Seen by keen eyed family member in Bentalls in Bracknell, before xmas, and now sitting on the desk next to me, is a 'Ubuntu' mug. It is Big - 500ml, so my liter is half full rather than half empty :-) http://shop.whateverittakes.org/product.php?xProd=19&xSec=2 -- alan cocks Ubuntu user #10391 Linux user #360648