux Day in schools though >
> but
> > this year event is over so we just have to wait. Also how do we get >
> > Ubuntu CDs to get into the bags or to students? Does anyone work in >
> > NUS/NTU/SMU ? > > regards> billy> > > It will be great to see the univ
> > students start picking up the > > new OS. Well, that's where Linux got
> > developed - university.In addition,> > with the talent from XP, we can
> have
> > some download of UBUNTU SG> > thems/wallpaper etc. After all, the aim of
> > Linux is about building the> > community.For those who want to know more
> > about Linux, the 'revolution os'> > video can be quite an interesting> >
> > show
> .http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7707585592627775409&q=revoluti
> >
> >> >on+os&hl=enEnjoyzHarris> From: billy at ubuntu.sg> To:> >
> >
> > ubuntu-sg at lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:43:30 +0800>
> > Subject:> > [Ubuntu-SG] Update on the mailing list. Great News!!!> > Hi
> > Guys , >       > >  >                    I just went to mailing list
> admin
> > interface to clean> > up > spams sent here and thought it would be nice
> to
> > see how many members> > we have > here. We got 27 members here!! WOW! >
> >
> >                  Thats> > excellent for a group that started less than a
> > year > to go without any> > advertisement or anything , except my *spam*
> in
> > LUGS :P . > For comparison> > , LUGS has about 500 members , with less
> than
> > 50 or so active. > So this is> > a pretty good sign for Ubuntu in
> > Singapore. Perhaps we should ask > mark> > shuttleworth to come down
> here
> > again when we hit about 100 ??? > > regards>> > billy
> >                  >
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