Desktop change consequences
Pete Wright
pnwright at gmail.com
Wed Apr 10 17:35:25 UTC 2013
Thanks, Ben
I do have 2.5 linux setups (don't have full-time access to the third, so
2.5).
The rub is they are not identical hardware and do not behave the same with
identical software, which I gave up trying to achieve.
So I am now running Ubuntu 12.10 on one, Ubuntu Studio 12.10 on my main
machine, and a hodge-podge mostly 12.04 on a mini laptop which is
ethernetted into my main one..
Am I correct that SUDO gives temporary super-user status (but not root)?
I had what had to have been one of the rare few personally-owned Unix
machines back in the early '80s, and am trying to dredge up and/or replace
the old knowledge, after being mainly in the windows world from around 1984
until late last year..
Bizarre, I admit.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Andrew Huys <musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com>wrote:
> Beware of "sudo", it gives you godlike powers...
>
> the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two
> computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school machine,
> the other being your experimental setup. Try the new commands on the
> experimental machine, in case they don't work out like you hope. Once
> you're comfortable with them, use them on the production machine.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Ben
> On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright wrote:
>
> Thanks, Andrew.
> You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels.
> cheers
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys <musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> "I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to
>> keep it up to date?" If you use update-manager and have automatic updates
>> turned on, no, you do not need to use synaptic for anything.
>>
>> However, Synaptic is *very* useful when you're searching for packages to
>> install and maybe don't know the names (if you dislike the
>> software-center). Synaptic is faster on my older machines (IBM/Lenovo
>> T43p, etc.) than software center, as it does not have fancy graphics,
>> ratings, reviews, etc. Also, being able to install multiple items just by
>> checking the boxes and clicking [apply] seems easier to me than finding
>> each individual software in software center.
>>
>> As far as updating goes, I almost never use the "update-manager" (had an
>> issue with it at one time, don't remember what, but stopped using it then),
>> I find it easier to do via command-line:
>>
>> sudo apt-get update
>> Sudo apt-get upgrade
>>
>> I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just to keep on
>> top of things.
>>
>> -AND Huys
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Alf.
>> So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from the
>> repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date?
>> Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it completely
>> irrelevant/obsolete?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund <alf at mellomrommet.no>wrote:
>>
>>> No,
>>>
>>> Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will always ask.
>>> It just means updates are not taken care of by canonical's Ubuntu team and
>>> that they may (or may not) be provided by the community.
>>>
>>> Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but not for
>>> Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as Microsoft won't let you
>>> download software they don't own through their channels.
>>>
>>> But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software repositories
>>> is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and installing programs is so
>>> simple and updates automatically taken care of (if there are any).
>>>
>>> Alf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates automatically, but
>>>> many
>>>> items in the Software Centre say "Updates not provided by Ubuntu...may
>>>> be
>>>> provided by community" or something like that. Are these
>>>> packages/programs
>>>> automagically updating themselves in the background? Even the main
>>>> Ubuntu
>>>> thingy asks me before updating.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund <alf at mellomrommet.no
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what you mean here (updates not included)? Unless it's
>>>>> become
>>>>> abandonware (no more in development), updating should be automatically
>>>>> taken care of.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway glad to hear it was what you looked for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09. april 2013 13:54, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again, Alf
>>>>>> Synapse aboard and seems just the ticket.
>>>>>> Also, after this morning's update, I find I am now able to put my own
>>>>>> dubious artwork on the desktop.
>>>>>> I see Synapse updates are not included in Ubuntu; will Synaptic do? I
>>>>>> run
>>>>>> it periodically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete Wright <pnwright at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And as to desktop pic, I think that is what I did and it didn't
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>> my computer, I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Alf Haakon Lund <
>>>>>>> alf at mellomrommet.no
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't use unity, so I might be off target. But "heads up search"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>> like what synapse is doing for me. It's a small app that finds
>>>>>>>> anything,
>>>>>>>> files or programs. Hit ctrl-space to launch, type a few letters
>>>>>>>> (just f
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> first suggestion is firefox, first suggestion adapts to what is most
>>>>>>>> used).
>>>>>>>> Navigate through suggestions with arrows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Synapse is available in software center and synaptic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for changing desktop image, for me right-click on the desktop and
>>>>>>>> choosing desktop settings gets me there. Or [ctrl-space], [de] and
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> suggestion is desktop settings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck on ubuntu studio, and never be afraid to ask!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>> Alf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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