[Ubuntu-SG] Update on the ubuntu.sg website, and thoughts on TUSG
Muhammad Heidir
md.heidir at gmail.com
Thu May 27 14:15:25 UTC 2010
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 15:43 +0800, Chen Xiangpeng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I always thought that this mailing list is more of a user discussion
> group :P In my opinion, the group here is a bit small to create
> significant impact. There ain't a lot of Linux users in Singapore and
> Ubuntu-sg is a even smaller subset. With this in mind, I suggest we
> focus on what small groups can do with our limited manpower and
> resources.
>
> In my opinion, the best thing we can do is to be an active part of the
> overall Linux landscape in Singapore. The team has actively
> participated in activities like SFD and such, which I think is a good
> idea to gain exposure. The next thing we can focus on is
> Singapore-specific Ubuntu/Linux issues. A year or two back, we did
> have people asking for help here on getting their m1/singtel hwawei 3g
> dongles working with ubuntu. This is where we can be useful, cause for
> anything more generic can probably be solved by participating in the
> official ubuntu forums.
>
> Regards,
> XP
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 15:14, Ho Yi Hao Pipat <yihao.ho at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> All right,
>
>
> Let me get started. With the release of Windows 7and the
> success story people have behind it. It is no wonder that
> people start flooding to it.
>
>
> We cannot rely on just a website and expect people to give
> ubuntu a try. It will be best if someone can form a
> group/company to actually help people set up their new ubuntu
> computer to their specs.
>
>
> This would attract people to ubuntu or linux.
>
>
> So, to summarise it up, I personally think that if this group
> is to continue rather than be a place where people who know
> linux gather but rather a group to help, we should do more to
> attract people to use linux.
>
>
> The site is just one of the point.
>
>
> My honest opinion.
>
> With regards,
> Yi Hao
>
> +65 98574690
> yihao.ho at gmail.com
> yihao at statick.sg
>
> Store Admin,
> Statick.sg,
> Singapore's Premier Entertainment site.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:48 PM, C David Rigby
> <c.david.rigby at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 27,May,2010 10:52 AM, Ho Yi Hao Pipat
> wrote:
> > Agreed. I haven't been participating in the event
> > alot but reading through all the emails taht I've
> > received from you guys really makes me wonder if we
> > have any goals for us to achieve.
> >
> >
> > How about someone starting a discussion of our goals
> > right here?
> >
> > With regards,
> > Yi Hao
> >
> > +65 98574690
> > yihao.ho at gmail.com
> > yihao at statick.sg
> >
> > Store Admin,
> > Statick.sg,
> > Singapore's Premier Entertainment site.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Hi Yi Hao,
>
> That is my intent! Sorry, I didn't mean to be at all
> subtle about it. {8-> David
>
>
> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:12 PM, albin
> > <plainsunset at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > I am new here....and i agree with David on
> > what he said. About what we want this group
> > to represent. I haven being in this group
> > for long but i totally agree we need to know
> > what this group stands for to better plan
> > for its future.=)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, C David
> > Rigby <c.david.rigby at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I exchanged emails with Billy AM
> > earlier in the week. He is in
> > Myanmar
> > currently, but he will be back next
> > week. He said that he is happy to
> > update the DNS to point ubuntu.sg at
> > whatever hosting account or other
> > solution that we settle on.
> >
> > We've discussed the web site a lot,
> > and some of our past meetings have
> > discussed our organization (or lack
> > there of) quite a bit. Before we
> > launch off pell-mell into another
> > exercise in web site building, can
> > we
> > agree on the answer to the question:
> > what do we want our organization to
> > be?
> >
> > If we are just going to be an
> > informal meet & chat group, I don't
> > see
> > much need to put a lot of effort
> > into a web site. This mailing list,
> > our
> > wiki page at
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SingaporeTeam and
> > Facebook/Twitter/SocNet-of-the-Month
> > are more than sufficient.
> >
> > If we want to be more, what "more"
> > do we want to be? What are the goals
> > of the group? We had an answer to
> > that once, but then we all drifted
> > apart and went off to do other
> > things.
> >
> > Sorry if this seems to be opening
> > the same old can of worms again. I'm
> > happy to be a member of and support
> > Team Ubuntu Singapore, but I want to
> > be efficient in my efforts. I do not
> > have a clear definition in my mind
> > of what the group is or wants to be.
> > So I think we need to have that
> > discussion first.
> >
> > Regards,
> > David
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Alvin Yip
> > hp: +65 - 90927616
> >
> > "Everything happens for a reason..
> > Even if it means not getting what you want..
> > Because in the end.. you realize..
> > its exactly what you needed.."
> >
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Hi Guys,
I would like to add and comment on a few stuff.
1) I noticed that this mailing list is always replied by the regular
people. No offence to the newbies, but I noticed that most of them are
hit and run type. They get the fire burning after trying Ubuntu, tried
to join this group, but see no response and the fire just fades away.
2) Taking part in SFDS and other activities seems to be a problem where
only those who are really interested and knows stuff about Ubuntu dare
to take part. Where are the newbies? We need you! We need support, we
don't care whether you are newbie or a guru, its the thought and
participation that counts!
To those who are new to Ubuntu and trying to convert and become
comfortable, I realised that these are the kind of people we really need
in SFDS. To be able to share your experience is a plus and will
encourage people to try out Ubuntu during the event. You can really
convince them!
3) I also notice that people are willing to suggest ideas and solutions,
but nobody is willing to come forward and work on it. I really
appreciate it, but personally, it is not fruitful enough. TUSG has very
limited resources to work on these ideas even if it is brilliant. The
only way to make it work is to work on it, personally or in individual
groups using this mailing list as a stepping stone.
4) I'm sorry if I sound harsh. But I really have to let it out.
5) Suggestion: This was suggested by Prakash, the Canonical guy whom
Francis and I talked to yesterday after the Ubuntu presentation.
In events, we give out CDs.
9/10 the CDs will be thrown away or used as coasters.
Instead of giving away the CDs for free, we can charge them a small fee.
Preferable $5 - $10.
When they buy this CD, inform them that by paying this small fee, they
are entitled to a 30-day phone support. (I mention phone support, not
on-site)
This can be done individually without Team Ubuntu Singapore approval.
This is just a suggestion for anyone who is interested.
As I mentioned, this is just a rough idea of what we can do to publicise
Ubuntu in Singapore.
6) Unfortunately, the above suggestion is not possible during Software
Freedom Day Singapore due to NLB restriction. To overcome this obstacle,
we can give away the CDs, and make them register.
By registering, inform them that if they run into any problem, they can
contact any of us (who are willing) for an on-site visit. Tell them
there will be a fee for the first visit and subsequent support calls
will be valid for 30-days.
7) Why these fees? Singaporeans will use it even if they don't like when
you make them pay for it.
Who benefits? They benefit from using Ubuntu (no virus, no malware).
Support provider gets paid. Canonical is grateful. Everyone is happy.
8) Goals.....
What do we want to do? Publicise Ubuntu? Preach Ubuntu? Keep
participating in SFDS indefinitely without concrete goals?
What are we trying to achieve?
I leave these questions to all.
Thank you.
Muhammad Heidir
Launchpad: ~heidir
Team Ubuntu Singapore
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