[Ubuntu-SG] Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster => Workshop considerations
Ruiwen Chua
ruiwen at linuxNUS.org
Fri Mar 20 05:52:24 UTC 2009
2009/3/20 C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>:
> Skip to the bottom if you've been tracking this conversation where I
> reply to Heidir!
>
> On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 10:44 +0800, Muhammad Heidir wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 09:22 +0800, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint
>> wrote:
>> > Good Morning ,
>> >
>> > Here I would have to agree with David. Every now and then
>> > some of my friends' laptops would have trouble booting from a usb so to
>> > minimise the time troubleshooting possible problems , we could break up
>> > the whole thing into two segments as suggested by David eg lecture and
>> > tutorial.
>> >
>> > regards
>> > Billy
>> >
>> > PS : Today is the date for the trial right? Venue and Time? Sorry, I've
>> > been out-of-touch lately.
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 09:08 +0800, C David Rigby wrote:
>> > > Good morning all,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 19:22 +0800, Ho Fucai wrote:
>> > > > Hi Heidir,
>> > > >
>> > > > I suggest removing the lines about having participants to bring in
>> > > > their own live cds. Instead ammend it with:
>> > > >
>> > > > "Participants are required(in bold) to bring their own
>> > > > thumbdrives/flash disks to fully take advantage of the OS
>> > > > demonstrations"
>> > > >
>> > > > Once the poster is finalized (ASAP). let me know. I will mail that out
>> > > > to the students.
>> > > >
>> > > > Fucai
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Fucai, this does follow from my original intentions and proposal.
>> > > However, until we have tested the setup in the lab, I'm not sure that we
>> > > can actually use the lab computers to write liveUSB images. Even if we
>> > > can, that does not mean the liveUSB images will work well on the
>> > > participants own computers.
>> > >
>> > > In particular, the BIOS of the particpant's own computer mus be set to
>> > > boot from USB. My recent model Acer laptop, for example, has FOUR
>> > > options for USB boot: USB HDD, USB CDROM, USB FDD and USB KEY. It will
>> > > boot from a USB Flash drive, which we normally call a USB Key, but one
>> > > must choose the USB HDD option, not the USB KEY option, in order for
>> > > this to work.
>> > >
>> > > So, it is not a trivial task to get that set up properly. Also to the
>> > > point is that writing a liveUSB image is a time-consuming process. If we
>> > > do it from the liveCDs, the liveCD systems really cannot do anything
>> > > else during that time. Ergo, people will be sitting around with little
>> > > activity for a (30 minutes or so).
>> > >
>> > > How about this:
>> > >
>> > > Let's divide the workshop into two, one-hour sessions.
>> > >
>> > > The first is a generic "Intro to the Desktop" presentation. Demo'd by
>> > > the presenter, with participants following along on their liveCD-booted
>> > > PCs. No participant equipment required.
>> > >
>> > > The second half is a "Write Ubuntu to Your USB device". More
>> > > experimental, and participants must bring their own USB flash or HDD of
>> > > AT LEAST 2 GB capacity and their own portable computer. They need to be
>> > > warned that the contents of the USB device will be lost, so don't bring
>> > > one full of critical data that is not backed up somewhere else.
>> > >
>> > > Rather than put too much info on the poster, we simply indicate that
>> > > participants need to check the website for full requirements for the USB
>> > > installation. Kheng Hui, note that this means we need to expand the
>> > > registration form to provide a place where the participants can indicate
>> > > whether or not they intend to participate in the USB install option.
>> > >
>> > > Again, I apologize for the uncertainties at this late date, but until we
>> > > do the check out today at the lab, it will be tough to know exactly what
>> > > we can offer in that environment and stay within reasonable constraints
>> > > of time and personnel available.
>> > >
>> > > Thoughts, eveyone?
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > > CDR
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > ______________________________________________________________________
>> > > > From: Muhammad Heidir <dave33bravo at yahoo.com.sg>
>> > > > To: C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>; Kheng Hui Yeo
>> > > > <icedwater at gmail.com>
>> > > > Cc: Ho Fucai <ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg>; dave33bravo at yahoo.com
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 3:29:18
>> > > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >
>> > > > Sorry I just managed to check my email now.
>> > > >
>> > > > 1. David, could you provide the directions to the Arts Canteen?
>> > > >
>> > > > 2. Fucai, Kheng Hui, is it possible to provide the full text which you
>> > > > need me to amend?
>> > > >
>> > > > 3. I am still waiting for linuxNUS logo. If this is not possible, I
>> > > > will be creating the word with a sub tag below it, "Open Up to Open
>> > > > Source"
>> > > >
>> > > > 4. As suggested, I will be highlighting the logos on the poster..
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank you.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best Regards,
>> > > > Muhammad Heidir
>> > > > Yahoo!: dave33bravo | Multiply: doksg
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > ______________________________________________________________________
>> > > > From: C David Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com>
>> > > > To: Kheng Hui Yeo <icedwater at gmail.com>
>> > > > Cc: Ho Fucai <ho_fucai at yahoo.com.sg>; dave33bravo at yahoo.com
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 3:14:14
>> > > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Live! Workshop Poster
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Kheng Hui Yeo <icedwater at gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > Hello Fucai,
>> > > >
>> > > > Don't worry - linuxNUS can provide about 30. We just need help
>> > > > burning
>> > > > them all. ;) Though we've probably got that covered, too.
>> > > > As for the registration, maybe you could send them to our link
>> > > > http://www.linuxnus.org/register/ubuntu ?
>> > > > We'll hand you a copy of the name list, don't worry about it.
>> > > > Since
>> > > > we've pretty much estimated the turnout and given the numbers
>> > > > to SOC
>> > > > admin, I take it this event is good to go?
>> > > >
>> > > > Test session is tomorrow... the CDs won't all be burned by
>> > > > then, but
>> > > > we can bring some.
>> > > >
>> > > > See you at COM1 then! As usual, David, Heidir, if you need
>> > > > directions,
>> > > > drop me a message (91804777). There's really poor reception
>> > > > within
>> > > > COM1. Ironic, but that's one thing to like about the building,
>> > > > it's
>> > > > got a sense of humour. I suggest we meet at the arts canteen
>> > > > first at
>> > > > around 3.50? (I'll be done with a class just before then.)
>> > > > Fucai, you
>> > > > can go straight of course, since you already know how to get
>> > > > there. ;)
>> > > >
>> > > > Best regards,
>> > > > Kheng Hui
>> > > >
>> > > > OK, I know the way to Arts Canteen. Heidir, advise myself or Keng Hui
>> > > > if you need directions.
>> > > >
>> > > > I will also bring some CDs, enough for testing at any rate. I will
>> > > > provide more live CDs once we confirm that booting from live CD works
>> > > > in the lab. I have a stash of them left over from OSSPAC. Time
>> > > > permitting, I will also be producing labels for them that will show
>> > > > our groups' names and website addresses, as applicable.
>> > > >
>> > > > However, we have requested real, official Ubuntu live CDs for the
>> > > > event. We just do not know if they will arrive in time.
>> > > >
>> > > > Keng Hui, noting that you also responded, you can help replenish my
>> > > > stock from linuxNUS' supply if you like.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards
>> > > > CDR
>> > > >
>> > > >
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>> >
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I agree with David and Billy. Booting up and creating the Live USB takes
>> time. We wouldnt want the session to be a troubleshooting lesson.
>>
>> We can have the split the session into 2 or hold another session on it
>> and other advanced topics.
>>
>> Still, do you require any changes on the poster as of now?
>
> Given that we need to get the poster out today, but that content of the
> presentation is still to be determined, let's do this:
>
> 1. Indicate that registration for the event is required, and
> give the URL for linuxNUS' registration form.
>
> 2. In a large font, perhaps italicized font at the bottom, ask
> the reader to (without the quotes, of course):
>
> "Please visit our web site at
> http://ubuntu.sg/UbuntuWorkshop_NUS for more information
> on the event!"
>
> This page is currently "under construction" but I will get it
> filled in with something by tomorrow.
>
> What does everyone think?
>
> CDR
>
Will we do the split liveCD/liveUSB sessions? If so, then I'll add the
field about bringing their own USB sticks to the registration form
/Ruiwen
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