Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 19, Issue 2

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>    1. change background colors in JACK? (Paul DeShaw)
>    2. First impressions - what's JACK? (Tomas Valusek)
>    3. Re: First impressions - what's JACK? (Hakan Koseoglu)
>    4. Re: change background colors in JACK? (hollunder at gmx.at)
>    5. Re: First impressions - what's JACK? (hollunder at gmx.at)
>    6. Re: Removing Timidity (Alex Montgomery)
>    7. Re: change background colors in JACK? (mentoj_dija at gmx.de)
>    8. Re: First impressions - what's JACK? (Tomas Valusek)
>    9. Re: First impressions - what's JACK? (Tomas Valusek)
>   10. Re: Selecting Hardware for Music Production (Sean Darby)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:21:01 -0700
> From: "Paul DeShaw" <pauldeshaw at gmail.com>
> Subject: change background colors in JACK?
> To: ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID:
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> Greetings,
>
> I believe this has been asked before, but so far I have not seen an
> answer.  If I missed it, forgive me for asking again.
>
> When I open JACK, much of it is completely illegible, because of the
> dark text on a dark background.  I can't read the labels on the tabs
> in the Connect window, nor can I see the lines showing the
> connections.  Changing GNOME themes doesn't affect it.  I have also
> tried customizing the Ubuntu Studio theme in various ways, but I can't
> seem to change those colors.  I have this trouble on my desktop, with
> an old CRT monitor and low-end ATI graphics.  On my Apple laptop,
> Ubuntu Studio is stunning, especially with Compriz.  It's just the
> desktop where there's a problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul in Seattle
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 07:40:40 +0100
> From: Tomas Valusek <tvalusek at seznam.cz>
> Subject: First impressions - what's JACK?
> To: ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <490D4B68.9030300 at seznam.cz>
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>
> Hello,
>
> I'm a music teacher. I'm visually impaired, but don't need to use 
> assistive technologies, I prefer to utilize various system settings such 
> as varying font sizes, altering color schemes, or using light-weight 
> magnifiers, one of which is built directly into X server - ability to 
> have smaller screen resolution than desktop size. But this doesn't seem 
> to work in 8.10, Alt+grey+ and Alt+gray- don't respond as expected.
>
> But that's not why I write this post. Music software in general is very 
> demanding to ... sight, a very strange thing considering the result is 
> meant to be perceived by ear. Windows music creation software is very 
> expensive, and after working with it for several hours my eyes hurt 
> badly from constant chasing of mouse pointer. I watch Linux since its 
> bearth in 1991 and from time to time I have tried various distros. 
> Ubuntu Studio is very attractive to me because 1. as a free software, I 
> can use it anywhere not caring about software activation or any other 
> license matters, and 2. I hope I can eventually get a music creation 
> tool which would suit my needs - by providing feedback to developers.
>
> But currently, I feel tossed away by Ubuntu Studio - if I run apps like 
> MusE or Rosegarden, they complain JACK is not found. As a Windows user, 
> I have no ide what's JACK for, and searching the Net yields some pages 
> describing JACK from developer's point of view, no end-user, 
> non-technical howto exists AFAIK. I think if I get specialized distro 
> like Ubuntu Studio, no such dialogs should appear after install, this 
> should be configured during install.
>
> User docs of Ubuntu Studio are heavily outdated and incomplete, an 
> article about audio apps has just the heading saying JACK and JACK apps, 
> but nothing is written about this subject. I wanted to look into forums, 
> but after clicking a linke labeled Genearl help, no "studio" string is 
> found on that page. Yes, there is Multimedia production forum, but there 
> should be specific Ubuntu Studio forum with "studio" in its name, where 
> distro-specific issues should be discussed.
>
> Nevertheless, I'm not going to give up, since I'd like to create music 
> without my eyes hurting :-)
>
> Best Regards.
>
> Tomas Valusek
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:46:52 +0000
> From: "Hakan Koseoglu" <hakan.koseoglu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: First impressions - what's JACK?
> To: "Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion"
> 	<ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
> 	<ceb75a570811020146s784326e5y32edc662db3584fe at mail.gmail.com>
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> Hi Tomas,
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Tomas Valusek <tvalusek at seznam.cz> wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> But currently, I feel tossed away by Ubuntu Studio - if I run apps like
>> MusE or Rosegarden, they complain JACK is not found. As a Windows user,
>> I have no ide what's JACK for, and searching the Net yields some pages
>> describing JACK from developer's point of view, no end-user,
>> non-technical howto exists AFAIK. I think if I get specialized distro
>> like Ubuntu Studio, no such dialogs should appear after install, this
>> should be configured during install.
>>     
> Jack is a daemon that provides connection services between various applications.
> If you have Ubuntu Studio installed, in the menus look for "Jack
> Control". After that all you need to do is hit the start button. If
> everything goes well, its display will say "Started". After that you
> can use Jack-supporting software. You can create connections between
> various applications (rerouting inputs and outputs) with the "Connect"
> button.
>
> There is also a very helpful, generic mailing group called Linux Audio
> Users in lau.linuxaudio.org, I would recommend subscribing to that
> mailing group since quite a lot of linux and audio creation questions
> and answers happen there.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:49:56 +0100
> From: <hollunder at gmx.at>
> Subject: Re: change background colors in JACK?
> To: ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20081102094956.017e2375 at USHM.mozart.uni-klu.ac.at>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:21:01 -0700
> "Paul DeShaw" <pauldeshaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I believe this has been asked before, but so far I have not seen an
>> answer.  If I missed it, forgive me for asking again.
>>
>> When I open JACK, much of it is completely illegible, because of the
>> dark text on a dark background.  I can't read the labels on the tabs
>> in the Connect window, nor can I see the lines showing the
>> connections.  Changing GNOME themes doesn't affect it.  I have also
>> tried customizing the Ubuntu Studio theme in various ways, but I can't
>> seem to change those colors.  I have this trouble on my desktop, with
>> an old CRT monitor and low-end ATI graphics.  On my Apple laptop,
>> Ubuntu Studio is stunning, especially with Compriz.  It's just the
>> desktop where there's a problem.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Paul in Seattle
>>
>>     
>
> Hi Paul.
> Since qackctl (the application you use to control jack) is a qt
> application you might need to change the appearance for
> qt-applications. I don't know how the applications to do this are
> called but I'm sure you can find out.
>
> Philipp
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:59:56 +0100
> From: <hollunder at gmx.at>
> Subject: Re: First impressions - what's JACK?
> To: ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20081102095956.448f9ab3 at USHM.mozart.uni-klu.ac.at>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 07:40:40 +0100
> Tomas Valusek <tvalusek at seznam.cz> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm a music teacher. I'm visually impaired, but don't need to use 
>> assistive technologies, I prefer to utilize various system settings
>> such as varying font sizes, altering color schemes, or using
>> light-weight magnifiers, one of which is built directly into X server
>> - ability to have smaller screen resolution than desktop size. But
>> this doesn't seem to work in 8.10, Alt+grey+ and Alt+gray- don't
>> respond as expected.
>>     
>
> There are even blind people using linux for audio production, so it's
> possible with some effort. And those magnifiers are really handy, stuff
> tends to be far too small nowadays.
>
>   
>> But that's not why I write this post. Music software in general is
>> very demanding to ... sight, a very strange thing considering the
>> result is meant to be perceived by ear. Windows music creation
>> software is very expensive, and after working with it for several
>> hours my eyes hurt badly from constant chasing of mouse pointer. I
>> watch Linux since its bearth in 1991 and from time to time I have
>> tried various distros. Ubuntu Studio is very attractive to me because
>> 1. as a free software, I can use it anywhere not caring about
>> software activation or any other license matters, and 2. I hope I can
>> eventually get a music creation tool which would suit my needs - by
>> providing feedback to developers.
>>
>> But currently, I feel tossed away by Ubuntu Studio - if I run apps
>> like MusE or Rosegarden, they complain JACK is not found. As a
>> Windows user, I have no ide what's JACK for, and searching the Net
>> yields some pages describing JACK from developer's point of view, no
>> end-user, non-technical howto exists AFAIK. I think if I get
>> specialized distro like Ubuntu Studio, no such dialogs should appear
>> after install, this should be configured during install.
>>     
>
> Jack is a low-latency soundserver, comparable to asio if you want, but
> it also lets you connect audio and midi applications in a flexible
> manner.
> Some applications start jack themselves, one of them is ardour.
> The general problem is that jack needs to be configured for ones
> hardware to work properly and the user needs some knowledge of what it
> is.
>
>
>   
>> User docs of Ubuntu Studio are heavily outdated and incomplete, an 
>> article about audio apps has just the heading saying JACK and JACK
>> apps, but nothing is written about this subject. I wanted to look
>> into forums, but after clicking a linke labeled Genearl help, no
>> "studio" string is found on that page. Yes, there is Multimedia
>> production forum, but there should be specific Ubuntu Studio forum
>> with "studio" in its name, where distro-specific issues should be
>> discussed.
>>     
>
> I know that the docs are outdated. I attempted to write a short
> tutorial for firsttime jack users but lost interest, try to find it on
> the wiki, it's called jackquickstart or something.
>
> Multimediaproduction is the category for ubuntu studio, I think they
> chose this to show that ubuntu and ubuntu studio is mostly the same and
> not a completely different distro.
>
> Best regards,
> 	Philipp
>
>   
>> Nevertheless, I'm not going to give up, since I'd like to create
>> music without my eyes hurting :-)
>>
>> Best Regards.
>>
>> Tomas Valusek
>>
>>     
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:11:18 +0000
> From: Alex Montgomery <apmontgomery at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Removing Timidity
> To: Alex Montgomery <apmontgomery at gmail.com>
> Cc: "ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com"
> 	<ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <6DD2200D-0821-45D0-A8EC-276BDC8AC0CA at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> I tried removing timidity but apparently hydrogen depends on it, and  
> will segfault without it. I removed both timidity and hydrogen and  
> then reinstalled hydrogen (in case it was a dependency problem) but  
> hydrogen still segfaults. Looks like I need to keep timidity after all.
> -- Alex
>
> On Nov 1, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Alex Montgomery <apmontgomery at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hello,
>> I couldn't find this info in the mailing list archive, but excuse me  
>> if I've managed to repeat someone else's question.
>> Is there a good reason for me to keep timidity on my system if I  
>> only intend to do Midi through rosegarden and Qsynth? Is there a  
>> reason why that combo is an inferior choice?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -- Alex
>>     
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:24:33 +0100
> From: "mentoj_dija at gmx.de" <mentoj_dija at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: change background colors in JACK?
> To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
> 	<ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <490D9C01.9060708 at gmx.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> is a gtk+ version of jackctl in development?
>
>
> hollunder at gmx.at wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:21:01 -0700
>> "Paul DeShaw" <pauldeshaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I believe this has been asked before, but so far I have not seen an
>>> answer.  If I missed it, forgive me for asking again.
>>>
>>> When I open JACK, much of it is completely illegible, because of the
>>> dark text on a dark background.  I can't read the labels on the tabs
>>> in the Connect window, nor can I see the lines showing the
>>> connections.  Changing GNOME themes doesn't affect it.  I have also
>>> tried customizing the Ubuntu Studio theme in various ways, but I can't
>>> seem to change those colors.  I have this trouble on my desktop, with
>>> an old CRT monitor and low-end ATI graphics.  On my Apple laptop,
>>> Ubuntu Studio is stunning, especially with Compriz.  It's just the
>>> desktop where there's a problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Paul in Seattle
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>> Hi Paul.
>> Since qackctl (the application you use to control jack) is a qt
>> application you might need to change the appearance for
>> qt-applications. I don't know how the applications to do this are
>> called but I'm sure you can find out.
>>
>> Philipp
>>
>>   
>>     
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:26:57 +0100
> From: Tomas Valusek <tvalusek at seznam.cz>
> Subject: Re: First impressions - what's JACK?
> To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
> 	<ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <490DAAA1.5060709 at seznam.cz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hello,
>
> Hakan Koseoglu napsal(a):
>   
>> Jack is a daemon that provides connection services between various applications.
>> If you have Ubuntu Studio installed, in the menus look for "Jack
>> Control". After that all you need to do is hit the start button. If
>> everything goes well, its display will say "Started". After that you
>> can use Jack-supporting software. You can create connections between
>> various applications (rerouting inputs and outputs) with the "Connect"
>> button.
>>     
>
> Thanks for explanation. Is it possible to configure JACK to start itself 
> automatically during boot?
>
>   
>> There is also a very helpful, generic mailing group called Linux Audio
>> Users in lau.linuxaudio.org, I would recommend subscribing to that
>> mailing group since quite a lot of linux and audio creation questions
>> and answers happen there.
>>     
>
> Yes, I'm subscribed to this group already.
>
> Tomas Valusek
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:32:34 +0100
> From: Tomas Valusek <tvalusek at seznam.cz>
> Subject: Re: First impressions - what's JACK?
> To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
> 	<ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <490DABF2.1010600 at seznam.cz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hello,
>
> hollunder at gmx.at napsal(a):
>   
>> There are even blind people using linux for audio production, so it's
>> possible with some effort. And those magnifiers are really handy, stuff
>> tends to be far too small nowadays.
>>     
>
> Yes, but I'm somwhere in-between - I prefer to work visually, but my 
> sight is not good enough to go on without some appearance adjustements.
>
>   
>> Multimediaproduction is the category for ubuntu studio, I think they
>> chose this to show that ubuntu and ubuntu studio is mostly the same and
>> not a completely different distro.
>>     
>
> Maybe it would be helpful to extend its name tu include "studio" string 
> - you know, I go "Ubuntu Studio", so I searched for "studio" string. 
> Maybe extending groups name with "(Ubuntu Studio)" would be just good 
> enough.
>
> Tomas Valusek
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:26:17 -0600
> From: Sean Darby <sean at seandarby.com>
> Subject: Re: Selecting Hardware for Music Production
> To: Sean Edwards <cybersean3000 at yahoo.com>,	Ubuntu Studio Users Help
> 	and Discussion	<ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1225635977.6378.2.camel at gv.hsd1.il.comcast.net.>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>   
>>> I'd like to record bass guitar, acoustic guitars, electric guitars,
>>>       
>> electronic drumset, midi keyboard, vocals, occasional woodwind/brass
>> instruments.
>>
>> Are you going to play all these instruments yourself as separate
>> tracks, or will other people play them as you record?
>>
>> -=Sean Edwards=-
>>     
>
> Both. In some cases I'll play them myself, in other cases there will be
> 3 to 5 people playing together.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>