[Ubuntu-SG] [Bulk] Re: South-East Asian FOSS Collaboration

[Muhammad Heidir]

I am utterly disturbed by this loop. I know about its existence, but now
I know more why it happened.
Billy, your loop is well understood.

Is it possible that we penetrate the use of FOSS starting at educational
instructors? If only they are guided and make known about the existence
of free alternatives and its benefits, I'm sure it can be taken into
consideration. Once we are able to set their mind open, hopefully, they
are able to extend this among their learners. That is for educational
part.

In business organizations, (in my opinion) the reason why they adopt
redmond products, are in terms of resources (as highlighted by Billy)
and the amount of paid support that businesses can turn to should they
encounter problems, including the added security of receiving timely
patches.

I know Red Hat Enterprise Linux is well-received because of paid
support. So much so that some adopters turn from free to paid support,
not from paid to free. This are one of the areas, FOSS might consider if
they have resources and the user-base is large.

Anyway, thanks Billy for the heads-up!

On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 00:08 +0800, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint
wrote:

> On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 20:14 폍㐲驦鴝誼⮢힇裘鲆襚낋炊奛秇ꮵꢧ霨⭹ꭢ缇鲢 come up for a meeting. I'm sure
> > we can share ideas, experiences and plan about promoting FOSS adoption
> > in the region. This will bring great benefits to each other culturally
> > too.
> > 
> > I heard that Malaysia and Indonesia has a lot of FOSS users due to its
> > low-cost(..free) and can be tailored to different languages such as
> > Bahasa Malaysia and Bahasa Indonesia. My guess is, FOSS can be readily
> > accepted mainstream, its just a matter of time. I would like to know
> > you thoughts about this.
> > 
> > Whereas in Singapore, most of the companies here prefers Microsoft,
> > because they come pre-installed, and Microsoft provides support
> > including most of the Administrators are MCSE certified. The problem
> > starts at the educational level, where students are overly exposed to
> > Microsoft based Operating Systems and Applications. Due to this
> > familiarisation and training conducted on Microsoft products,
> > naturally they are more accustomed to use it. If only we could project
> > to them the benefits and advantage of using an Open systems, they will
> > somehow understand.
> 
> Actually the problem is a recursive loop. Teachers themselves are not
> sure about anything other than windows so they will make a hell of a
> noise if schools buy non-ms systems and of course they can't teach any
> other than windows.So they teach windows to students who only learnt
> windows.
> 
> Since everyone who got out of IT school knows windows , they are
> everywhere and are dirt cheap to hire and fire.Therefore companies love
> them. And the companies only buy windows systems because the people they
> hire only knows windows.
> 
> Since companies only hire windows admins/programmers , schools only
> teach windows stuff saying market only wants windows skills. and this
> goes on and on and on and on and on.... sort of like a recursive loop
> 
> Ramblings from former vice-president of NgeeAnn Polytechnic Linux Users
> Group,
> billy
> 
> > 
> > Anyway, I look forward to meeting with South-East Asians FOSS
> > enthusiasts!
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > supervivid
> 
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