[ubuntu-studio-devel] [Erich Eickmeyer] Contact

Tue Oct 15 16:40:09 UTC 2024

Hi Eugenia,

You're welcome, but I'm not the only person involved with Ubuntu Studio. 
You, with these emails, can also be involved, and as such I highly 
recommend joining the Ubuntu Studio Developers mailing list at 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel so that 
you can participate and send these requests there rather than emailing 
me personally.

 >Friction

Looks good, and that's quite possible. I'm not sure if anyone on the 
Debian Multimedia team has any eyes on it as we typically follow them 
for the packaging, but hopefully they do. Typically we don't include RCs 
of software in the repos unless that software has already been released 
previously and the RC fixes some major bugs with regards to building.

 >Scribus

We used to include Scribus by default, but dropped it to save space on 
our .iso images since Ubuntu Studio is, by far, the largest Ubuntu 
flavor. It is still supported and can be installed as part of our 
`ubuntustudio-publishing` metapackage.

 >Freecad

CAD is borderline and worthy of discussion of whether or not it is 
within the scope of Ubuntu Studio and, therefore, which category it 
belongs in (graphics or publishing). Remember, whenever we add a package 
it increases our .iso image size, and we need to keep that down as much 
as possible, so we must be very critical. As it is now, Freecad is 
available in the repositories among other CAD applications, so we must 
be thoughtful about which CAD applications we include, if we choose to 
include one. This should be a discussion on the mailing list, so I 
*highly* encourage you to join.

 >LMMS

LMMS is an application we already include by default, and is synced from 
Debian, so where Debian goes we go.

 >More plugins, zsynth, dexed

Adding more plugins and what-not would be something I'd like to do now 
that the dust is settling from multiple transitions over the course of 
the past two cycles (time_t64, plasma 6), so there's a lot to be 
discussed. Joining the email list or discussing it in Matrix is a good 
idea. https://matrix.to/#/#ubuntustudio:ubuntu.com

Anyhow, thanks for the email, and I look forward to seeing you on the 
email list and on Matrix.

Erich

--
Erich Eickmeyer
Project Leader - Ubuntu Studio
Technical Lead - Edubuntu

On 10/13/24 22:59, Eugenia Loli wrote:
> Hello Erich,
> thank you for the new version of Studio!
>
> I have some news about video compositing, as we discussed in the past.
> Apparently, there's a brand new app that should be packaged. It's
> about to hit RC1 very soon: https://friction.graphics/
> It's an After Effects clone and actively developed. The guy who makes
> it doesn't like Flatpaks/snaps, so the app is not well known yet. But
> it definitely is going to replace Natron for most people on Linux.
>
> Additionally, another idea would be to install Scribus by default, as
> it is part of the creative process for many people.
>
> Another would be Freecad and/or QCad (the GPL version). Especially now
> that Freecad is going to hit v1.0. It is possible to create art with
> them, as a lot of architects also learn to draw at school.
>
> Finally, please consider adding LMMS when the new version is going to
> get released. They're very actively working on git to add VST3 and
> recording, making it more full featured. Adding more plugins and audio
> apps like zsynth, dexed etc would be great too, so new users get more
> tools at hand after installation.
>
> thanks,
> Eugenia
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 4:59 AM Erich Eickmeyer
> <erich at ericheickmeyer.com> wrote:
>> Hi Eugenia, and hello from Seattle!
>>
>> We already do include kdenlive and Krita by default. The one that we're missing is Natron, as it's in neither the Ubuntu nor the Debian repositories for reasons that are unknown to me at the moment other than it has never been packaged. As a packager myself, it can be a very tedious task. It has been in the back of my mind for quite some time. With Ubuntu Studio being a volunteer project, time is sometimes something we don't have enough of.
>>
>> As DaVinci Resolve, Houdini, and Reaper are closed-source applications that go against licensing terms, we cannot support them in any way. Even pre-configuring them would show support, and that would be crossing a line into territory that we simply do not have capacity for. Additionally, since they are closed source, dependencies can change without notice, which makes them moving targets, so we simply cannot support such moving targets.
>>
>> That said, thank you for the suggestions. Unfortunately, we are bound by the limitations imposed by the Ubuntu Technical Board as part of being an official flavor of Ubuntu, so some of these suggestions simply aren't possible, while others are.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Erich
>> --
>> Erich Eickmeyer
>> Project Leader - Ubuntu Studio
>> Technical Lead - Edubuntu
>>
>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 5:40 PM Eugenia <donotreply at wordpress.com> wrote:
>>> Name:
>>> Eugenia
>>>
>>> Email:
>>> eugenia17 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> Website:
>>> http://www.eugenialoli.com
>>>
>>> Message:
>>> Erich,
>>> hello from Spokane!
>>>
>>> I just donated a bit that I could for ubuntu studio. I have a bit of feedback, if I may. I think it'd be great to include kdenlive, Natron, and Krita on the distro by default. Sure, these are kde/qt apps, but they belong in the distro that hails as the best multimedia distro. We like it or not, kdenlive is the superior video editor on Linux (apart from Davinci Resolve), Natron is the superior compositor in terms of usability (Blender's is too problematic for casual compositing), and there is nothing else as powerful as Krita!
>>>
>>> I'm sure these can be downloaded from the repos, but it's important to include these by default. It would really enrich the out of the box experience for media users.
>>>
>>> Another interesting idea would be to have the distro ready, with full dependencies and changes pre-configured to run closed source media apps, like Resolve, Houdini, Reaper, and a couple other pro audio apps that are available for Linux. Just so the users who might want to use these closed source apps, to not have headaches after manually installing them. These apps have demos, so you could install their demos to test them (no need to buy them).
>>>
>>> take care!
>>> Eugenia
>>>
>>>
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