[Ubuntu-SG] New to singapore

[billy am]

isn't it the truth? I just did a major project with a 3rd party software
company at work. Company wide project with multiple Oracle servers ,
weblogc  , jboss , etc etc. From our side , there are only 2 people. Me and
the project manager who is more of a budget , schedule manager rather than
technical.

Clearly , the value of a project manager , in SG at least , is at how
he/she handles the upper management on the budget / schedule and how to
communicate the requirement. Nothing about actual software / hardware /
setup / config / maintenance is required.

Frankly , if anyone want to be actually managing IT infra and makes
decisions on IT , take MBA/CFA/ACCA/CPA. It would be faster.


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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Tom Goh <tomgohj at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with that statement on management.  The universities teach kids
> that what they should aspire to is be a project manager.  I have asked
> several university students what they want to do after graduation and they
> all said project manager.  When asked why, they say that is what their
> professors tell them.
>
> That is why tech in Singapore is so bad.  Because we have project managers
> who don't know how to develop or run systems in the real world and get the
> wool pulled over their eyes.  They just rely on big vendors to propose
> solutions.
>
> Its getting better now that there is a growing start up culture.
> On Nov 21, 2014 7:45 PM, "Chow Loong Jin" <hyperair at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 01:26:29PM +0800, billy am wrote:
>> > Redhat has. Canonical I am not sure ... Mark did come down to Singapore
>> > before. Suse yes.
>>
>> Red Hat's mostly a sales office, as are most other multi-national
>> companies
>> (e.g. Google, Facebook) which have bases in Singapore. I think the only
>> major
>> large corporation with a real coding base here is PayPal.
>>
>> > NUS mirrors everything btw. Including CRAN , CPAN , etc ... But again ,
>> the
>> > Universities train office workers/drones , not technologists/hackers.
>> Pls
>> > keep it in mind.
>>
>> Not quite, they train people who think that coding is a stepping stone
>> toward
>> management. And then they become managers and hang up whatever little
>> xcoding
>> skills they had in the first place.
>>
>> > Linux is cheaper ONLY if in large numbers. For SMEs , Linux is a
>> nightmare.
>> > Windows admins with 3 - 4 years experience can be found for below 2k /
>> mth
>> > , if you know where and how to find.
>>
>> Eh speak for yourself. I used to work in an SME with only 3 people (aside
>> from
>> me). They're doing pretty well, and they're mostly a Linux shop.
>>
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>> Loong Jin
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