From linuxman at avoura.com  Wed Sep  2 10:12:45 2009
From: linuxman at avoura.com (David King)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:12:45 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Printing problem
In-Reply-To: <4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com>	<op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com>	<op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com>
Message-ID: <4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>

Does anyone have any suggestions on this?

Also, I have not received any mail from this list for a few days. Is the 
list still active or are there technical problems?

David King



David King wrote:
> They are all set to A4. If I try to print something that is set to silly 
> US Letter size, the printer does not print anything unless I adjust a 
> lever at the back.
>
> The problem I have is that the printout does not come out until another 
> page or document is sent to the printer, and then the first one comes out.
>
> Maybe it is a printer driver problem? If so, any suggestions to diagnose it?
>
>
> David King
>
>
> Steve wrote:
>   
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:19:16 +0100, David King <linuxman at avoura.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> The problem seems to occur with OpenOffice, Thunderbird, Firefox,
>>> Digikam, MS Word 2003.
>>>
>>> At the moment I seem to have the problem with all print jobs, except
>>> when I printed something from Sunbird.
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>> Are all the programs/documents set to the correct/same paper size?
>>
>> I spent yesterday sorting out a problems like this on a windows network.  
>> Once we had everything default to A4 and reformatted a few documents there  
>> haven't been any more problems
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
>   


From hrickards at l33tmyst.com  Wed Sep  2 10:21:41 2009
From: hrickards at l33tmyst.com (Harry Rickards)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:21:41 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Where is everyone!?
In-Reply-To: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A9E3925.8080602@l33tmyst.com>

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On 09/02/09 10:18, javadayaz wrote:
> Is this list still active?
> 
> Ive recently noticed i dont get that many emails from this list anymore! I
> wonder if people have moved on to other lists or just dont need that much
> help anymore.
> 
> 
Have you recently subscribed to any really busy mailing lists? After
subscribing to debian-user, I started to think that no-one was posting
to GLLUG then realised the posts were just being drowned out in the
traffic of debian-user.

- -- 
Thanks
Harry Rickards <hrickards at l33tmyst.com>

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From djones.dancol at googlemail.com  Wed Sep  2 10:21:47 2009
From: djones.dancol at googlemail.com (David Jones)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:21:47 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Where is everyone!?
In-Reply-To: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A9E392B.4030601@googlemail.com>

I've seen two messages today asking if the list is still active, but 
nothing for a couple of days previously.

I would guess that because its summer, children are just ending their 
school holidays or starting back at school that people have been quite 
busy over the last week or so and not had much time for mailing lists 
and queries.

Dave

javadayaz wrote:
> Is this list still active?
>  
> Ive recently noticed i dont get that many emails from this list anymore! 
> I wonder if people have moved on to other lists or just dont need that 
> much help anymore.
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> 
> Javad
> 


From lake54 at lake54.com  Wed Sep  2 11:08:11 2009
From: lake54 at lake54.com (James Milligan)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:08:11 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Where is everyone!?
In-Reply-To: <A721C1298D8E9B488624A6251FC993EF0D896672@exchange.wnet.mfs.misys.co.uk>
References: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com><4A9E392B.4030601@googlemail.com>
	<4d950e240909020224v12d2134fwab9e6b734d31ede9@mail.gmail.com>
	<A721C1298D8E9B488624A6251FC993EF0D896672@exchange.wnet.mfs.misys.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4C660FA3-FEC2-4F2D-B044-30BAB2569506@lake54.com>

> I was just curious because the number of help emails has gone really  
> done. But that probably could be attributed to what David just  
> referred to !
>
>
>
>
>
> I think we?ve just reached the stage where Ubuntu is perfect!
>

Yep - and even new people are getting somewhere with it! I've set up  
my own webserver which will soon be available externally. Used Ubuntu  
JeOS Server. Terminal here we come :-)

James

From Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 11:41:56 2009
From: Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk (Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:41:56 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Disk Benchmark
Message-ID: <A721C1298D8E9B488624A6251FC993EF0D896673@exchange.wnet.mfs.misys.co.uk>

As the list seems to have less traffic I've got a poser:

My work PC is very slow with disk access. Any time I start copying large
files, or unzipping anything etc. it will grind to a halt.

It seems to be a faulty drive or disk cache etc. but I don't want to
have to install Windows to prove it.

Can anyone recommend any disk benchmarks or any settings I can check to
ensure DMA is turned on for the HDD? Otherwise I will have to install
Windows to prove the fault. If the fault isn't present in Windows it
will show a problem with Ubuntu.

The drive is SATA, the PC is about 18 months old. When trying to set DMA
I get:

root at darrenm-desktop:~# hdparm -d /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
 HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

Apparently this is because DMA is always on for SATA disks so isn't
really relevant anymore?

The slowdown seems to be CPU related which leads me to think it's DMA
related. The odd thing is the timings seem to be OK?

root at darrenm-desktop:~# hdparm -t /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  238 MB in  3.02 seconds =  78.79 MB/sec
root at darrenm-desktop:~# hdparm -T /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   2248 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1123.65 MB/sec

Any advice on the matter will be gratefully received. (more info below)

Thanks.
Darren


Disk controller:

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE
Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8179
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
        I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
        I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
        I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
        I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
        I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16]
        Kernel driver in use: ata_piix

00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family)
SATA IDE Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 2601
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
        I/O ports at b800 [size=8]
        I/O ports at b400 [size=4]
        I/O ports at b000 [size=8]
        I/O ports at a800 [size=4]
        I/O ports at a400 [size=16]
        Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 2
        Kernel driver in use: ata_piix


HDD:

/dev/sda:

ATA device, with non-removable media
        Model Number:       WDC WD1600AAJS-00WAA0                   
        Serial Number:      WD-WMAS20360351                         
        Firmware Revision:  58.01D58                                
        Transport:          Serial, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA
Rev 2.5
Standards:

        Supported: 8 7 6 5

        Likely used: 8

Configuration:

        Logical         max     current

        cylinders       16383   16383

        heads           16      16

        sectors/track   63      63

        --

        CHS current addressable sectors:   16514064

        LBA    user addressable sectors:  268435455

        LBA48  user addressable sectors:  312581808

        device size with M = 1024*1024:      152627 MBytes

        device size with M = 1000*1000:      160041 MBytes (160 GB)

Capabilities:

        LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)

        Queue depth: 32

        Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, with device specific
minimum 
        R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16  Current = 16

        Recommended acoustic management value: 128, current value: 254

        DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5
*udma6      
             Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns

        PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4

             Cycle time: no flow control=120ns  IORDY flow control=120ns

Commands/features:

        Enabled Supported:

           *    SMART feature set

                Security Mode feature set

           *    Power Management feature set

           *    Write cache

           *    Look-ahead

           *    Host Protected Area feature set

           *    WRITE_BUFFER command

           *    READ_BUFFER command

           *    NOP cmd

           *    DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE

                Power-Up In Standby feature set

           *    SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up

                SET_MAX security extension

                Automatic Acoustic Management feature set

           *    48-bit Address feature set

           *    Device Configuration Overlay feature set

           *    Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE

           *    FLUSH_CACHE_EXT

           *    SMART error logging

           *    SMART self-test

           *    General Purpose Logging feature set

           *    64-bit World wide name

           *    Segmented DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE

           *    SATA-I signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)

           *    SATA-II signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)

           *    Native Command Queueing (NCQ)

           *    Host-initiated interface power management

           *    Phy event counters

                DMA Setup Auto-Activate optimization

           *    Software settings preservation

           *    SMART Command Transport (SCT) feature set

           *    SCT Long Sector Access (AC1)

           *    SCT LBA Segment Access (AC2)

           *    SCT Error Recovery Control (AC3)

           *    SCT Features Control (AC4)

           *    SCT Data Tables (AC5)

                unknown 206[12] (vendor specific)

                unknown 206[13] (vendor specific)

Security:

        Master password revision code = 65534

                supported

        not     enabled

        not     locked

                frozen

        not     expired: security count

                supported: enhanced erase

        40min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 40min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE
UNIT. 
Logical Unit WWN Device Identifier: 50014ee055d58541

        NAA             : 5

        IEEE OUI        : 14ee

        Unique ID       : 055d58541

Checksum: correct  


From hbartels at i-neda.com  Wed Sep  2 12:30:56 2009
From: hbartels at i-neda.com (huet bartels)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:30:56 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com>	<op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com>	<op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com>  <4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>
Message-ID: <1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>

Dear all,

Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.

If so could you recommend the best one to purchase.

Thank you in advance

Huet Bartels



From DaveWalker at ubuntu.com  Wed Sep  2 12:37:23 2009
From: DaveWalker at ubuntu.com (Dave Walker)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:37:23 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com>	<op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com>	<op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com>
	<4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>
	<1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
Message-ID: <4A9E58F3.5060603@ubuntu.com>

huet bartels wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
> Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.
>
> If so could you recommend the best one to purchase.
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Huet Bartels
>
>
>   
Hi Huet,

http://www.3dongle4free.co.uk/

?5 as P&P iirc. Pay as you go, on 3.  Can easily be unlocked to work on
any network.  Works well on Ubuntu.

Kind Regards,
Dave Walker


From Douglas_c_1876 at hotmail.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 13:02:37 2009
From: Douglas_c_1876 at hotmail.co.uk (Douglas Chanda-Campbell)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:02:37 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com>	<op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com>	<op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com>  <4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>
	<1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP61C794A4C1459BA3346C429EF00@phx.gbl>

Dear Huet

I use the Vodafone HSDPA USB Stick, up to 7.2 speed, on Ubuntu 9.04
running on an Ei 1201 laptop.

All I do is plug and play and it comes up in the wireless network
options.

Good reception where I have used it in the UK.

Douglas



From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 13:32:27 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:32:27 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com>	<op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com>	<op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com>
	<4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>
	<1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
Message-ID: <4A9E65DB.5030103@esdelle.co.uk>

huet bartels wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
> Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.
>
> If so could you recommend the best one to purchase.
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Huet Bartels
>
>   
I have a Vodafone 3G dongle on Pay As You Go and it works great, well 
assuming I can get reception (I've got patchy reception for all networks 
in my area).  I have managed though in some areas to get 3G and HSDPA 
(which is faster than 3G) and it works really well.

I have a feeling that most providers use the same modems now these 
days.  My modem is a Huawei K3565.  I've also tried a Huawei E220 on 
Three and that also works fine.

As far as which network to go on, I'd look at the coverage maps for each 
provider.  Would you want to use it out and about or at home as say a 
broadband replacement?

It's also worth considering if you want to go on contract or pre-pay.  
Being on Vodafone pre-pay for the modem, ?15 gives me 1GB allowance but 
the allowance doesn't expire
 which means if I only use say 100MB in a month, the remaining 900MB can 
be carried on until it's used up.  Then I simply top up again.  Although 
it's a bit more expensive than Three I find it fits my usage well (I've 
had the modem going on 5 months and not topped it up yet, I'm still on 
the original 1GB that came with the modem).

On the other hand, with Three, 1GB lasts for 30 days or until you use it 
up (whichever comes sooner).  If you don't use the 1GB then you will 
loose it at the end of the 30 day period.  However if you do use 1GB a 
month then it may worth out better as it's cheaper than Vodafone.

I would also suggest considering T-Mobile.  They do an option where you 
can pay per day, week or month.  IIRC it's something like ?2 a day, ?5 a 
week or ?15 a month which is 'unlimited' although I gather their idea of 
unlimited is if you go over 3GB (might be 1GB) then they will throttle 
the speed down.  I haven't used T-Mobile so I can't comment how good or 
bad it is.

O2 also do a similar deal to T-Mobile where you get a fixed allowance 
for a day, week or month (and you pay for a day, week or month) but I 
have heard about outages on O2 and I gather the coverage isn't as good.  
However your millage may vary.

Rob



From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 13:34:12 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:34:12 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <4A9E58F3.5060603@ubuntu.com>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com>	<op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com>	<op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com>	<4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>	<1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
	<4A9E58F3.5060603@ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4A9E6644.1080106@esdelle.co.uk>

Dave Walker wrote:
> Hi Huet,
>
> http://www.3dongle4free.co.uk/
>
> ?5 as P&P iirc. Pay as you go, on 3.  Can easily be unlocked to work on
> any network.  Works well on Ubuntu.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Dave Walker
>   
That's a good offer.  Can say I've seen them any cheaper unless you go 
on contract.

Rob



From hbartels at i-neda.com  Wed Sep  2 13:35:12 2009
From: hbartels at i-neda.com (huet bartels)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:35:12 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <4A9E58F3.5060603@ubuntu.com>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com>	<op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com>	<op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com> <4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>
	<1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
	<4A9E58F3.5060603@ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <1251894912.7322.18.camel@hbartels-laptop>

Thanks guys,

That is a great help.  It is also good to know that Vodafone works as
the dongle may well be used in Europe.  Will check the 3 Network for
Europe coverage (mainly Norway)

Thanks again for taking the time to reply.

regards

Huet
 
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:37 +0100, Dave Walker wrote:
> huet bartels wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
> > Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.
> >
> > If so could you recommend the best one to purchase.
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Huet Bartels
> >
> >
> >   
> Hi Huet,
> 
> http://www.3dongle4free.co.uk/
> 
> ?5 as P&P iirc. Pay as you go, on 3.  Can easily be unlocked to work on
> any network.  Works well on Ubuntu.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Dave Walker
> 



From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 13:37:07 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:37:07 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Where is everyone!?
In-Reply-To: <4A9E392B.4030601@googlemail.com>
References: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A9E392B.4030601@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <4A9E66F3.5060309@esdelle.co.uk>

David Jones wrote:
> I've seen two messages today asking if the list is still active, but 
> nothing for a couple of days previously.
>
> I would guess that because its summer, children are just ending their 
> school holidays or starting back at school that people have been quite 
> busy over the last week or so and not had much time for mailing lists 
> and queries.
>
> Dave
>   
Yep, I've had a busy few days, it was my birthday last week, the step 
kids are visiting and it was my wedding anniversary yesterday, I've been 
trying to fit all that in and not really been checking my e-mails much 
(so I have a whole load to catch up on).

Rob



From alanslists at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 14:43:58 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:43:58 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com>	<op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com>	<op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com>
	<4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>
	<1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
Message-ID: <h7lsqs$qel$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 02/09/09 12:30, huet bartels wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
> Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.
>
> If so could you recommend the best one to purchase.
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Huet Bartels
>
>

I use an Option ICON 225 dongle on the Orange network.

Works fine in Jaunty and (mostly) Karmic.

We did a lot of work on 3G last year for CarPhone Warehouse and Elonex. 
Most common dongles work with little or no trouble on Linux with recent 
kernels.

Hauwei were a bit of a PITA as they would release a new model but keep 
the same USB id. Doh.

Alan



From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 17:27:18 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:27:18 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <h7lsqs$qel$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com> <op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe> 
	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com> <op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com> <4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>
	<1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop> 
	<h7lsqs$qel$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909020927g2723b944v7b060ee4678c5e2@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/2 Alan Lord (News) <alanslists at gmail.com>:
> On 02/09/09 12:30, huet bartels wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
>> Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.
>>
>> If so could you recommend the best one to purchase.
>>
>> Thank you in advance
>>
>> Huet Bartels
>>
>>
>
> I use an Option ICON 225 dongle on the Orange network.
>
> Works fine in Jaunty and (mostly) Karmic.
>
> We did a lot of work on 3G last year for CarPhone Warehouse and Elonex.
> Most common dongles work with little or no trouble on Linux with recent
> kernels.
>
> Hauwei were a bit of a PITA as they would release a new model but keep
> the same USB id. Doh.
>
> Alan
>
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>

DO NOT go for a ZTE modem (e.g. the ZTE 627 that 3 do). They don't
work out-of-the box with Ubuntu and are a royal pain (though
apparently the included software works, though that's a third-party
app and driver which don't work on 64-bit). The situation will improve
but at the moment something along the lines of an E160 is your best
bet.

Have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G


From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 18:34:26 2009
From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (Ronnie Tucker)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:34:26 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <f63db7860909020927g2723b944v7b060ee4678c5e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com> <op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com>
	<op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com>
	<4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>	<1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
	<h7lsqs$qel$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<f63db7860909020927g2723b944v7b060ee4678c5e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A9EACA2.3060100@ronnietucker.co.uk>



Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> 2009/9/2 Alan Lord (News) <alanslists at gmail.com>:
>   
>> On 02/09/09 12:30, huet bartels wrote:
>>     
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
>>> Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.
>>>
>>> If so could you recommend the best one to purchase.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance
>>>
>>> Huet Bartels
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> I use an Option ICON 225 dongle on the Orange network.
>>
>> Works fine in Jaunty and (mostly) Karmic.
>>
>> We did a lot of work on 3G last year for CarPhone Warehouse and Elonex.
>> Most common dongles work with little or no trouble on Linux with recent
>> kernels.
>>
>> Hauwei were a bit of a PITA as they would release a new model but keep
>> the same USB id. Doh.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>
>>     
>
> DO NOT go for a ZTE modem (e.g. the ZTE 627 that 3 do). They don't
> work out-of-the box with Ubuntu and are a royal pain (though
> apparently the included software works, though that's a third-party
> app and driver which don't work on 64-bit). The situation will improve
> but at the moment something along the lines of an E160 is your best
> bet.
>
> Have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
>   

A work colleague of mine was given a ZTE dongle for his birthday and it 
was indeed a royal pain to get working for him. It doesn't mount as a 
USB storage device (which it is) nor was as a modem (which it also is).

After much faffing about on the intarwebz I found two deb packages to 
install which gets the thing (sem-)working.

The ironic thing is: once it (finally!) mounted as a USB device, the 
blasted thing has Linux drivers on it! Grrrrr....

Oh, and the 3 coverage (here in Glasgow anyway) is utter rubbish.

-- 
Ronnie Tucker
ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk
http://RonnieTucker.co.uk

TWITTER: twitter.com/ronnietucker
MSN: ronnietucker at hotmail.com

Registered Linux User # 456627
Registered Ubuntu User # 18227



From matt at mattjones.me.uk  Thu Sep  3 06:54:47 2009
From: matt at mattjones.me.uk (Matt Jones)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 06:54:47 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Throw a release party to get free software.
Message-ID: <dcdb46380909022254x67205eccy5bbb7c177751fb52@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder where they got this idea from?
http://houseparty.com/windows7

They do seem to look very excited at installing Windows 7. Then again,
they may be wiping Vista...


Matt.


From matt at mattjones.me.uk  Thu Sep  3 21:30:15 2009
From: matt at mattjones.me.uk (Matt Jones)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 21:30:15 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
Message-ID: <dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>

If he is only going to use it a small amount, then Vodafone offer the
best deal, top up ?15 for 1GB. Then use it until it runs out. With
everyone else, your 1GB of data only lasts 30days, even if you haven't
used it all.

Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the
Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the
drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones.

Do you have a link to the laptop?

Matt.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Jon Taylor<jonptaylor at btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I?m looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a
> laptop and broadband dongle. We?ve (sort of) found a laptop that we?re going
> to put Jaunty onto but I?d like to know if there are any ISP?s we should
> look at and also any we should avoid?
>
> Also are there issues with dongles and Ubuntu or is it going to be plain
> sailing? Please bear in mind that this is going to be for a recently retired
> person who has only ever had MS OS?s so he definitely won?t understand
> terminal or other technical stuff. I?ll probably be the one setting it all
> up for him.
>
> I?d be really grateful for any advice and/or warnings of potential hazards.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jon Taylor
>
> 1st Choice Bathrooms
>
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From ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk  Thu Sep  3 21:57:00 2009
From: ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk (Tony Pursell)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:57:00 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>,
	<dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA03BAC.7447.1002C91@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>

My wife's Vodaphone dongle just works when I plug it into my EEEPC 
running Jaunty 9.04.  We bought it about six months ago and still have 
?12 of the inclusive ?15 left.  In Windows you  get a desktop app 
which gives you information about useage, connection speed, etc, 
which you don't get in Linux.  I guess its not the cheapest deal, but it 
suites our very occasional use.  If your father in law is going to be a 
heavy user, you should look at the other pay as you go deals and 
possibly pay monthly contracts (or get him fixed line broadband)

Tony

On 3 Sep 2009 at 21:30, Matt Jones wrote:

> 
> If he is only going to use it a small amount, then Vodafone offer the
> best deal, top up ?15 for 1GB. Then use it until it runs out. With
> everyone else, your 1GB of data only lasts 30days, even if you haven't
> used it all.
> 
> Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the
> Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the
> drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones.
> 
> Do you have a link to the laptop?
> 
> Matt.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Jon Taylor<jonptaylor at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I?m looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a
> > laptop and broadband dongle. We?ve (sort of) found a laptop that we?re going
> > to put Jaunty onto but I?d like to know if there are any ISP?s we should
> > look at and also any we should avoid?
> >
> > Also are there issues with dongles and Ubuntu or is it going to be plain
> > sailing? Please bear in mind that this is going to be for a recently retired
> > person who has only ever had MS OS?s so he definitely won?t understand
> > terminal or other technical stuff. I?ll probably be the one setting it all
> > up for him.
> >
> > I?d be really grateful for any advice and/or warnings of potential hazards.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jon Taylor
> >
> > 1st Choice Bathrooms
> >
> > jon at 1stchoicebathrooms.co.uk
> >
> > www.1stchoicebathrooms.co.uk
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > intended recipient.
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From dreamfish at dreamfish.org.uk  Thu Sep  3 22:53:39 2009
From: dreamfish at dreamfish.org.uk (Robert Longstaff)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:53:39 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <4AA03BAC.7447.1002C91@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>,
	<dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA03BAC.7447.1002C91@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AA03AE3.2000307@dreamfish.org.uk>

> Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the
> Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the
> drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones.

The Vodafone K3565 works OK on Jaunty but I did need
to change some of the default settings in Network
Manager.

One you've plugged it in and created a 'Vodafone
(pre-pay)' entry, edit the settings to change the APN
to 'pp.internet' and restrict the allowed authentication
methods to:

PAP
CHAP
MSCHAP v2


Robert.


From christopherrowson at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 23:14:13 2009
From: christopherrowson at gmail.com (Chris Rowson)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 23:14:13 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <4AA03AE3.2000307@dreamfish.org.uk>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
	<dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA03BAC.7447.1002C91@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>
	<4AA03AE3.2000307@dreamfish.org.uk>
Message-ID: <d6c346600909031514v39d6c854h90dc08251a1617e4@mail.gmail.com>

>> Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the
>> Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the
>> drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones.
>
> The Vodafone K3565 works OK on Jaunty but I did need
> to change some of the default settings in Network
> Manager.
>
> One you've plugged it in and created a 'Vodafone
> (pre-pay)' entry, edit the settings to change the APN
> to 'pp.internet' and restrict the allowed authentication
> methods to:
>
> PAP
> CHAP
> MSCHAP v2


Back in the murky depths of time I wrote this tutorial on getting a 3G
USB modem to work with Ubuntu using the Vodaphone connect drivers.
I've not used this for a while but it *might* still be relevant today.

http://www.justuber.com/blog/2008/06/25/setting-up-your-huawei-e220-3g-usb-modem-on-ubuntu-three-uk/

Chris


From myotisone at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 06:43:59 2009
From: myotisone at gmail.com (Graham Smith)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 06:43:59 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
Message-ID: <2c75873c0909032243n1b0a4d80h4d1efe137612b2a4@mail.gmail.com>

Jon

> I?m looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a
> laptop and broadband dongle. We?ve (sort of) found a laptop that we?re going
> to put Jaunty onto but I?d like to know if there are any ISP?s we should
> look at and also any we should avoid?


I found that the 3-mobile  dongle works fine on my Asus eeepc 901 with
mint gloria (aka Jaunty) on it.  3-mobile  give 1gb a month at ?10.
(or if you are an existing customer, its ?5 a month)

 Mint automatically  found the dongle and identified the network.

However, if you look at the coverage maps, and I hadn't realised this,
you will see the coverage for mobile broadband is very different to
the mobile phone coverage. I had stupidly assumed that of I could get
a mobile phone signal I would get a broadband signal.

For example I pick up no broadband signal in my office or house(6 and
20 miles south of Bath), which now that I have checked is indicated on
the map as not being covered.  Indeed now looking at the map, there
are massive gaps in coverage, and its not just 3-mobile who have these
gaps, so I would check this, as there are lots of unexpected gaps.  On
the outskirts of Newport in South Wales, I picked up a signal fine
with the 3 dongle, but an 02 dongle couldn't find any signal.

In practice, in the 18 months of owning the dongle, I have only picked
up a signal three or four times. This has been across SW England,
South Wales, Central Scotland and North West Scotland.  In most of
these cases I could pick up a good mobile phone signal, but nothing at
all on broadband.

Graham


From alanslists at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 08:08:25 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:08:25 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
Message-ID: <h7qed9$r1e$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 03/09/09 21:17, Jon Taylor wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I?m looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a
> laptop and broadband dongle. We?ve (sort of) found a laptop that we?re
> going to put Jaunty onto but I?d like to know if there are any ISP?s we
> should look at and also any we should avoid?
>
> Also are there issues with dongles and Ubuntu or is it going to be plain
> sailing? Please bear in mind that this is going to be for a recently
> retired person who has only ever had MS OS?s so he definitely won?t
> understand terminal or other technical stuff. I?ll probably be the one
> setting it all up for him.

The 3G dongle subject was discussed *very* recently on this list. The 
last reply to the thread entitled "USB Wireless G3 Dongle" was only a 
day before your post. That response has lots of good info about which 
dongles work etc, but the basic answer is that most of the mainstream 
devices seem to be just fine. Huawei are probably the biggest 
manufacturer, ZTE is reported to not be straightforward.

If you look through the archive for the thread you'll find more detail: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2009-September/thread.html

Cheers

Al



From philwyett at gmx.com  Fri Sep  4 08:27:14 2009
From: philwyett at gmx.com (Philip Wyett)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:27:14 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
Message-ID: <1252049234.6494.4.camel@wyett-diamond>

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 21:17 +0100, Jon Taylor wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I?m looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a
> laptop and broadband dongle. We?ve (sort of) found a laptop that we?re
> going to put Jaunty onto but I?d like to know if there are any ISP?s
> we should look at and also any we should avoid?
> 
> Also are there issues with dongles and Ubuntu or is it going to be
> plain sailing? Please bear in mind that this is going to be for a
> recently retired person who has only ever had MS OS?s so he definitely
> won?t understand terminal or other technical stuff. I?ll probably be
> the one setting it all up for him.
> 
> I?d be really grateful for any advice and/or warnings of potential
> hazards.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jon
> 

Hi,

I use t-mobile (Huawei dongle) on laptops that 8.04 and up on. I have no
real issues using it bar one. To get 30 days of broadband at the fixed
?15 (3Gb download limit, but allows to to browse even when exceeded and
blocks downloads between 4pm and midnight) you have to SMS from the
device after purchasing the top up which makes you reliant on t-mobiles
Windows software. :-(

Regards

Phil
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From alanslists at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 08:39:08 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:39:08 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <1252049234.6494.4.camel@wyett-diamond>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
	<1252049234.6494.4.camel@wyett-diamond>
Message-ID: <h7qg6s$2d3$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 04/09/09 08:27, Philip Wyett wrote:
<snip />
>
> I use t-mobile (Huawei dongle) on laptops that 8.04 and up on. I have no
> real issues using it bar one. To get 30 days of broadband at the fixed
> ?15 (3Gb download limit, but allows to to browse even when exceeded and
> blocks downloads between 4pm and midnight) you have to SMS from the
> device after purchasing the top up which makes you reliant on t-mobiles
> Windows software. :-(

Have you tried wader? That supports SMS over 3G devices.

http://wader-project.org/

We funded some of the development ;-)

Al



From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Fri Sep  4 09:06:01 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:06:01 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
	<dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA0CA69.8070401@esdelle.co.uk>

Matt Jones wrote:
> If he is only going to use it a small amount, then Vodafone offer the
> best deal, top up ?15 for 1GB. Then use it until it runs out. With
> everyone else, your 1GB of data only lasts 30days, even if you haven't
> used it all.
>
> Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the
> Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the
> drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones.
>
> Do you have a link to the laptop?
>
> Matt.
>   
I can confirm the Vodafone modem is supported.  Once it's configured 
(which is just a case of following a wizard and selecting the provider 
in the case of the Vodafone Pay As You Go modem you'd select "Vodafone 
Topup and Go") then all you do is simply plug the modem in wait about 10 
seconds, click the network manager icon in the task bar and select the 
Vodafone connection.

I can't remember if the Vodafone modems have a money back guarantee or 
not, if not it's worth at least checking the coverage maps on Vodafone's 
web site to make sure you are in an area which is covered at least by 3G 
(ideally HSDPA).

Rob



From philwyett at gmx.com  Fri Sep  4 09:19:49 2009
From: philwyett at gmx.com (Philip Wyett)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:19:49 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <h7qg6s$2d3$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
	<1252049234.6494.4.camel@wyett-diamond>  <h7qg6s$2d3$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1252052389.6443.3.camel@wyett-diamond>

On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 08:39 +0100, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> On 04/09/09 08:27, Philip Wyett wrote:
> <snip />
> >
> > I use t-mobile (Huawei dongle) on laptops that 8.04 and up on. I have no
> > real issues using it bar one. To get 30 days of broadband at the fixed
> > ?15 (3Gb download limit, but allows to to browse even when exceeded and
> > blocks downloads between 4pm and midnight) you have to SMS from the
> > device after purchasing the top up which makes you reliant on t-mobiles
> > Windows software. :-(
> 
> Have you tried wader? That supports SMS over 3G devices.
> 
> http://wader-project.org/
> 
> We funded some of the development ;-)
> 
> Al
> 
> 

Thanks Alan. Got it installed and running on my work/main 8.04 laptop I
have with me and able to send an SMS to my phone. Will try with a top-up
tomorrow.

Many thanks

Regards

Phil
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From alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com  Fri Sep  4 09:45:25 2009
From: alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com (Alan Bell)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:45:25 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <4AA0CA69.8070401@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>	<dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA0CA69.8070401@esdelle.co.uk>
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Rob Beard wrote:
> Matt Jones wrote:
>   
>> If he is only going to use it a small amount, then Vodafone offer the
>> best deal, top up ?15 for 1GB. Then use it until it runs out. With
>> everyone else, your 1GB of data only lasts 30days, even if you haven't
>> used it all.
>>
>> Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the
>> Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the
>> drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones.
>>
>> Do you have a link to the laptop?
>>
>> Matt.
>>   
>>     
> I can confirm the Vodafone modem is supported.  Once it's configured 
> (which is just a case of following a wizard and selecting the provider 
> in the case of the Vodafone Pay As You Go modem you'd select "Vodafone 
> Topup and Go") then all you do is simply plug the modem in wait about 10 
> seconds, click the network manager icon in the task bar and select the 
> Vodafone connection.
>
> I can't remember if the Vodafone modems have a money back guarantee or 
> not, if not it's worth at least checking the coverage maps on Vodafone's 
> web site to make sure you are in an area which is covered at least by 3G 
> (ideally HSDPA).
>
> Rob
>
>
>   
The networks don't make dongles, they just rebrand them, and change the
hardware and supplier from time to time so there is no "vodaphone
dongle" as such. The main manufacturers you will come across are Huawei,
Option and ZTE and this will be printed somewhere on the underside of
the dongle in very small faint text. They really are quite simple
devices when they are working. They are basically modems and talk old
school Hayes AT commands. They tend to be seen as a few serial ports,
one for data, one for commands, sometimes some extra ones for reasons
that are not always apparent. The difficulty is that they start out in
useless mode, pretending to be a CDRom drive containing drivers for
defective operating systems that don't properly support them. These
drivers then flip the dongle into sensible modem mode and then carry on.
The crazy thing is that all the dongles have different commands to turn
them into modems and every time a new one comes out a new rule has to be
added to support it. The defective operating systems are fine as the
drivers and rules don't come with the operating system but are on the CD
when it is in useless mode. I guess it would be nice if the CD contained
a little text file in a standard place with the command to flip it, or
if they just didn't do the stupid fake CD thing at all.


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Fri Sep  4 10:18:33 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:18:33 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <4AA0D3A5.5040701@theopenlearningcentre.com>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>	<dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>	<4AA0CA69.8070401@esdelle.co.uk>
	<4AA0D3A5.5040701@theopenlearningcentre.com>
Message-ID: <4AA0DB69.9050205@esdelle.co.uk>

Alan Bell wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
>   
>> Matt Jones wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> If he is only going to use it a small amount, then Vodafone offer the
>>> best deal, top up ?15 for 1GB. Then use it until it runs out. With
>>> everyone else, your 1GB of data only lasts 30days, even if you haven't
>>> used it all.
>>>
>>> Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the
>>> Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the
>>> drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones.
>>>
>>> Do you have a link to the laptop?
>>>
>>> Matt.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> I can confirm the Vodafone modem is supported.  Once it's configured 
>> (which is just a case of following a wizard and selecting the provider 
>> in the case of the Vodafone Pay As You Go modem you'd select "Vodafone 
>> Topup and Go") then all you do is simply plug the modem in wait about 10 
>> seconds, click the network manager icon in the task bar and select the 
>> Vodafone connection.
>>
>> I can't remember if the Vodafone modems have a money back guarantee or 
>> not, if not it's worth at least checking the coverage maps on Vodafone's 
>> web site to make sure you are in an area which is covered at least by 3G 
>> (ideally HSDPA).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
> The networks don't make dongles, they just rebrand them, and change the
> hardware and supplier from time to time so there is no "vodaphone
> dongle" as such.
What I meant was I wasn't sure if Vodafone would offer refunds within 28 
days on the modems that they sell.  May have badly worded it, I realise 
that Vodafone don't make the modems and just brand them.

The point is, it would be a tad annoying going out and buying a modem 
for a specific provider (Three, Vodafone, T-Mobile etc), finding that 
you can't get reception where you want to use it and then not being able 
to return it for a refund.  Luckily where I want to use my dongle I can 
generally get reception (plus I also have the backup of 1GB data on my 
Three contract mobile, not that I've figured out how to use the phone as 
a modem via Bluetooth yet - I did find a guide but didn't have very good 
reception and the guide was for T-Mobile).

Does anyone know if these dongles are still locked to specific 
providers?  I vaguely remember reading something a while back about 
unlocking the E220 modem so it can be used on any network, can't say 
I've tried it, but maybe it could be handy to have a couple of SIM cards 
for different networks (to cover to gaps in reception assuming, for 
instance maybe one on Vodafone and one on T-Mobile).

Rob




From adams.ken.j at googlemail.com  Fri Sep  4 10:41:48 2009
From: adams.ken.j at googlemail.com (Ken Adams)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:41:48 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
In-Reply-To: <4AA0DB69.9050205@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>
	<dcdb46380909031330k7c408988s6b49856cfeaa37f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA0CA69.8070401@esdelle.co.uk>
	<4AA0D3A5.5040701@theopenlearningcentre.com>
	<4AA0DB69.9050205@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1252057308.3923.9.camel@ken-laptop>

On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 10:18 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:

> The point is, it would be a tad annoying going out and buying a modem 
> for a specific provider (Three, Vodafone, T-Mobile etc), finding that 
> you can't get reception where you want to use it and then not being able 
> to return it for a refund.  Luckily where I want to use my dongle I can 
> generally get reception (plus I also have the backup of 1GB data on my 
> Three contract mobile, not that I've figured out how to use the phone as 
> a modem via Bluetooth yet - I did find a guide but didn't have very good 
> reception and the guide was for T-Mobile).

I have Mobile Broadband running on my Noia N95 with 3. Very easy to
setup. I use the USB cable to connect to my phone and put the N95 into
"PC Suite" mode. Ubuntu then pops up a window to configure the broadband
modem, as I believe you get with the dongles. All very easy.

I am using Jaunty on and Acer Aspire 1690.

Rgds Ken



From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 15:36:22 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:36:22 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Internet via Nokia e63 on Bluetooth
Message-ID: <4AA27766.90506@esdelle.co.uk>

Hi folks,

About a month ago I got a Nokia e63 phone on a Three contract.  As part 
of the contract I get 1GB of internet allowance which works great on the 
phone.

However what I'm trying to do is connect to the Internet via the phone 
using a Bluetooth connection (I've yet to get a USB cable).

I've managed to get the phone talking to my notebook (well as far as I 
can browse the phone contents and memory card using bluetooth-browse).

The next step though is to work out how to get the phone to dial (or 
whatever it needs to do).  I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 and I see that there 
isn't an option for dialup anymore.  I wondered if it might be as easy 
as just telling Ubuntu that I have a mobile broadband connection on 
Three but that doesn't seem to work.

I have found a couple of guides that talk about Bluez-utils and using 
wvdial or ppp to connect [1] & [2] and also this about connecting to 
Three using a Huewai E220 modem [3] but none of these seem to work.

I just wondered if anyone may have got a Nokia mobile working via 
Bluetooth to connect to the Internet?

Ta,

Rob

[1] 
http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2007/02/internet-connection-via-nokia-bluetooth.html
[2] 
http://davesource.com/Solutions/20070520.T-Mobile-Nokia-E65-Ubuntu-Linux.html
[3] http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/824630.html




From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sat Sep  5 15:39:28 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:39:28 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Internet via Nokia e63 on Bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <4AA27766.90506@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AA27766.90506@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AA27820.3070200@sky.com>

Rob Beard wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> About a month ago I got a Nokia e63 phone on a Three contract.  As part 
> of the contract I get 1GB of internet allowance which works great on the 
> phone.
>
> However what I'm trying to do is connect to the Internet via the phone 
> using a Bluetooth connection (I've yet to get a USB cable).
>
> I've managed to get the phone talking to my notebook (well as far as I 
> can browse the phone contents and memory card using bluetooth-browse).
>
> The next step though is to work out how to get the phone to dial (or 
> whatever it needs to do).  I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 and I see that there 
> isn't an option for dialup anymore.  I wondered if it might be as easy 
> as just telling Ubuntu that I have a mobile broadband connection on 
> Three but that doesn't seem to work.
>
> I have found a couple of guides that talk about Bluez-utils and using 
> wvdial or ppp to connect [1] & [2] and also this about connecting to 
> Three using a Huewai E220 modem [3] but none of these seem to work.
>
> I just wondered if anyone may have got a Nokia mobile working via 
> Bluetooth to connect to the Internet?
>
> Ta,
>
> Rob
>
> [1] 
> http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2007/02/internet-connection-via-nokia-bluetooth.html
> [2] 
> http://davesource.com/Solutions/20070520.T-Mobile-Nokia-E65-Ubuntu-Linux.html
> [3] http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/824630.html
>
>
>
>   
Hi, I have a nokia E71, and I can get connection either by Blue tooth or 
via a little program called Joiku Spot. You can either get the free 
version or paid version, I have the paid version. The Blue tooth program 
is called BluemanBlutooth, and can be found in here 
https://launchpad.net/blueman

I have to say, the Blueman program is amazing to use, it makes copying 
anything from phone to computer really easy, and connection to the 
Internet is simple.

Hope that helps.

John


From christopherrowson at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 16:03:25 2009
From: christopherrowson at gmail.com (Chris Rowson)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:03:25 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Internet via Nokia e63 on Bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <4AA27766.90506@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AA27766.90506@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <d6c346600909050803y6162677cq446d11b86b0ce055@mail.gmail.com>

> Hi folks,
>
> About a month ago I got a Nokia e63 phone on a Three contract. ?As part
> of the contract I get 1GB of internet allowance which works great on the
> phone.
>
> However what I'm trying to do is connect to the Internet via the phone
> using a Bluetooth connection (I've yet to get a USB cable).

Hey Rob,

Just be careful about falling foul of mobile contract rules on
'tethering' if you're not on a 'mobile as a modem' plan.

I think three does a separate tethering plan here:
http://www.three.co.uk/Internet_Services/Great_value_Add_ons/Your_mobile_as_a_modem

I don't know if they'd be able to find out if you had been tethering
off contract, but I seem to remember noticing that if you do it
through the standard nokia app, it chooses a different connection to
the standard '3' one you connect to when browsing mobile internet.

Chris


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 16:08:03 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:08:03 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Internet via Nokia e63 on Bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <4AA27820.3070200@sky.com>
References: <4AA27766.90506@esdelle.co.uk> <4AA27820.3070200@sky.com>
Message-ID: <4AA27ED3.3020603@esdelle.co.uk>

John Matthews wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
>   
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> About a month ago I got a Nokia e63 phone on a Three contract.  As part 
>> of the contract I get 1GB of internet allowance which works great on the 
>> phone.
>>
>> However what I'm trying to do is connect to the Internet via the phone 
>> using a Bluetooth connection (I've yet to get a USB cable).
>>
>> I've managed to get the phone talking to my notebook (well as far as I 
>> can browse the phone contents and memory card using bluetooth-browse).
>>
>> The next step though is to work out how to get the phone to dial (or 
>> whatever it needs to do).  I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 and I see that there 
>> isn't an option for dialup anymore.  I wondered if it might be as easy 
>> as just telling Ubuntu that I have a mobile broadband connection on 
>> Three but that doesn't seem to work.
>>
>> I have found a couple of guides that talk about Bluez-utils and using 
>> wvdial or ppp to connect [1] & [2] and also this about connecting to 
>> Three using a Huewai E220 modem [3] but none of these seem to work.
>>
>> I just wondered if anyone may have got a Nokia mobile working via 
>> Bluetooth to connect to the Internet?
>>
>> Ta,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> [1] 
>> http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2007/02/internet-connection-via-nokia-bluetooth.html
>> [2] 
>> http://davesource.com/Solutions/20070520.T-Mobile-Nokia-E65-Ubuntu-Linux.html
>> [3] http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/824630.html
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
> Hi, I have a nokia E71, and I can get connection either by Blue tooth or 
> via a little program called Joiku Spot. You can either get the free 
> version or paid version, I have the paid version. The Blue tooth program 
> is called BluemanBlutooth, and can be found in here 
> https://launchpad.net/blueman
>
> I have to say, the Blueman program is amazing to use, it makes copying 
> anything from phone to computer really easy, and connection to the 
> Internet is simple.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> John
>
>   
Thanks John, I'll take a look.

Ta,

Rob




From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sat Sep  5 16:26:17 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:26:17 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Internet via Nokia e63 on Bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <d6c346600909050803y6162677cq446d11b86b0ce055@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AA27766.90506@esdelle.co.uk>
	<d6c346600909050803y6162677cq446d11b86b0ce055@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA28319.5050704@esdelle.co.uk>

Chris Rowson wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> About a month ago I got a Nokia e63 phone on a Three contract.  As part
>> of the contract I get 1GB of internet allowance which works great on the
>> phone.
>>
>> However what I'm trying to do is connect to the Internet via the phone
>> using a Bluetooth connection (I've yet to get a USB cable).
>>     
>
> Hey Rob,
>
> Just be careful about falling foul of mobile contract rules on
> 'tethering' if you're not on a 'mobile as a modem' plan.
>
> I think three does a separate tethering plan here:
> http://www.three.co.uk/Internet_Services/Great_value_Add_ons/Your_mobile_as_a_modem
>
> I don't know if they'd be able to find out if you had been tethering
> off contract, but I seem to remember noticing that if you do it
> through the standard nokia app, it chooses a different connection to
> the standard '3' one you connect to when browsing mobile internet.
>
> Chris
>
>   
Ahh didn't realise that, thanks for the info.  I'll do a bit more 
looking into it.

Rob



From lists at tdobson.net  Sat Sep  5 17:31:21 2009
From: lists at tdobson.net (Tim Dobson)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:31:21 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Throw a release party to get free software.
In-Reply-To: <dcdb46380909022254x67205eccy5bbb7c177751fb52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dcdb46380909022254x67205eccy5bbb7c177751fb52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA29259.1030706@tdobson.net>

Matt Jones wrote:
> I wonder where they got this idea from?
> http://houseparty.com/windows7

Apple?

In all seriousness, I was thinking of "throwing" a windows 7 release 
party (in my windows free house) and sending them home with a karmic CD...

Tbh though, I don't really care about microsoft these days, I see Apple 
as much more of a threat because they have user loyalty.

Tim


From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 19:02:31 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:02:31 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Internet via Nokia e63 on Bluetooth
In-Reply-To: <4AA28319.5050704@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AA27766.90506@esdelle.co.uk>
	<d6c346600909050803y6162677cq446d11b86b0ce055@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4AA28319.5050704@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909051102i55d82836i5c80666d27ae3e8a@mail.gmail.com>

Chris Rowson wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> About a month ago I got a Nokia e63 phone on a Three contract. ?As part
> of the contract I get 1GB of internet allowance which works great on the
> phone.
>
> However what I'm trying to do is connect to the Internet via the phone
> using a Bluetooth connection (I've yet to get a USB cable).
>

To connect via bluetooth you will need to use Blueman rather than the
standard gnome-bluez so that you can add a dial-up device. You can
then use gnome-ppp to initiate the connection, setting it to dial
*99#.

If you use a USB cable network-manager automagically detects the phone
and will prompt you to set up a mobile broadband connection (assuming
you connect using PC Suite mode). This should work flawlessly on any
S60 device (I've tried it with both a 6630 and 6120c).

If you want more information I suggest you search on ubuntuforums.org;
there is plenty of info on there.

JF


From biot023 at gmail.com  Sun Sep  6 16:38:21 2009
From: biot023 at gmail.com (doug livesey)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:38:21 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Throw a release party to get free software.
In-Reply-To: <4AA29259.1030706@tdobson.net>
References: <dcdb46380909022254x67205eccy5bbb7c177751fb52@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA29259.1030706@tdobson.net>
Message-ID: <50873a360909060838u6e91f78ge3e47df12cc78d4f@mail.gmail.com>

How do you see apple as a threat?
I can see them as a challenge, and something to raise the game for
free OS developers, but a threat?
Do you mean that they are practicing seriously monopolistic practices?
(Serious question, btw, not trying to start a flame war.)
Cheers,
   Doug.

On 05/09/2009, Tim Dobson <lists at tdobson.net> wrote:
> Matt Jones wrote:
>> I wonder where they got this idea from?
>> http://houseparty.com/windows7
>
> Apple?
>
> In all seriousness, I was thinking of "throwing" a windows 7 release
> party (in my windows free house) and sending them home with a karmic CD...
>
> Tbh though, I don't really care about microsoft these days, I see Apple
> as much more of a threat because they have user loyalty.
>
> Tim
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>


From lucybridges at gmail.com  Sun Sep  6 18:15:45 2009
From: lucybridges at gmail.com (Lucy)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:15:45 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Throw a release party to get free software.
In-Reply-To: <50873a360909060838u6e91f78ge3e47df12cc78d4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dcdb46380909022254x67205eccy5bbb7c177751fb52@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA29259.1030706@tdobson.net>
	<50873a360909060838u6e91f78ge3e47df12cc78d4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a4b4319c0909061015h7ac28a42ud59513fe42811afb@mail.gmail.com>

I agree. Microsoft is a threat because of their monoply. They are very
good at locking-in users, however they are starting to feel threatened
by Linux and the negativity they received after the release of Vista.
Hence the 'release party' move (as well as various open source
initiatives) to improve their product marketing by building a grass
roots community.

I also see Apple as a challenge from a usability/design point of view,
but not so much from a business aspect, because they don't have so
many users (even though they're better than MS when it comes to
creating lock-in).

Tim, I'd ignore Microsoft's release party idea completely. Any mention
of it, just brings them back into public consciousness, when they
should be becoming irrelevent. Much better to just talk about the
awesome Ubuntu parties instead!

2009/9/6 doug livesey <biot023 at gmail.com>:
> How do you see apple as a threat?
> I can see them as a challenge, and something to raise the game for
> free OS developers, but a threat?
> Do you mean that they are practicing seriously monopolistic practices?
> (Serious question, btw, not trying to start a flame war.)
> Cheers,
> ? Doug.
>
> On 05/09/2009, Tim Dobson <lists at tdobson.net> wrote:
>> Matt Jones wrote:
>>> I wonder where they got this idea from?
>>> http://houseparty.com/windows7
>>
>> Apple?
>>
>> In all seriousness, I was thinking of "throwing" a windows 7 release
>> party (in my windows free house) and sending them home with a karmic CD...
>>
>> Tbh though, I don't really care about microsoft these days, I see Apple
>> as much more of a threat because they have user loyalty.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>


From lucybridges at gmail.com  Sun Sep  6 18:19:50 2009
From: lucybridges at gmail.com (Lucy)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:19:50 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Disk Benchmark
In-Reply-To: <A721C1298D8E9B488624A6251FC993EF0D896673@exchange.wnet.mfs.misys.co.uk>
References: <A721C1298D8E9B488624A6251FC993EF0D896673@exchange.wnet.mfs.misys.co.uk>
Message-ID: <a4b4319c0909061019v3d4d27f4h1411d0bddd4c2a44@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/2  <Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk>:
> As the list seems to have less traffic I've got a poser:
>
> My work PC is very slow with disk access. Any time I start copying large
> files, or unzipping anything etc. it will grind to a halt.
>
> It seems to be a faulty drive or disk cache etc. but I don't want to
> have to install Windows to prove it.

Might be worth using 'smartctl' to check the health of the drive.

Otherwise, does the manufacturer offer any drive checking utility?


From ubuntujenkins at googlemail.com  Sun Sep  6 23:14:32 2009
From: ubuntujenkins at googlemail.com (Luke Jennings)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:14:32 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Can I do this with Evolution?
Message-ID: <1252275272.12255.0.camel@luke-laptop>

Hello,

After moving from windows about a year ago I had been using Thunderbird
as my e-mail client. I have just moved to evolution mostly for the
integration into the desktop and the calender. In the calender to look
at a selected task/event/memo it opens a new window as shown in the
before picture. I would like the current task/new task to appear at the
bottom right as in the after picture. The buttons have been moved to the
top along with the others. I didn't know what to goggle to find out if
you can already do this.

Before http://www.flickr.com/photos/42235077 at N07/3894540244/
After  http://www.flickr.com/photos/42235077 at N07/3893751347/


If you can't already do this then, when the calender is first opened
that space could display the next anointment or a branding logo as
Mozilla does with Thunderbird. I think that maybe there should be a tick
box in the options to enable this as on a smaller screen it would take
up to much space. 

Any thoughts? Is this already possible?

Thanks Jenkins





From ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 08:52:28 2009
From: ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk (mac)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:52:28 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Powertop - any advice?
Message-ID: <4AA60D3C.8030403@gmx.co.uk>

Before I start messing with Powertop, has anyone got any advice, 
warnings, gotcha's?

mac



From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 09:22:42 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:22:42 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] dead netbook
In-Reply-To: <4cc601d30909080106w4fd4f869u710c1e1bb975204f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4cc601d30909080106w4fd4f869u710c1e1bb975204f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA61452.4080706@esdelle.co.uk>

Bruce Beardall wrote:
> Pressed the power button on my Acer Aspire One this morning and the 
> button light goes on followed by the whirring of the fan but that's 
> it. Not even a BIOS to hack into.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Anyone heard of this happening to other Aspire Ones?
>
> It's currently got Jaunty installed which was running fine - the only 
> different thing I've done was play with a live USB Puppy Linux 
> yesterday evening. Seems unlikely that that fried everything.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bruce
>
Hi Bruce,

I've heard about Aspire One machines dying before, IIRC it was something 
to do with the BIOS.  You could try this - 
http://macles.blogspot.com/2008/08/acer-aspire-one-bios-recovery.html

Worth a shot, and it appears it can be done through Linux (just put the 
files on a FAT formatted USB stick).

Hope this helps.

Rob




From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 11:56:16 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:56:16 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Powertop - any advice?
In-Reply-To: <4AA60D3C.8030403@gmx.co.uk>
References: <4AA60D3C.8030403@gmx.co.uk>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909080356p12a7b82bx994cd8a636caf259@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/8 mac <ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk>:
> Before I start messing with Powertop, has anyone got any advice,
> warnings, gotcha's?
>
> mac
>

Nope. I don't think it's possible to break anything.


From mikezz1011 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  8 13:02:25 2009
From: mikezz1011 at yahoo.com (mike daniels)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Printer prob
Message-ID: <314356.8281.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

9.04 detected and enabled my HP1440 printer automatically.
My Lexmark Z34 was not detected, after adding it, a print request just returned blank pages.
Any suggestions please, (apart from "use the HP one") ?
Thanks, Michael



      
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From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 13:22:38 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:22:38 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Printer prob
In-Reply-To: <314356.8281.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <314356.8281.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AA64C8E.4060909@esdelle.co.uk>

mike daniels wrote:
> 9.04 detected and enabled my HP1440 printer automatically.
> My Lexmark Z34 was not detected, after adding it, a print request just 
> returned blank pages.
> Any suggestions please, (apart from "use the HP one") ?
> Thanks, Michael
>
>
Too be honest the Lexmark printers are notorious for being badly 
supported.  It appears there isn't an open source driver available which 
may explain why the printer doesn't work as standard.

There are some instructions for Ubuntu 8.04 which may help although 
rather than logging on as root you'd need to use the sudo command...

http://techscope.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/how-to-install-lexmark-z24-z25-z35-in-ubuntu-804/

Good luck.

Rob




From ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 16:56:26 2009
From: ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk (mac)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:56:26 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Powertop - any advice?
In-Reply-To: <f63db7860909080356p12a7b82bx994cd8a636caf259@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AA60D3C.8030403@gmx.co.uk>
	<f63db7860909080356p12a7b82bx994cd8a636caf259@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA67EAA.70901@gmx.co.uk>

Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> 2009/9/8 mac <ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk>:
>> Before I start messing with Powertop, has anyone got any advice,
>> warnings, gotcha's?
> 
> Nope. I don't think it's possible to break anything.

Thanks, Jonathon, that's reassuring.  So I guess I'll try the suggested 
fixes for the session to see if they help, and decide whether to adopt 
them permanently later.

Search results suggest that Powertop is widely used by experienced Linux 
devotees;  but I never came across anyone mentioning it here, though 
it's in the Ubuntu repos, so I wonder.  Any thoughts?

mac







From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 17:50:11 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:50:11 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Powertop - any advice?
In-Reply-To: <4AA67EAA.70901@gmx.co.uk>
References: <4AA60D3C.8030403@gmx.co.uk>	<f63db7860909080356p12a7b82bx994cd8a636caf259@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA67EAA.70901@gmx.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AA68B43.5030207@esdelle.co.uk>

mac wrote:
> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>   
>> 2009/9/8 mac <ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk>:
>>     
>>> Before I start messing with Powertop, has anyone got any advice,
>>> warnings, gotcha's?
>>>       
>> Nope. I don't think it's possible to break anything.
>>     
>
> Thanks, Jonathon, that's reassuring.  So I guess I'll try the suggested 
> fixes for the session to see if they help, and decide whether to adopt 
> them permanently later.
>
> Search results suggest that Powertop is widely used by experienced Linux 
> devotees;  but I never came across anyone mentioning it here, though 
> it's in the Ubuntu repos, so I wonder.  Any thoughts?
>
> mac
>   
Interesting application.  I didn't know about it myself until you 
mentioned it.  I've installed it and enabled a couple of it's 
suggestions, will be interesting to see if it makes any difference 
(although I generally run my laptop in power saving mode anyway so it's 
generally running at 1GHz).

Rob



From jakewc2 at sky.com  Tue Sep  8 18:00:30 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:00:30 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Powertop - any advice?
In-Reply-To: <4AA68B43.5030207@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AA60D3C.8030403@gmx.co.uk>	<f63db7860909080356p12a7b82bx994cd8a636caf259@mail.gmail.com>	<4AA67EAA.70901@gmx.co.uk>
	<4AA68B43.5030207@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AA68DAE.3070708@sky.com>

Rob Beard wrote:
> mac wrote:
>   
>> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> 2009/9/8 mac <ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk>:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Before I start messing with Powertop, has anyone got any advice,
>>>> warnings, gotcha's?
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Nope. I don't think it's possible to break anything.
>>>     
>>>       
>> Thanks, Jonathon, that's reassuring.  So I guess I'll try the suggested 
>> fixes for the session to see if they help, and decide whether to adopt 
>> them permanently later.
>>
>> Search results suggest that Powertop is widely used by experienced Linux 
>> devotees;  but I never came across anyone mentioning it here, though 
>> it's in the Ubuntu repos, so I wonder.  Any thoughts?
>>
>> mac
>>   
>>     
> Interesting application.  I didn't know about it myself until you 
> mentioned it.  I've installed it and enabled a couple of it's 
> suggestions, will be interesting to see if it makes any difference 
> (although I generally run my laptop in power saving mode anyway so it's 
> generally running at 1GHz).
>
> Rob
>
>
>   
Hi, are there any instructions on how to use this, I Installed it, but 
have no idea about how to start it, to even look at program.

Thank you.

John.


From alan at popey.com  Tue Sep  8 18:21:12 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:21:12 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Powertop - any advice?
In-Reply-To: <4AA68DAE.3070708@sky.com>
References: <4AA60D3C.8030403@gmx.co.uk>
	<f63db7860909080356p12a7b82bx994cd8a636caf259@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA67EAA.70901@gmx.co.uk> <4AA68B43.5030207@esdelle.co.uk>
	<4AA68DAE.3070708@sky.com>
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909081021i1e7a4593mebfeab7c9f06dca@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/8 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>:
> Hi, are there any instructions on how to use this, I Installed it, but
> have no idea about how to start it, to even look at program.
>

It's a terminal based program. Open a terminal (Applications ->
Accessories -> Terminal) and run:-

sudo powertop

The gramattically incorrect http://lesswatts.org/ has some info about
what it does. Specifically at
http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/

Cheers,
Al.


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Tue Sep  8 18:47:28 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:47:28 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Powertop - any advice?
In-Reply-To: <4AA68DAE.3070708@sky.com>
References: <4AA60D3C.8030403@gmx.co.uk>	<f63db7860909080356p12a7b82bx994cd8a636caf259@mail.gmail.com>	<4AA67EAA.70901@gmx.co.uk>	<4AA68B43.5030207@esdelle.co.uk>
	<4AA68DAE.3070708@sky.com>
Message-ID: <4AA698B0.4020105@esdelle.co.uk>

John Matthews wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
>   
>> mac wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> 2009/9/8 mac <ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk>:
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Before I start messing with Powertop, has anyone got any advice,
>>>>> warnings, gotcha's?
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> Nope. I don't think it's possible to break anything.
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Thanks, Jonathon, that's reassuring.  So I guess I'll try the suggested 
>>> fixes for the session to see if they help, and decide whether to adopt 
>>> them permanently later.
>>>
>>> Search results suggest that Powertop is widely used by experienced Linux 
>>> devotees;  but I never came across anyone mentioning it here, though 
>>> it's in the Ubuntu repos, so I wonder.  Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> mac
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> Interesting application.  I didn't know about it myself until you 
>> mentioned it.  I've installed it and enabled a couple of it's 
>> suggestions, will be interesting to see if it makes any difference 
>> (although I generally run my laptop in power saving mode anyway so it's 
>> generally running at 1GHz).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
> Hi, are there any instructions on how to use this, I Installed it, but 
> have no idea about how to start it, to even look at program.
>
> Thank you.
>
> John.
>
>   
I just ran the command

sudo powertop

 from a terminal window.

Rob



From krisdouglas at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 19:17:10 2009
From: krisdouglas at gmail.com (Kris Douglas)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:17:10 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] dead netbook
In-Reply-To: <4cc601d30909080135o12e5176and9a8c3a42f5daea7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4cc601d30909080106w4fd4f869u710c1e1bb975204f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA61452.4080706@esdelle.co.uk>
	<4cc601d30909080135o12e5176and9a8c3a42f5daea7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7a11bc210909081117p79dcea83ka241f1d30e865447@mail.gmail.com>

What Rob said, thats exactly what happens when the bios fails. Link
posted works a treat.

2009/9/8 Bruce Beardall <bruce72 at gmail.com>:
> Thanks Rob
>
> I'll have to wait until this evening but I'll give it a go.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bruce
>
>
> 2009/9/8 Rob Beard <rob at esdelle.co.uk>
>>
>> Bruce Beardall wrote:
>> > Pressed the power button on my Acer Aspire One this morning and the
>> > button light goes on followed by the whirring of the fan but that's
>> > it. Not even a BIOS to hack into.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Anyone heard of this happening to other Aspire Ones?
>> >
>> > It's currently got Jaunty installed which was running fine - the only
>> > different thing I've done was play with a live USB Puppy Linux
>> > yesterday evening. Seems unlikely that that fried everything.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> I've heard about Aspire One machines dying before, IIRC it was something
>> to do with the BIOS. ?You could try this -
>> http://macles.blogspot.com/2008/08/acer-aspire-one-bios-recovery.html
>>
>> Worth a shot, and it appears it can be done through Linux (just put the
>> files on a FAT formatted USB stick).
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>
>



-- 
Kris Douglas


From kaushalshriyan at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 08:54:32 2009
From: kaushalshriyan at gmail.com (Kaushal Shriyan)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:24:32 +0530
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] autossh
Message-ID: <6b16fb4c0909090054k7a4526f5h77ad37a41e693b32@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I am having issue with autossh hostxxxx, I get

autossh[13221]: checking for grace period, tries = 0
autossh[13221]: starting ssh (count 1)
autossh[13221]: ssh child pid is 13224
autossh[13221]: check on child 13224
autossh[13221]: set alarm for 600 secs
autossh[13224]: execing /usr/bin/ssh

My Autossh setting in my .bashrc are as  below

export AUTOSSH_GATETIME=0
export AUTOSSH_POLL=100
export AUTOSSH_PORT=20020
export AUTOSSH_DEBUG=1

When i test by disconnecting and reconnecting the internet, It takes
10mins to prompt for a password. Can this time interval be reduced ?

Thanks and Regards,

Kaushal


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep  9 09:16:50 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:16:50 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Powertop - any advice?
In-Reply-To: <4AA698B0.4020105@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AA60D3C.8030403@gmx.co.uk>	<f63db7860909080356p12a7b82bx994cd8a636caf259@mail.gmail.com>	<4AA67EAA.70901@gmx.co.uk>	<4AA68B43.5030207@esdelle.co.uk>	<4AA68DAE.3070708@sky.com>
	<4AA698B0.4020105@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AA76472.6010402@sky.com>

Rob Beard wrote:
> John Matthews wrote:
>   
>> Rob Beard wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> mac wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> 2009/9/8 mac <ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk>:
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Before I start messing with Powertop, has anyone got any advice,
>>>>>> warnings, gotcha's?
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Nope. I don't think it's possible to break anything.
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> Thanks, Jonathon, that's reassuring.  So I guess I'll try the suggested 
>>>> fixes for the session to see if they help, and decide whether to adopt 
>>>> them permanently later.
>>>>
>>>> Search results suggest that Powertop is widely used by experienced Linux 
>>>> devotees;  but I never came across anyone mentioning it here, though 
>>>> it's in the Ubuntu repos, so I wonder.  Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> mac
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Interesting application.  I didn't know about it myself until you 
>>> mentioned it.  I've installed it and enabled a couple of it's 
>>> suggestions, will be interesting to see if it makes any difference 
>>> (although I generally run my laptop in power saving mode anyway so it's 
>>> generally running at 1GHz).
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> Hi, are there any instructions on how to use this, I Installed it, but 
>> have no idea about how to start it, to even look at program.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>   
>>     
> I just ran the command
>
> sudo powertop
>
>  from a terminal window.
>
> Rob
>
>
>   
Hi Both, thank you for the replies, I finally managed to take a look 
using the Terminal, and I will have to go through the website to see 
what I can do. One thing does worry me, I only have Firefox and 
Thunderbird open, and its using up over 60% CPU and that is whilst being 
idle, and not sure why. Will take a look at that to see what I can work 
out.

Thank you.

John.


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep  9 09:34:55 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:34:55 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] dead netbook
In-Reply-To: <4cc601d30909090108i29d75c0ep793721cf07efdb70@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4cc601d30909080106w4fd4f869u710c1e1bb975204f@mail.gmail.com>	<4AA61452.4080706@esdelle.co.uk>	<4cc601d30909080135o12e5176and9a8c3a42f5daea7@mail.gmail.com>	<7a11bc210909081117p79dcea83ka241f1d30e865447@mail.gmail.com>
	<4cc601d30909090108i29d75c0ep793721cf07efdb70@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA768AF.5060009@esdelle.co.uk>

Bruce Beardall wrote:
> Thanks for the replies Rob and Kris.
>
> Unfortunately, no joy. Looks like I'll have to get hold of the repair 
> centre.
>
> If I have an update I'll add it here for reference.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bruce
That's a shame, well I guess it was worth a try.

Rob



From melvbailey at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 10 09:53:52 2009
From: melvbailey at googlemail.com (Melv Bailey)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:53:52 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Is there a problem with digests
Message-ID: <4AA8BEA0.6030907@googlemail.com>

Hi

Not posted before just read the digests, to pick up any tips, as I am 
just messing with ubuntu at moment in any (none!) spare time I have.

However I have not received anything from ubuntu-uk since Vol 52, Issue 
30 on the 23/08/2009.  Is there a problem?
I receive to a googlemail account and am still getting other emails and 
mailing list digests to this account so I doubt its an account problem 
at my end.




From alan at popey.com  Thu Sep 10 17:40:44 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:40:44 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Is there a problem with digests
In-Reply-To: <4AA8BEA0.6030907@googlemail.com>
References: <4AA8BEA0.6030907@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909100940gd39f084jaa2de4f4e82cb089@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/10 Melv Bailey <melvbailey at googlemail.com>:
> However I have not received anything from ubuntu-uk since Vol 52, Issue
> 30 on the 23/08/2009. ?Is there a problem?

I don't subscribe to the digest, so don't know of this problem.
Perhaps someone else who does can confirm it? (Assuming they get this
mail of course :) ).

Cheers,
Al.


From barry.titterton at mail.adsl4less.com  Thu Sep 10 18:42:06 2009
From: barry.titterton at mail.adsl4less.com (Barry Titterton)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:42:06 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Is There a problem with digests
Message-ID: <1252604526.7154.12.camel@oct6>

>2009/9/10 Melv Bailey <melvbailey at googlemail.com>:
>> However I have not received anything from ubuntu-uk since Vol 52,
>Issue
>> 30 on the 23/08/2009.  Is there a problem?
>
>I don't subscribe to the digest, so don't know of this problem.
>Perhaps someone else who does can confirm it? (Assuming they get this
>mail of course :) ).
>
>Cheers,
>Al.
Merv and Al,
I have also not been receiving digests from about the same time as Merv.
I am trying to reply to this thread from the archives so my apologies if
I'm doing it the wrong way.
My account says that Yahoo web mail has been bouncing the digest emails
even though my inbox is almost empty (2% memory usage). I thought that
it was something to do with MS taking over Yahoo so I registered another
email account with my ISP but have still not received any digests. I
have noticed other posts from people wondering why the postings are
quiet so perhaps there are more people than us two with the same
problem. You do not know that there is anything wrong as you do not get
any error messages from you web mail account.

Cheers,
Barry




From tim at southfarm.plus.com  Fri Sep 11 07:52:35 2009
From: tim at southfarm.plus.com (Tim Powys-Lybbe)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:52:35 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Is There a problem with digests
In-Reply-To: <1252604526.7154.12.camel@oct6>
References: <1252604526.7154.12.camel@oct6>
Message-ID: <mpro.kpsofn0001gmt0owk.tim@southfarm.plus.com>

On 10 Sep at 18:42, Barry Titterton <barry.titterton at mail.adsl4less.com>
wrote:

> > 2009/9/10 Melv Bailey <melvbailey at googlemail.com>:
> > > However I have not received anything from ubuntu-uk since Vol 52,
> > Issue
> > > 30 on the 23/08/2009.  Is there a problem?
> >
> > I don't subscribe to the digest, so don't know of this problem.
> > Perhaps someone else who does can confirm it? (Assuming they get
> > this mail of course :) ).
> >
> > Cheers, Al.
> Merv and Al, I have also not been receiving digests from about the
> same time as Merv. I am trying to reply to this thread from the
> archives so my apologies if I'm doing it the wrong way. My account
> says that Yahoo web mail has been bouncing the digest emails even
> though my inbox is almost empty (2% memory usage). I thought that it
> was something to do with MS taking over Yahoo so I registered another
> email account with my ISP but have still not received any digests. I
> have noticed other posts from people wondering why the postings are
> quiet so perhaps there are more people than us two with the same
> problem. You do not know that there is anything wrong as you do not
> get any error messages from you web mail account.

No problem here with a normal mail system, an average of 5 posts a day
over the last 20 days.  So it sounds as if web-mail or digests have some
problem.

-- 
Tim Powys-Lybbe                                           tim at powys.org
             for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/


From jeff-fisher at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Sep 11 07:58:15 2009
From: jeff-fisher at tiscali.co.uk (Jeff Fisher)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:58:15 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Is there a problem with digests
In-Reply-To: <eba6d2300909100940gd39f084jaa2de4f4e82cb089@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AA8BEA0.6030907@googlemail.com>
	<eba6d2300909100940gd39f084jaa2de4f4e82cb089@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA9F507.6080608@tiscali.co.uk>

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/9/10 Melv Bailey <melvbailey at googlemail.com>:
>   
>> However I have not received anything from ubuntu-uk since Vol 52, Issue
>> 30 on the 23/08/2009.  Is there a problem?
>>     
>
> I don't subscribe to the digest, so don't know of this problem.
> Perhaps someone else who does can confirm it? (Assuming they get this
> mail of course :) ).
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>   
Same here. - Vol 52, Issue 30 was last digest received.
Appears not to be a problem unless subscribed to digest.

Regards
Jeff


From technolalia at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 10:55:53 2009
From: technolalia at gmail.com (John Levin)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:55:53 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Logging into a blank white screen
Message-ID: <4AAA1EA9.2010102@gmail.com>

Hi all,

Something is borked on my Lenovo 3000 N500 laptop :(

When I boot up, I get the log-in screen as per normal, but after logging 
in I'm faced with a blank white screen, wether with the normal gnome 
desktop or the failsafe. I can get into a shell no probs.

Amongst the errors in .xsession-errors is:
** (nautilus:8497): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported

I'm presuming that this has been triggered by a recent update, but 
cannot recall any that would affect the display. Booting into a 
crunchbang live cd works fine

Running an up to date jaunty with Intel graphics.

Suggestions?

TIA

John



From technolalia at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 11:40:00 2009
From: technolalia at gmail.com (John Levin)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:40:00 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Logging into a blank white screen
In-Reply-To: <4AAA1EA9.2010102@gmail.com>
References: <4AAA1EA9.2010102@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AAA2900.2010901@gmail.com>

John Levin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Something is borked on my Lenovo 3000 N500 laptop :(
> 
> When I boot up, I get the log-in screen as per normal, but after logging 
> in I'm faced with a blank white screen, wether with the normal gnome 
> desktop or the failsafe. I can get into a shell no probs.
> 
> Amongst the errors in .xsession-errors is:
> ** (nautilus:8497): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported
> 
> I'm presuming that this has been triggered by a recent update, but 
> cannot recall any that would affect the display. Booting into a 
> crunchbang live cd works fine
> 
> Running an up to date jaunty with Intel graphics.
> 
> Suggestions?
> 
> TIA
> 
> John
> 
> 

Update: installed lxde and can get into that fine. Seems to be a bug 
with gnome. Anybody seeing anything similar?

John



From technolalia at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 12:19:46 2009
From: technolalia at gmail.com (John Levin)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:19:46 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Logging into a blank white screen
In-Reply-To: <4AAA2900.2010901@gmail.com>
References: <4AAA1EA9.2010102@gmail.com> <4AAA2900.2010901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AAA3252.70503@gmail.com>

John Levin wrote:
> John Levin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Something is borked on my Lenovo 3000 N500 laptop :(
>>

<snip>

> 

And one more update: I can log into gnome as a different user. So it's 
something corrupt in my profile. Can't think of what it could be - any 
suggestions?

TIA

John



From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Fri Sep 11 13:01:12 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:01:12 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Logging into a blank white screen
In-Reply-To: <4AAA3252.70503@gmail.com>
References: <4AAA1EA9.2010102@gmail.com> <4AAA2900.2010901@gmail.com>
	<4AAA3252.70503@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AAA3C08.5010206@esdelle.co.uk>

John Levin wrote:
> John Levin wrote:
>   
>> John Levin wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Something is borked on my Lenovo 3000 N500 laptop :(
>>>
>>>       
>
> <snip>
>
>   
>
> And one more update: I can log into gnome as a different user. So it's 
> something corrupt in my profile. Can't think of what it could be - any 
> suggestions?
>
> TIA
>
> John
>   
Hmmm, you say you can get to terminal right?

If you can login to a terminal (either console or other terminal) under 
your normal user account, try renaming .gnome2 and .gnome2_private (they 
are usually hidden directories):

mv .gnome2 .gnome2-old
mv .gnome2_private .gnome2_private-old

Then log out and try logging in again and see if it makes any 
difference.  With any luck Gnome should re-create the folders and fix 
the problem.

If all else fails just rename the folders back.

Hope this helps.

Rob




From technolalia at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 13:55:43 2009
From: technolalia at gmail.com (John Levin)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:55:43 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Logging into a blank white screen
In-Reply-To: <4AAA3C08.5010206@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AAA1EA9.2010102@gmail.com>
	<4AAA2900.2010901@gmail.com>	<4AAA3252.70503@gmail.com>
	<4AAA3C08.5010206@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AAA48CF.7010100@gmail.com>

Rob Beard wrote:
> John Levin wrote:
>> John Levin wrote:
>>   
>>> John Levin wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Something is borked on my Lenovo 3000 N500 laptop :(
>>>>
>>>>       
>> <snip>
>>
>>   
>>
>> And one more update: I can log into gnome as a different user. So it's 
>> something corrupt in my profile. Can't think of what it could be - any 
>> suggestions?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> John
>>   
> Hmmm, you say you can get to terminal right?
> 
> If you can login to a terminal (either console or other terminal) under 
> your normal user account, try renaming .gnome2 and .gnome2_private (they 
> are usually hidden directories):
> 
> mv .gnome2 .gnome2-old
> mv .gnome2_private .gnome2_private-old
> 
> Then log out and try logging in again and see if it makes any 
> difference.  With any luck Gnome should re-create the folders and fix 
> the problem.
> 
> If all else fails just rename the folders back.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Rob
> 

Didn't work but by renaming my .config folder everything is (more or 
less) back as it should be. Thanks for your help!

John




From kaushalshriyan at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 18:21:11 2009
From: kaushalshriyan at gmail.com (Kaushal Shriyan)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:51:11 +0530
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] gopenvpn
Message-ID: <6b16fb4c0909111021t5bf5fafcgaf67e78c7a62a4b3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I am using gopenvpn gui (http://gopenvpn.sourceforge.net/) to connect
to multiple vpn servers. It works
fine. There is a issue. The issue is that the internal name servers
doesnot get populated in /etc/resolv.conf file. I am using Ubuntu 9.04
Desktop.

so i am not able to browse some internal sites
is there a way to populate the internal nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf

With Network Manager, the internal Name servers are populated in
/etc/resolv.conf but i cannot simultaneously connect to multiple vpn
servers.
There is a Bug for it
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/91389

Please guide/suugest

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal


From alan at popey.com  Tue Sep 15 12:54:46 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:54:46 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control
In-Reply-To: <4d950e240909150437q26ca11a9o72a3c756c87e8b62@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d950e240909150437q26ca11a9o72a3c756c87e8b62@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909150454t111a1436i662de3793ccb84ed@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/15 javadayaz <javadayaz at gmail.com>:
> How well has this been implemented in the Ubuntu Environment? A pc
> controlled by voice (especially its media) is what im thinking of here!
>

Seems a popular idea:-

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1826/

Cheers,
Al.


From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 14:24:57 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:24:57 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control
In-Reply-To: <4d950e240909150502icc6d051w8598d06b3a2fc438@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d950e240909150437q26ca11a9o72a3c756c87e8b62@mail.gmail.com> 
	<eba6d2300909150454t111a1436i662de3793ccb84ed@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4d950e240909150502icc6d051w8598d06b3a2fc438@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909150624m12ababb1hafd9b27d3d7e4b9d@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/15 javadayaz <javadayaz at gmail.com>:
>
> 2009/9/15 Alan Pope <alan at popey.com>
>>
>> 2009/9/15 javadayaz <javadayaz at gmail.com>:
>> > How well has this been implemented in the Ubuntu Environment? A pc
>> > controlled by voice (especially its media) is what im thinking of here!
>> >
>>
>> Seems a popular idea:-
>>
>> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1826/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Al.
>>
> it just occurred to me that a voice controlled media centre would be really
> cool.  The only problem i can forsee is, if playing with high volume, the pc
> might not pick up the user's voice.
>
>

Or when you offend your Ubuntu installation by playing loud rap music.
I hesitate to think what effect The Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up"
would have...


From krisdouglas at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 17:21:09 2009
From: krisdouglas at gmail.com (Kris Douglas)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:21:09 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control
In-Reply-To: <f63db7860909150624m12ababb1hafd9b27d3d7e4b9d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d950e240909150437q26ca11a9o72a3c756c87e8b62@mail.gmail.com>
	<eba6d2300909150454t111a1436i662de3793ccb84ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<4d950e240909150502icc6d051w8598d06b3a2fc438@mail.gmail.com>
	<f63db7860909150624m12ababb1hafd9b27d3d7e4b9d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7a11bc210909150921r78c5a1ecs110ca3719767581b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/15 Jonathon Fernyhough <j.fernyhough at gmail.com>:

> I hesitate to think what effect The Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up"

That's electronica :)


-- 
Kris Douglas


From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 18:03:19 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:03:19 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control
In-Reply-To: <7a11bc210909150921r78c5a1ecs110ca3719767581b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d950e240909150437q26ca11a9o72a3c756c87e8b62@mail.gmail.com> 
	<eba6d2300909150454t111a1436i662de3793ccb84ed@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4d950e240909150502icc6d051w8598d06b3a2fc438@mail.gmail.com> 
	<f63db7860909150624m12ababb1hafd9b27d3d7e4b9d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<7a11bc210909150921r78c5a1ecs110ca3719767581b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909151003o437be893kbaa755c174f459e9@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/15 Kris Douglas <krisdouglas at gmail.com>:
> 2009/9/15 Jonathon Fernyhough <j.fernyhough at gmail.com>:
>
>> I hesitate to think what effect The Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up"
>
> That's electronica :)
>
>
> --
> Kris Douglas
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>

Fine, then, I'll change my pitch up.

See? Even worse.


From lproven at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 21:45:07 2009
From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:45:07 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GNOME panel set /not/ to always be on top
Message-ID: <575131af0909151345rbd7e0efkf99416e69d580674@mail.gmail.com>

If folks will forgive me posting a question here that I'm also asking
on the Support list...

I can't find a way to reproduce with the GNOME panel(s) the Windows
taskbar setting I need, which is quite simple: to have the GNOME panel
set up so that other windows can cover it.

The problem with autohide is that it keeps popping up in front of my
foreground application. The problem with enabling the hide buttons and
manually hiding it is that the hide button stays visible on top of my
foreground app.

What I want is a normal panel, /not/ hidden or autohidden, but just
*not* set to be always-on-top.

I've Googled but all I've established is that other people seem to
want the same thing & can't find a way.

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From james+ubuntu-uk at somebody.org.uk  Wed Sep 16 07:25:37 2009
From: james+ubuntu-uk at somebody.org.uk (=?utf-8?B?SmFtZXMgS2VtcA==?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:25:37 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] =?utf-8?q?Opening_CorelDraw_CDR_Files?=
Message-ID: <200909160625.n8G6PbSY024042@ample.ukdc.net>

I've got a couple of CDR files that I want to convert to SVG for use in inkscape. Does anyone know how I might go about doing that without having either CorelDraw or windows available?

Thanks.

-- 
James Kemp

Sent from my HTC Hero
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From lake54 at lake54.com  Wed Sep 16 07:42:10 2009
From: lake54 at lake54.com (James Milligan)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:42:10 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Opening CorelDraw CDR Files
In-Reply-To: <200909160625.n8G6PbSY024042@ample.ukdc.net>
References: <200909160625.n8G6PbSY024042@ample.ukdc.net>
Message-ID: <0B16335E-F30D-4840-A094-964A235EE8D7@lake54.com>

On 16 Sep 2009, at 07:25, "James Kemp" <james+ubuntu- 
uk at somebody.org.uk> wrote:

> I've got a couple of CDR files that I want to convert to SVG for use  
> in inkscape. Does anyone know how I might go about doing that  
> without having either CorelDraw or windows available?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
> James Kemp

Have you had a look at this: http://sk1.sourceforge.net/

That is the link given in a thread on the Ubuntu Forums, and said  
extensive testing was needed, so ymmv.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93967

James


From matt at mattjones.me.uk  Wed Sep 16 07:43:49 2009
From: matt at mattjones.me.uk (Matt Jones)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:43:49 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Opening CorelDraw CDR Files
In-Reply-To: <200909160625.n8G6PbSY024042@ample.ukdc.net>
References: <200909160625.n8G6PbSY024042@ample.ukdc.net>
Message-ID: <dcdb46380909152343v51a31e43p84c471c3064fc738@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:25 AM, James Kemp
<james+ubuntu-uk at somebody.org.uk> wrote:
> I've got a couple of CDR files that I want to convert to SVG for use in
> inkscape. Does anyone know how I might go about doing that without having
> either CorelDraw or windows available?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> James Kemp
>
> Sent from my HTC Hero
>
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>
>
You can use Uniconverter, or I think that SK1 can open them and then
you could save it as an SVG. I had mixed results when using
Uniconverter, although it was quite a while ago now.

Hope this helps.


From james+ubuntu-uk at somebody.org.uk  Wed Sep 16 08:54:22 2009
From: james+ubuntu-uk at somebody.org.uk (James UBUNTU-UK)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:54:22 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Opening CorelDraw CDR Files
In-Reply-To: <0B16335E-F30D-4840-A094-964A235EE8D7@lake54.com>
References: <200909160625.n8G6PbSY024042@ample.ukdc.net>
	<0B16335E-F30D-4840-A094-964A235EE8D7@lake54.com>
Message-ID: <ba03421f2318d1df38cd2c6472994e77@mail.somebody.org.uk>


On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:42:10 +0100, James Milligan <lake54 at lake54.com>
wrote:
> On 16 Sep 2009, at 07:25, "James Kemp" <james+ubuntu- 
> uk at somebody.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> I've got a couple of CDR files that I want to convert to SVG for use  
>> in inkscape. Does anyone know how I might go about doing that  
>> without having either CorelDraw or windows available?
> 
> Have you had a look at this: http://sk1.sourceforge.net/
> 
> That is the link given in a thread on the Ubuntu Forums, and said  
> extensive testing was needed, so ymmv.
> 
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93967

They appear to have moved to http://sk1project.org/ but thanks for pointing
it out, I'll give it a try when I get back home this evening. Lokoing at
the website it looks like there has been some recent activity on the
project. I hadn't looked before becuase the threads on ubuntuforums were
very old and so I thought it migth have been abandoned as too difficult
given the proprietary nature of CDR files. 



-- 
James Kemp

games at http://www.full-moon.info/


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 10:11:23 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:11:23 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
Message-ID: <4AB0ABBB.1030408@sky.com>

I want to make my Firefox 3.5 my default browser. I have looked in the 
System>Preferences>Prefered Applications and it only shows the older 
version of Firefox.

I unticked the make Firefox Default button in the old version, and then 
opened the new version and ticked the box, but nothing has happened. I 
closed FF down, and then reopened it, and its still not opening FF 3.5 
when clicking on links in e-mails, it opens the old version.

How can I make FF 3.5 my default.

Thanks

John.


From jrh at joshh.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 10:17:55 2009
From: jrh at joshh.co.uk (Josh Holland)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:17:55 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
In-Reply-To: <4AB0ABBB.1030408@sky.com>
References: <4AB0ABBB.1030408@sky.com>
Message-ID: <15179.217.32.219.178.1253092675.squirrel@mail.joshh.co.uk>

What version of Ubuntu are you running?


-- 
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From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 10:18:24 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:18:24 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
In-Reply-To: <4AB0ABBB.1030408@sky.com>
References: <4AB0ABBB.1030408@sky.com>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909160218k51daec14y55b91ed916e9fdeb@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/16 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>:
> I want to make my Firefox 3.5 my default browser. I have looked in the
> System>Preferences>Prefered Applications and it only shows the older
> version of Firefox.
>
> I unticked the make Firefox Default button in the old version, and then
> opened the new version and ticked the box, but nothing has happened. I
> closed FF down, and then reopened it, and its still not opening FF 3.5
> when clicking on links in e-mails, it opens the old version.
>
> How can I make FF 3.5 my default.
>
> Thanks
>
> John.
>

Two suggestions would be to either remove firefox3 or to use the
custom option in Preferred Applications to specify firefox3.5.

(Are there any other xdg-defaults settings?)


From dmdrummondx at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 10:29:37 2009
From: dmdrummondx at gmail.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:29:37 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
In-Reply-To: <f63db7860909160218k51daec14y55b91ed916e9fdeb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB0ABBB.1030408@sky.com>
	<f63db7860909160218k51daec14y55b91ed916e9fdeb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB0B001.8070006@gmail.com>

Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> 2009/9/16 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>:
>   
>> I want to make my Firefox 3.5 my default browser. I have looked in the
>> System>Preferences>Prefered Applications and it only shows the older
>> version of Firefox.
>>
>> I unticked the make Firefox Default button in the old version, and then
>> opened the new version and ticked the box, but nothing has happened. I
>> closed FF down, and then reopened it, and its still not opening FF 3.5
>> when clicking on links in e-mails, it opens the old version.
>>
>> How can I make FF 3.5 my default.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John.
>>
>>     
>
> Two suggestions would be to either remove firefox3 or to use the
> custom option in Preferred Applications to specify firefox3.5.
>
> (Are there any other xdg-defaults settings?)
>
>   
This was brought up in an earlier thread, (by yourself IIRC).  My 
solution was:

open a terminal and type the following commands

$ cd /usr/bin
$ ls -l firefox

you should see that the firefox file is a link to firefox-3.0

then type

$ sudo rm firefox

to remove the old link, and then

$ sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox

to create a new link to firefox 3.5.  When apps want to run firefox, 
they run /usr/bin/firefox, which then links to the version you want.

Dan



From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 10:35:41 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:35:41 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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Josh Holland wrote:
> What version of Ubuntu are you running?
>
>
>   
Hi I am running 9.04


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 10:38:18 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:38:18 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> 2009/9/16 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>:
>   
>> I want to make my Firefox 3.5 my default browser. I have looked in the
>> System>Preferences>Prefered Applications and it only shows the older
>> version of Firefox.
>>
>> I unticked the make Firefox Default button in the old version, and then
>> opened the new version and ticked the box, but nothing has happened. I
>> closed FF down, and then reopened it, and its still not opening FF 3.5
>> when clicking on links in e-mails, it opens the old version.
>>
>> How can I make FF 3.5 my default.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John.
>>
>>     
>
> Two suggestions would be to either remove firefox3 or to use the
> custom option in Preferred Applications to specify firefox3.5.
>
> (Are there any other xdg-defaults settings?)
>
>   
Hi, but that is the problem, in my first post I did mention that FF3.5 
is not an option in Preferred Applications, only the old version. The 
only browsers that it offers is the old version of FF, Opera and Chromium.


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 10:44:30 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:44:30 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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Daniel Drummond wrote:
> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>   
>> 2009/9/16 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>:
>>   
>>     
>>> I want to make my Firefox 3.5 my default browser. I have looked in the
>>> System>Preferences>Prefered Applications and it only shows the older
>>> version of Firefox.
>>>
>>> I unticked the make Firefox Default button in the old version, and then
>>> opened the new version and ticked the box, but nothing has happened. I
>>> closed FF down, and then reopened it, and its still not opening FF 3.5
>>> when clicking on links in e-mails, it opens the old version.
>>>
>>> How can I make FF 3.5 my default.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> John.
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>> Two suggestions would be to either remove firefox3 or to use the
>> custom option in Preferred Applications to specify firefox3.5.
>>
>> (Are there any other xdg-defaults settings?)
>>
>>   
>>     
> This was brought up in an earlier thread, (by yourself IIRC).  My 
> solution was:
>
> open a terminal and type the following commands
>
> $ cd /usr/bin
> $ ls -l firefox
>
> you should see that the firefox file is a link to firefox-3.0
>
> then type
>
> $ sudo rm firefox
>
> to remove the old link, and then
>
> $ sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox
>
> to create a new link to firefox 3.5.  When apps want to run firefox, 
> they run /usr/bin/firefox, which then links to the version you want.
>
> Dan
>
>
>   
Hi Dan,

thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.

John


From dmdrummondx at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 10:48:53 2009
From: dmdrummondx at gmail.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:48:53 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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> Hi Dan,
>
> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>
> John
>
>   
What does this command output:
$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*

Dan



From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 10:56:10 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:56:10 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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Daniel Drummond wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>
>> John
>>
>>   
>>     
> What does this command output:
> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>
> Dan
>
>
>   
Hi Dan,

this is what I get

jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 -> 
../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh


That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it 
has shiretoko at the top of the window.

John


From djones.dancol at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 16 11:02:14 2009
From: djones.dancol at googlemail.com (David Jones)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:02:14 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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John Matthews wrote:

> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it 
> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
> 
> John
> 
Firefox 3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko to differentiate between Firefox 
3.0 and Firefox 3.5 and to avoid confusion, see 
http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/161-FAQ-Why-is-my-firefox-3.5-still-called-Shiretoko.html 
for an explanation of the reasoning behind it.

Dave


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 11:03:10 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:03:10 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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Daniel Drummond wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>
>> John
>>
>>   
>>     
> What does this command output:
> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>
> Dan
>
>
>   
Just to let you know, I just looked in the Prefered applications and the 
Firefox link is now missing, and only Chromium and Opera are the only 
choices.

John


From dmdrummondx at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 11:05:17 2009
From: dmdrummondx at gmail.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:05:17 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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John Matthews wrote:
> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>   
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> What does this command output:
>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
> Hi Dan,
>
> this is what I get
>
> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 -> 
> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
>
>   
Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it 
> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
>   

The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar, this 
is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox 3.5 
release.

What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did 
you run them with sudo?

I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail.  You 
may need to put your password in when it asks.

Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.

Dan


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 11:15:26 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:15:26 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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Daniel Drummond wrote:
> John Matthews wrote:
>   
>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>
>>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
>>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
>>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> What does this command output:
>>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> this is what I get
>>
>> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 -> 
>> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
>>
>>   
>>     
> Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
>   
>> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it 
>> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
>>   
>>     
>
> The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar, this 
> is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox 3.5 
> release.
>
> What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did 
> you run them with sudo?
>
> I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail.  You 
> may need to put your password in when it asks.
>
> Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.
>
> Dan
>
>   
Now you have me, I closed the command box, but it did say unable to 
perform command. I entered my password, when it asked for it.

How can I get the symlink back then, and how can get the option for 
firefox back into the Prefered applications. I have tried clicking on a 
link in an e-mail, and nothing happens. So now I dont have that option 
anymore.

John.


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 11:18:22 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:18:22 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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Daniel Drummond wrote:
> John Matthews wrote:
>   
>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>
>>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
>>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
>>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> What does this command output:
>>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> this is what I get
>>
>> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 -> 
>> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
>>
>>   
>>     
> Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
>   
>> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it 
>> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
>>   
>>     
>
> The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar, this 
> is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox 3.5 
> release.
>
> What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did 
> you run them with sudo?
>
> I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail.  You 
> may need to put your password in when it asks.
>
> Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.
>
> Dan
>
>   
This is really odd, I tried to open firefox in a terminal by using this 
command firefox %s and it says its not installed, and gives me a command 
to install it.




From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 11:34:15 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:34:15 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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2009/9/16 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>:
> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>> 2009/9/16 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>:
>>
>>> I want to make my Firefox 3.5 my default browser. I have looked in the
>>> System>Preferences>Prefered Applications and it only shows the older
>>> version of Firefox.
>>>
>>> I unticked the make Firefox Default button in the old version, and then
>>> opened the new version and ticked the box, but nothing has happened. I
>>> closed FF down, and then reopened it, and its still not opening FF 3.5
>>> when clicking on links in e-mails, it opens the old version.
>>>
>>> How can I make FF 3.5 my default.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> John.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Two suggestions would be to either remove firefox3 or to use the
>> custom option in Preferred Applications to specify firefox3.5.
>>
>> (Are there any other xdg-defaults settings?)
>>
>>
> Hi, but that is the problem, in my first post I did mention that FF3.5
> is not an option in Preferred Applications, only the old version. The
> only browsers that it offers is the old version of FF, Opera and Chromium.
>

I might not have made my suggestion clear, sorry.

When you choose Custom you type in the command you want to run. As
Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko) is /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 you can enter the
command

firefox-3.5 %s

into the Custom box (the %s might be a %u, I'm on a Windows machine
atm). This will then run Firefox 3.5 instead of the default Firefox 3.
I do this for running a local (/home/j/bin/firefox) vanilla copy of
Minefield (3.7a1pre).


From matt at daubers.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 11:53:25 2009
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matthew Daubney)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:53:25 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:18 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
> Daniel Drummond wrote:
> > John Matthews wrote:
> >   
> >> Daniel Drummond wrote:
> >>   
> >>     
> >>>> Hi Dan,
> >>>>
> >>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
> >>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
> >>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>     
> >>>>       
> >>>>         
> >>> What does this command output:
> >>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >> Hi Dan,
> >>
> >> this is what I get
> >>
> >> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
> >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
> >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 -> 
> >> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
> >>
> >>   
> >>     
> > Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
> >   
> >> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it 
> >> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
> >>   
> >>     
> >
> > The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar, this 
> > is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox 3.5 
> > release.
> >
> > What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did 
> > you run them with sudo?
> >
> > I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail.  You 
> > may need to put your password in when it asks.
> >
> > Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >   
> This is really odd, I tried to open firefox in a terminal by using this 
> command firefox %s and it says its not installed, and gives me a command 
> to install it.

Hi john,

Open a terminal, type 

cd /usr/bin

Then type 

sudo ln -s firefox3.5 firefox-3.0

That should set 3.5 to the default.

-Matt Daubney



From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 16 12:04:19 2009
From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:04:19 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:35:41 +0100, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:

> Josh Holland wrote:
>> What version of Ubuntu are you running?
>>
>>
>>
> Hi I am running 9.04
>
Try Minefield or Shiretoko under Internet

-- 
Steve


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 12:04:06 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:04:06 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
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Matthew Daubney wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:18 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
>   
>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>     
>>> John Matthews wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
>>>>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
>>>>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> What does this command output:
>>>>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>
>>>> this is what I get
>>>>
>>>> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 -> 
>>>> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it 
>>>> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar, this 
>>> is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox 3.5 
>>> release.
>>>
>>> What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did 
>>> you run them with sudo?
>>>
>>> I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail.  You 
>>> may need to put your password in when it asks.
>>>
>>> Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> This is really odd, I tried to open firefox in a terminal by using this 
>> command firefox %s and it says its not installed, and gives me a command 
>> to install it.
>>     
>
> Hi john,
>
> Open a terminal, type 
>
> cd /usr/bin
>
> Then type 
>
> sudo ln -s firefox3.5 firefox-3.0
>
> That should set 3.5 to the default.
>
> -Matt Daubney
>
>
>   

Hi both, thank you for your suggestions.

@Matt....I just entered those commands, and it seems it has made 3.5 the 
default, but I still cant get links to work when I click them in an 
e-mail. Nothing happens.

@Jonathon....I have that command in Custom field in Prefered 
Applications, but nothing is happening.

How can I get the Firefox back to the prefered applications.

John.



From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 12:07:48 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:07:48 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
In-Reply-To: <1253098405.4087.1.camel@serenity>
References: <4AB0ABBB.1030408@sky.com>	<f63db7860909160218k51daec14y55b91ed916e9fdeb@mail.gmail.com>	<4AB0B001.8070006@gmail.com>	<4AB0B37E.60806@sky.com>	<4AB0B485.4050904@gmail.com>	<4AB0B63A.2070608@sky.com>	<4AB0B85D.2030506@gmail.com>
	<4AB0BB6E.10600@sky.com> <1253098405.4087.1.camel@serenity>
Message-ID: <4AB0C704.3010401@sky.com>

Matthew Daubney wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:18 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
>   
>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>     
>>> John Matthews wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command, 
>>>>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because my 
>>>>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> What does this command output:
>>>>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>
>>>> this is what I get
>>>>
>>>> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 -> 
>>>> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it 
>>>> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar, this 
>>> is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox 3.5 
>>> release.
>>>
>>> What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did 
>>> you run them with sudo?
>>>
>>> I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail.  You 
>>> may need to put your password in when it asks.
>>>
>>> Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> This is really odd, I tried to open firefox in a terminal by using this 
>> command firefox %s and it says its not installed, and gives me a command 
>> to install it.
>>     
>
> Hi john,
>
> Open a terminal, type 
>
> cd /usr/bin
>
> Then type 
>
> sudo ln -s firefox3.5 firefox-3.0
>
> That should set 3.5 to the default.
>
> -Matt Daubney
>
>
>   
I just looked at that in the terminal, and the results say

ln: creating symbolic link `firefox-3.0': File exists

So does that mean its created the symlink for version 3.0 not 3.5?

I copied and pasted the commands, btw.

John



From matt at daubers.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 12:20:14 2009
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matt Daubney)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:20:14 +0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
In-Reply-To: <4AB0C704.3010401@sky.com>
References: <4AB0C704.3010401@sky.com>
Message-ID: <071df47678c8469a78806056000c40dd@daubers.co.uk>




On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:07:48 +0100, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:
> Matthew Daubney wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:18 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
>>
>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Matthews wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command,
>>>>>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because
> my
>>>>>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does this command output:
>>>>>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>
>>>>> this is what I get
>>>>>
>>>>> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox ->
> firefox-3.0
>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 ->
>>>>> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it
>>>>> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar,
> this
>>>> is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox
> 3.5
>>>> release.
>>>>
>>>> What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did
>>>> you run them with sudo?
>>>>
>>>> I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail. 
> You
>>>> may need to put your password in when it asks.
>>>>
>>>> Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This is really odd, I tried to open firefox in a terminal by using this
>>> command firefox %s and it says its not installed, and gives me a
> command
>>> to install it.
>>>
>>
>> Hi john,
>>
>> Open a terminal, type
>>
>> cd /usr/bin
>>
>> Then type
>>
>> sudo ln -s firefox3.5 firefox-3.0
>>
>> That should set 3.5 to the default.
>>
>> -Matt Daubney
>>
>>
>>
> I just looked at that in the terminal, and the results say
> 
> ln: creating symbolic link `firefox-3.0': File exists
> 
> So does that mean its created the symlink for version 3.0 not 3.5?
> 
> I copied and pasted the commands, btw.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Sorry, my mistake, I misread the output from ls you pasted. The commands
should have been: 
>> Open a terminal, type
>>
>> cd /usr/bin
>>
>> Then type
>>
>> sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox

Let us know what that returns.

-Matt Daubney



From dmdrummondx at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 12:32:31 2009
From: dmdrummondx at gmail.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:32:31 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
In-Reply-To: <071df47678c8469a78806056000c40dd@daubers.co.uk>
References: <4AB0C704.3010401@sky.com>
	<071df47678c8469a78806056000c40dd@daubers.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AB0CCCF.8000504@gmail.com>

Matt Daubney wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:07:48 +0100, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:
>   
>> Matthew Daubney wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:18 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> John Matthews wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command,
>>>>>>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because
>>>>>>>>                 
>> my
>>     
>>>>>>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> What does this command output:
>>>>>>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this is what I get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox ->
>>>>>>             
>> firefox-3.0
>>     
>>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 ->
>>>>>> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it
>>>>>> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar,
>>>>>           
>> this
>>     
>>>>> is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox
>>>>>           
>> 3.5
>>     
>>>>> release.
>>>>>
>>>>> What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did
>>>>> you run them with sudo?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail. 
>>>>>           
>> You
>>     
>>>>> may need to put your password in when it asks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> This is really odd, I tried to open firefox in a terminal by using this
>>>> command firefox %s and it says its not installed, and gives me a
>>>>         
>> command
>>     
>>>> to install it.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Hi john,
>>>
>>> Open a terminal, type
>>>
>>> cd /usr/bin
>>>
>>> Then type
>>>
>>> sudo ln -s firefox3.5 firefox-3.0
>>>
>>> That should set 3.5 to the default.
>>>
>>> -Matt Daubney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> I just looked at that in the terminal, and the results say
>>
>> ln: creating symbolic link `firefox-3.0': File exists
>>
>> So does that mean its created the symlink for version 3.0 not 3.5?
>>
>> I copied and pasted the commands, btw.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>     
>
> Sorry, my mistake, I misread the output from ls you pasted. The commands
> should have been: 
>   
>>> Open a terminal, type
>>>
>>> cd /usr/bin
>>>
>>> Then type
>>>
>>> sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox
>>>       
>
> Let us know what that returns.
>
> -Matt Daubney
>
>
>   
That would be the command I gave previously then, both today and on 
10/07/09.

Are you typing these into a terminal as suggested, not the run command box?

What you are trying to do is change the *firefox *link in /usr/bin to 
point to *firefox-3.5 *instead of pointing to *firefox-3.0 *.  That way 
when the system wants to run firefox, it will run firefox-3.5 instead of 
firefox-3.0.

Ensure that when you are typing these commands in, that you get the 
numbers in the right order.  For whatever reason, you must have (in 
error) removed the firefox-3.0 link, instead of the firefox link.

Dan


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 12:31:32 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:31:32 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
In-Reply-To: <071df47678c8469a78806056000c40dd@daubers.co.uk>
References: <4AB0C704.3010401@sky.com>
	<071df47678c8469a78806056000c40dd@daubers.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AB0CC94.2020804@sky.com>

Matt Daubney wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:07:48 +0100, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:
>   
>> Matthew Daubney wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:18 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> John Matthews wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command,
>>>>>>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because
>>>>>>>>                 
>> my
>>     
>>>>>>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> What does this command output:
>>>>>>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this is what I get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox ->
>>>>>>             
>> firefox-3.0
>>     
>>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 ->
>>>>>> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it
>>>>>> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar,
>>>>>           
>> this
>>     
>>>>> is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox
>>>>>           
>> 3.5
>>     
>>>>> release.
>>>>>
>>>>> What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did
>>>>> you run them with sudo?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail. 
>>>>>           
>> You
>>     
>>>>> may need to put your password in when it asks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> This is really odd, I tried to open firefox in a terminal by using this
>>>> command firefox %s and it says its not installed, and gives me a
>>>>         
>> command
>>     
>>>> to install it.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Hi john,
>>>
>>> Open a terminal, type
>>>
>>> cd /usr/bin
>>>
>>> Then type
>>>
>>> sudo ln -s firefox3.5 firefox-3.0
>>>
>>> That should set 3.5 to the default.
>>>
>>> -Matt Daubney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> I just looked at that in the terminal, and the results say
>>
>> ln: creating symbolic link `firefox-3.0': File exists
>>
>> So does that mean its created the symlink for version 3.0 not 3.5?
>>
>> I copied and pasted the commands, btw.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>     
>
> Sorry, my mistake, I misread the output from ls you pasted. The commands
> should have been: 
>   
>>> Open a terminal, type
>>>
>>> cd /usr/bin
>>>
>>> Then type
>>>
>>> sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox
>>>       
>
> Let us know what that returns.
>
> -Matt Daubney
>
>
>   
Ok, tried that command, this is what I get when I run

ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-09-16 11:59 /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 -> firefox3.5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 -> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh


does that mean anything? I still cant get a url to open in firefox though, the only way it will open is by copying and pasting, it should work, so I dont know why it doesnt.

John




From matt at daubers.co.uk  Wed Sep 16 12:35:16 2009
From: matt at daubers.co.uk (Matt Daubney)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:35:16 +0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
In-Reply-To: <4AB0CC94.2020804@sky.com>
References: <4AB0CC94.2020804@sky.com>
Message-ID: <03a5e938a48121e799a0cfbb2df488d3@daubers.co.uk>


> Ok, tried that command, this is what I get when I run
> 
> ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox ->
firefox-3.0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-09-16 11:59 /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 ->
> firefox3.5
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 ->
> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
> 
> 
> does that mean anything? I still cant get a url to open in firefox
though,
> the only way it will open is by copying and pasting, it should work, so I
> dont know why it doesnt.
> 
> John

Check your preferred apps now and firefox should have reappeared. It might
just be a simple case of reselcting this in your preferred apps.

-Matt Daubney



From jakewc2 at sky.com  Wed Sep 16 12:36:01 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:36:01 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default
In-Reply-To: <4AB0CCCF.8000504@gmail.com>
References: <4AB0C704.3010401@sky.com>	<071df47678c8469a78806056000c40dd@daubers.co.uk>
	<4AB0CCCF.8000504@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB0CDA1.1060104@sky.com>

Daniel Drummond wrote:
> Matt Daubney wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:07:48 +0100, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Matthew Daubney wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:18 +0100, John Matthews wrote:
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> John Matthews wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Daniel Drummond wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thank you for the commands, I got all the way to the last command,
>>>>>>>>> adding the 3.5 in, and it says command refused. I think its because
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> my
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> FF3.5 says shiretoko on it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> What does this command output:
>>>>>>>> $ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is what I get
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jakewc2 at jakewc2-laptop:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox*
>>>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-09-10 19:52 /usr/bin/firefox ->
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> firefox-3.0
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2009-09-13 17:09 /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 ->
>>>>>>> ../lib/firefox-3.5.3/firefox.sh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Looks like you've deleted the symlink for firefox-3.0 now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> That is odd, no mention of shiretoko there, yet when I open it 3.5 it
>>>>>>> has shiretoko at the top of the window.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> The name of the program isn't related to the name in the titlebar,
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> this
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> is set by the programmer.  Shiretoko is the codename for the firefox
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> 3.5
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What was the actual error message when you tried those commands?  Did
>>>>>> you run them with sudo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have double checked those commands, and none of them should fail. 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> You
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> may need to put your password in when it asks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ensure you are running them in the correct directory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>> This is really odd, I tried to open firefox in a terminal by using this
>>>>> command firefox %s and it says its not installed, and gives me a
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> command
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> to install it.
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> Hi john,
>>>>
>>>> Open a terminal, type
>>>>
>>>> cd /usr/bin
>>>>
>>>> Then type
>>>>
>>>> sudo ln -s firefox3.5 firefox-3.0
>>>>
>>>> That should set 3.5 to the default.
>>>>
>>>> -Matt Daubney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> I just looked at that in the terminal, and the results say
>>>
>>> ln: creating symbolic link `firefox-3.0': File exists
>>>
>>> So does that mean its created the symlink for version 3.0 not 3.5?
>>>
>>> I copied and pasted the commands, btw.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>>     
>>>       
>> Sorry, my mistake, I misread the output from ls you pasted. The commands
>> should have been: 
>>   
>>     
>>>> Open a terminal, type
>>>>
>>>> cd /usr/bin
>>>>
>>>> Then type
>>>>
>>>> sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox
>>>>       
>>>>         
>> Let us know what that returns.
>>
>> -Matt Daubney
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
> That would be the command I gave previously then, both today and on 
> 10/07/09.
>
> Are you typing these into a terminal as suggested, not the run command box?
>
> What you are trying to do is change the *firefox *link in /usr/bin to 
> point to *firefox-3.5 *instead of pointing to *firefox-3.0 *.  That way 
> when the system wants to run firefox, it will run firefox-3.5 instead of 
> firefox-3.0.
>
> Ensure that when you are typing these commands in, that you get the 
> numbers in the right order.  For whatever reason, you must have (in 
> error) removed the firefox-3.0 link, instead of the firefox link.
>
> Dan
>
>   
Hi Dan,

I copied and pasted the commands into the terminal, not the run command 
box. I dont remember asking back then, but if I did, I didnt follow it 
up, this is the first time I have dome anything about it. I am sorry 
about that.

John


From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com  Wed Sep 16 19:46:07 2009
From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:46:07 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Banking Code section 12.9 - Open Letter to Banking Code
 Standards Board
Message-ID: <4AB1326F.9050103@candt.waitrose.com>

I note that the Banking code section 12.9 advises users to 'Keep your
PC secure'.
http://www.bankingcode.org.uk/pdfdocs/PERSONAL_CODE_2008.PDF

This is something I fully support.

However the Code goes on to give specific advice about how this should
be achieved:
'Use up-to-date anti-virus and spyware software and a personal firewall'.

This is perfectly reasonable and appropriate for users of the common
Windows systems however, many users do not use Windows, and this
advice is badly worded for the millions of non Windows users, and may
cause confusion.

For example I do not use Windows on my PC because even with the
facilities you recommend, I do not regard the system to be secure
enough to do my online banking.

Please inform me of the recommended software for non Windows systems
for functions of anti virus and anti spyware functions?

Alternatively you might like to consider a slight re wording of the
Banking Code so that it may be held in greater respect by PC users who
 choose to avoid Windows, and have done extensive investigation and
are well informed technically?
-- 
alan cocks
Ubuntu user


From sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 09:34:32 2009
From: sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com (Stephen Garton)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:34:32 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] External Monitor Questions
Message-ID: <9474ced90909170134n24dad20bq19ec5d499e73a4a1@mail.gmail.com>

Morning All,

My work Laptop dual boots Intrepid & WinXP. I do most of my work in
Ubuntu, and have recently started plugging in an external monitor, as
we had a couple of spares knocking around the office!

The laptop is a Lenovo 3000 N200, Graphics chipset is reported by lshw
as a GM965.

1) The resolution on the external monitor has a maximum of 1024x768 in
Ubuntu, but 1280x1024 in windows. I also tried a widescreen external
monitor, but in ubuntu could still only get a maximum of 1024x768
(which is also the wrong ratio). Resolution is fine on the laptop
integrated monitor (1280x800 16:9). Any ideas why this would be?

2) Since plugging in the monitor, my wallpaper has disappeared! I use
compiz, but have tried enabling and disabling the wallpaper option in
there but all that greets me is a blank white screen. Interestingly,
my gnome-panels are set to transparent, and I can see the wallpaper on
them!

Thanks in Advance,

Steve Garton
http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk


From lproven at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 14:12:57 2009
From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:12:57 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GNOME panel set /not/ to always be on top
In-Reply-To: <575131af0909151345rbd7e0efkf99416e69d580674@mail.gmail.com>
References: <575131af0909151345rbd7e0efkf99416e69d580674@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <575131af0909170612scc9fd5fkf384e28d8f856c04@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
> If folks will forgive me posting a question here that I'm also asking
> on the Support list...
>
> I can't find a way to reproduce with the GNOME panel(s) the Windows
> taskbar setting I need, which is quite simple: to have the GNOME panel
> set up so that other windows can cover it.
>
> The problem with autohide is that it keeps popping up in front of my
> foreground application. The problem with enabling the hide buttons and
> manually hiding it is that the hide button stays visible on top of my
> foreground app.
>
> What I want is a normal panel, /not/ hidden or autohidden, but just
> *not* set to be always-on-top.
>
> I've Googled but all I've established is that other people seem to
> want the same thing & can't find a way.

Anyone got any ideas at all on this? I'm desperate here!


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From Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk  Thu Sep 17 14:47:59 2009
From: Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk (Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:47:59 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GNOME panel set /not/ to always be on top
In-Reply-To: <575131af0909170612scc9fd5fkf384e28d8f856c04@mail.gmail.com>
References: <575131af0909151345rbd7e0efkf99416e69d580674@mail.gmail.com>
	<575131af0909170612scc9fd5fkf384e28d8f856c04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A721C1298D8E9B488624A6251FC993EF101FF91C@exchange.wnet.mfs.misys.co.uk>

KDE4? (sorry if that's not much help and the intention isn't to start a
DE war, but it may be an option)

-----Original Message-----
From: ubuntu-uk-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-uk-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Liam Proven
Sent: 17 September 2009 14:13
To: British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] GNOME panel set /not/ to always be on top

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
> If folks will forgive me posting a question here that I'm also asking
> on the Support list...
>
> I can't find a way to reproduce with the GNOME panel(s) the Windows
> taskbar setting I need, which is quite simple: to have the GNOME panel
> set up so that other windows can cover it.
>
> The problem with autohide is that it keeps popping up in front of my
> foreground application. The problem with enabling the hide buttons and
> manually hiding it is that the hide button stays visible on top of my
> foreground app.
>
> What I want is a normal panel, /not/ hidden or autohidden, but just
> *not* set to be always-on-top.
>
> I've Googled but all I've established is that other people seem to
> want the same thing & can't find a way.

Anyone got any ideas at all on this? I'm desperate here!


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From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com  Thu Sep 17 16:02:34 2009
From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:02:34 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Banking Code section 12.9 - Open Letter to	Banking
 Code Standards Board
In-Reply-To: <20090917024353.GY5094@bitfolk.com>
References: <4AB1326F.9050103@candt.waitrose.com>
	<20090917024353.GY5094@bitfolk.com>
Message-ID: <4AB24F8A.8050100@candt.waitrose.com>

Andy Smith wrote:

> They are just trying to help as many people as possible without
> getting bogged down in technical details.  It's a one line
> suggestion.  Do you really expect a banking leaflet to go into the
> pros and cons of secure computing?

Yes I certainly do, I do expect a formal banking code to offer well
informed and well worded, competent advice.

The Code will be argued against a ubuntu using victim who has used
ubuntu without any 'anti virus' software (m'lud) and has had their
bank account compromised.

Why accept incompetence in a Code of Practice? It is not in any way
difficult to reword to be appropriate.
-- 
alan cocks
Ubuntu user


From pramclub at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Sep 17 21:03:00 2009
From: pramclub at yahoo.co.uk (Dianne Reuby)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:03:00 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Organising, searching and emailing
Message-ID: <1253217780.3176.34.camel@dianne-desktop>

Our Volunteer Co-ordinator has returned to Uni, so I'm lumbered again.
Except now we have quite a few volunteers to deal with. I want to be
able to:

* keep their contact details, availability, and skills list
* search the list for availability and skills
* email those who meet the search requirements (I plan to do mass emails
of general news for all volunteers through the website, so I only want
to email certain volunteers when necessary)

I've been looking at options, but my main problem is that if I get lucky
and find another sucker :) to take it over, they'll probably be using
Windows so I need something that lets me export the data from Ubuntu if
necessary.

A spreadsheet would let me keep a list, as I've heard that OO Base
doesn't export well to Access, and I'm not very good with Base anyway.

I could use Evolution contacts and categories, but would this export to
anything? 

And would this mean a lot of fiddling about pasting from the spreadsheet
to Evolution, which is where mistakes would happen.

Or should I just use the website? (I'm using Joomla! to create a
replacement website.) Though I haven't found an extension that exactly
fits the bill, I've found one that seems to be near enough.

Any suggestions? TIA,

Dianne



From pramclub at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Sep 17 21:18:01 2009
From: pramclub at yahoo.co.uk (Dianne Reuby)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:18:01 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Organising, searching and emailing
In-Reply-To: <1253217780.3176.34.camel@dianne-desktop>
References: <1253217780.3176.34.camel@dianne-desktop>
Message-ID: <1253218681.3176.35.camel@dianne-desktop>

On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 21:03 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote:

> 
> * keep their contact details, availability, and skills list
> * search the list for availability and skills
> * email those who meet the search requirements (I plan to do mass emails
> of general news for all volunteers through the website, so I only want
> to email certain volunteers when necessary)

Forgot to say I'd also like to be able to create teams and rotas.

Dianne



From ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk  Thu Sep 17 23:28:25 2009
From: ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk (Tony Pursell)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:28:25 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Organising, searching and emailing
In-Reply-To: <1253217780.3176.34.camel@dianne-desktop>
References: <1253217780.3176.34.camel@dianne-desktop>
Message-ID: <4AB2C619.12552.161B64B@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>

On 17 Sep 2009 at 21:03, Dianne Reuby wrote:

> 
> A spreadsheet would let me keep a list, as I've heard that OO Base
> doesn't export well to Access, and I'm not very good with Base anyway.
> 
> I could use Evolution contacts and categories, but would this export to
> anything? 
> 

Don't forget that OpenOffice.org is available for Windows as well, so 
you would not have to use Access instead of Base (and the version of  
Office that includes Access is expensive).  All OOo files are the same, 
across all operating systems, so there are no compatability/export 
issues.

I also think that there is a Windows version of Evolution.

Tony





From philip at stuphi.co.uk  Thu Sep 17 23:54:04 2009
From: philip at stuphi.co.uk (Philip Stubbs)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:54:04 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Organising, searching and emailing
In-Reply-To: <1253217780.3176.34.camel@dianne-desktop>
References: <1253217780.3176.34.camel@dianne-desktop>
Message-ID: <bc9fce50909171554t32992575m8ca433707ff048ac@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/17 Dianne Reuby <pramclub at yahoo.co.uk>:
> Our Volunteer Co-ordinator has returned to Uni, so I'm lumbered again.
> Except now we have quite a few volunteers to deal with. I want to be
> able to:
>
> * keep their contact details, availability, and skills list
> * search the list for availability and skills
> * email those who meet the search requirements (I plan to do mass emails
> of general news for all volunteers through the website, so I only want
> to email certain volunteers when necessary)
>
> I've been looking at options, but my main problem is that if I get lucky
> and find another sucker :) to take it over, they'll probably be using
> Windows so I need something that lets me export the data from Ubuntu if
> necessary.

How about using Google Docs? Then as long as they have a browser, it
does not matter much what OS the eventual incumbent uses. Also, you
can share docs, so multiple people can get involved :-)

-- 
Philip Stubbs


From lproven at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 14:37:40 2009
From: lproven at gmail.com (Liam Proven)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:37:40 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GNOME panel set /not/ to always be on top
In-Reply-To: <A721C1298D8E9B488624A6251FC993EF101FF91C@exchange.wnet.mfs.misys.co.uk>
References: <575131af0909151345rbd7e0efkf99416e69d580674@mail.gmail.com>
	<575131af0909170612scc9fd5fkf384e28d8f856c04@mail.gmail.com>
	<A721C1298D8E9B488624A6251FC993EF101FF91C@exchange.wnet.mfs.misys.co.uk>
Message-ID: <575131af0909180637v34517411k182590ad5fab17d6@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM,  <Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk> wrote:
> KDE4? (sorry if that's not much help and the intention isn't to start a
> DE war, but it may be an option)

Er, no. Sorry, but no.

I'm not moving at this point, but at any rate, I /really/  dislike KDE
- it's gone downhill steadily since v2 and I find KDE4 not only really
truly fugly but also damn-near unusable. And yes, I've tried 4.3, and
4.2 and 4.1 and 4.0. All were /horrid./

KDE is huge, complex, fiddly and was beaten to death with the ugly
stick, but it was a relatively conventional desktop and it worked.
KDE4 is a nightmare agglomeration of nasty widget things trying to
pretend to be a traditional desktop.

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From roachy at roachy.net  Fri Sep 18 20:12:57 2009
From: roachy at roachy.net (Paul Roach)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:12:57 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Organising, searching and emailing
In-Reply-To: <bc9fce50909171554t32992575m8ca433707ff048ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1253217780.3176.34.camel@dianne-desktop>
	<bc9fce50909171554t32992575m8ca433707ff048ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7c1de4ef0909181212n4489023amc6bf702995b577ff@mail.gmail.com>

You could probably get either SugarCRM or Vtiger to do all of the
above...although you'd need to install a webserver.

You can test with VMware though...there's definitely a Sugar virtual
appliance out there and probably a vtiger one to get a test platform
up quickly...

Hope this helps...


On 17/09/2009, Philip Stubbs <philip at stuphi.co.uk> wrote:
> 2009/9/17 Dianne Reuby <pramclub at yahoo.co.uk>:
>> Our Volunteer Co-ordinator has returned to Uni, so I'm lumbered again.
>> Except now we have quite a few volunteers to deal with. I want to be
>> able to:
>>
>> * keep their contact details, availability, and skills list
>> * search the list for availability and skills
>> * email those who meet the search requirements (I plan to do mass emails
>> of general news for all volunteers through the website, so I only want
>> to email certain volunteers when necessary)
>>
>> I've been looking at options, but my main problem is that if I get lucky
>> and find another sucker :) to take it over, they'll probably be using
>> Windows so I need something that lets me export the data from Ubuntu if
>> necessary.
>
> How about using Google Docs? Then as long as they have a browser, it
> does not matter much what OS the eventual incumbent uses. Also, you
> can share docs, so multiple people can get involved :-)
>
> --
> Philip Stubbs
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>

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From jakewc2 at sky.com  Fri Sep 18 20:45:51 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:45:51 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
Message-ID: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com>

I have bluez installed on my laptop. I am getting updates for it, but 
for one part of it, it says 'Bluez' I keep getting an error, and it wont 
install.The rest of the bluez updates install, but not this part.

This is the error....


E: /var/cache/apt/archives/bluez_1%3a4.39-0ubuntu2_i386.deb: subprocess 
new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1

What is causing it, and how can I get rid of it. The update stays in the 
update manager box, and it comes up all the time.

John.



From zleap at zleap.net  Fri Sep 18 23:00:08 2009
From: zleap at zleap.net (Paul Sutton)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:00:08 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] windows 7 features comparison
Message-ID: <4AB402E8.5080508@zleap.net>

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Hi

the following wiki pedia page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

there is a comparison of windows 7 versions, just wondered if anyone
could imagine there was a column for ubuntu which features (or equilvent
) would be ticked,  for example,  ubuntu would have compiz for aero sort
of thing,

i guess multilingual is covered in ubuntu anyway,  but just to make
rough comparison.

This is not about bashing microsoft,  i want to try and make a fair
comparison based on those features, to help our argument for open source
/ ubuntu

Paul
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From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sat Sep 19 09:48:14 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:48:14 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com>
Message-ID: <4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>

John Matthews wrote:
> I have bluez installed on my laptop. I am getting updates for it, but 
> for one part of it, it says 'Bluez' I keep getting an error, and it 
> wont install.The rest of the bluez updates install, but not this part.
>
> This is the error....
>
>
> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/bluez_1%3a4.39-0ubuntu2_i386.deb: 
> subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
>
> What is causing it, and how can I get rid of it. The update stays in 
> the update manager box, and it comes up all the time.
>
> John.
>
>
Can anybody help with this please? I am not sure why it is not 
upgrading. If I look in the Synaptic, it has a little icon next to 
Bluez, that is saying it needs to be updated. But it wont.

John.


From sean at seanmiller.net  Sat Sep 19 09:53:27 2009
From: sean at seanmiller.net (Sean Miller)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:53:27 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com> <4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>
Message-ID: <411df980909190153h3e9bc7adkcbaa9558690fbd0f@mail.gmail.com>

try...

sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get update

...see if that helps...

Sean


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sat Sep 19 09:57:22 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:57:22 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <411df980909190153h3e9bc7adkcbaa9558690fbd0f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com> <4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>
	<411df980909190153h3e9bc7adkcbaa9558690fbd0f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB49CF2.3020709@sky.com>

Sean Miller wrote:
> try...
>
> sudo apt-get clean
> sudo apt-get update
>
> ...see if that helps...
>
> Sean
>
>   
Hi Sean,

Thank you for your message.

unfortunately, no that didnt work. Got the same error.

John


From alanslists at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 10:02:20 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:02:20 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Organising, searching and emailing
In-Reply-To: <bc9fce50909171554t32992575m8ca433707ff048ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1253217780.3176.34.camel@dianne-desktop>
	<bc9fce50909171554t32992575m8ca433707ff048ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <h926ms$2h1$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 17/09/09 23:54, Philip Stubbs wrote:
> 2009/9/17 Dianne Reuby<pramclub at yahoo.co.uk>:
>> Our Volunteer Co-ordinator has returned to Uni, so I'm lumbered again.
>> Except now we have quite a few volunteers to deal with. I want to be
>> able to:
>>
>> * keep their contact details, availability, and skills list
>> * search the list for availability and skills
>> * email those who meet the search requirements (I plan to do mass emails
>> of general news for all volunteers through the website, so I only want
>> to email certain volunteers when necessary)
>>
>> I've been looking at options, but my main problem is that if I get lucky
>> and find another sucker :) to take it over, they'll probably be using
>> Windows so I need something that lets me export the data from Ubuntu if
>> necessary.
>
> How about using Google Docs? Then as long as they have a browser, it
> does not matter much what OS the eventual incumbent uses. Also, you
> can share docs, so multiple people can get involved :-)
>

You could also use a CRM (Customer Relationship Management) application. 
It might be a bit *overkill* but something like vtiger 
(http://www.vtiger.com) is free software, runs on Windows or Linux as a 
web application in the LAMP, MAMP or WAMP stacks, and will enable you do 
everything you need and quite a bit more.

It is multi-user too.

HTH

Alan



From alanslists at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 10:04:52 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:04:52 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia driver resolution support
In-Reply-To: <4AB38D6B.20009@canonical.com>
References: <957338c20909170439had01f42x205c5d7d3f247d1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB38D6B.20009@canonical.com>
Message-ID: <h926rk$2h1$2@ger.gmane.org>

On 18/09/09 14:38, Gordon Allott wrote:
> Roger Lancefield wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm running a dual-head Nvidia 7600 GS on Jaunty with the proprietary Nvidia
>> driver.
>>
>> Does anyone know if the driver supports 2048x1152? In particular (probably
>> not a common combination) does anyone happen to know if it will support this
>> resolution together with an existing 1920x1200 panel?
>>
>> The card and driver have been excellent and very flexible so far. They've
>> been perfectly happy runnning TwinView across initially a 1680x1050 and
>> 1280x1024 pair, and currently 1920x1200 and 1280x1024.

I don't think your card will have a problem. We (at The Open Learning 
Centre) use Samsung 2343BW monitors that are 2048x1152 with no problems. 
even on the inbuilt intel graphics chipsets that come with atom boards 
you can get Compiz running just fine.

My desktop has an Nvidia 9500GT and that is fine too.

HTH

Alan



From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 10:31:39 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:31:39 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <4AB49CF2.3020709@sky.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com>
	<411df980909190153h3e9bc7adkcbaa9558690fbd0f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB49CF2.3020709@sky.com>
Message-ID: <200909191031.39695.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

On Saturday 19 September 2009 09:57:22 John Matthews wrote:
> Sean Miller wrote:
> > try...
> >
> > sudo apt-get clean
> > sudo apt-get update
> >
> > ...see if that helps...
> >
> > Sean
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> Thank you for your message.
>
> unfortunately, no that didnt work. Got the same error.
>
> John

Have you tried removing bluez (possibly purging) and then re-installing it?

-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From rlancefield at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 11:53:41 2009
From: rlancefield at gmail.com (Roger Lancefield)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:53:41 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia driver resolution support
In-Reply-To: <h926rk$2h1$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <957338c20909170439had01f42x205c5d7d3f247d1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB38D6B.20009@canonical.com> <h926rk$2h1$2@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <957338c20909190353y38cfbb14u5bc8e72f870dd271@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/19 Alan Lord (News) <alanslists at gmail.com>:
> On 18/09/09 14:38, Gordon Allott wrote:
>> Roger Lancefield wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm running a dual-head Nvidia 7600 GS on Jaunty with the proprietary Nvidia
>>> driver.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if the driver supports 2048x1152? In particular (probably
>>> not a common combination) does anyone happen to know if it will support this
>>> resolution together with an existing 1920x1200 panel?
>>>
>>> The card and driver have been excellent and very flexible so far. They've
>>> been perfectly happy runnning TwinView across initially a 1680x1050 and
>>> 1280x1024 pair, and currently 1920x1200 and 1280x1024.
>
> I don't think your card will have a problem. We (at The Open Learning
> Centre) use Samsung 2343BW monitors that are 2048x1152 with no problems.
> even on the inbuilt intel graphics chipsets that come with atom boards
> you can get Compiz running just fine.
>
> My desktop has an Nvidia 9500GT and that is fine too.
>
> HTH
>
> Alan


Thanks to you both (Gord, Alan) for the response. It sounds
encouraging. The main reason I asked is that the resolution wasn't
listed as available in the drop-down list in the nvidia-settings app.
I wondered if that list was simply the native resolution of my current
monitor (1900x1200) together with all standard resolutions below it --
rather than being a definitive list of supported res. From Alan's
experience, it sounds like it is :)

Again, many thanks.


From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com  Sat Sep 19 11:59:31 2009
From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:59:31 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com> <4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>
Message-ID: <op.u0h3hf2a3z9ow3@wharfe>

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:48:14 +0100, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:

> John Matthews wrote:
>> I have bluez installed on my laptop. I am getting updates for it, but
>> for one part of it, it says 'Bluez' I keep getting an error, and it
>> wont install.The rest of the bluez updates install, but not this part.
>>
>> This is the error....
>>
>>
>> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/bluez_1%3a4.39-0ubuntu2_i386.deb:
>> subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
>>
>> What is causing it, and how can I get rid of it. The update stays in
>> the update manager box, and it comes up all the time.
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
> Can anybody help with this please? I am not sure why it is not
> upgrading. If I look in the Synaptic, it has a little icon next to
> Bluez, that is saying it needs to be updated. But it wont.
>
> John.
>
Do you use Bluetooth?  If not just delete the the packages, or as many as  
you can without removing other stuff.

-- 
Steve


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sat Sep 19 12:09:40 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:09:40 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <200909191031.39695.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com>	<411df980909190153h3e9bc7adkcbaa9558690fbd0f@mail.gmail.com>	<4AB49CF2.3020709@sky.com>
	<200909191031.39695.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AB4BBF4.7080702@sky.com>

Mark Fraser wrote:
> On Saturday 19 September 2009 09:57:22 John Matthews wrote:
>   
>> Sean Miller wrote:
>>     
>>> try...
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get clean
>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>
>>> ...see if that helps...
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>       
>> Hi Sean,
>>
>> Thank you for your message.
>>
>> unfortunately, no that didnt work. Got the same error.
>>
>> John
>>     
>
> Have you tried removing bluez (possibly purging) and then re-installing it?
>
>   
Hi Thank you for your reply. How do I purge it? Havent done that before.

I use bluetooth with my phone camera. Take a lot of pictures with that, 
and this bluetooth allows more than one picture to be uploaded at one time.

John.


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sat Sep 19 12:35:25 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:35:25 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <op.u0h3hf2a3z9ow3@wharfe>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com> <4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>
	<op.u0h3hf2a3z9ow3@wharfe>
Message-ID: <4AB4C1FD.8000605@sky.com>

ok, have tried using synaptic to remove bluez, but I get this message.

bluez: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1

so there is something not right in my synaptic that is causing the 
problem. What is that error. Its part of the same error message I showed 
you in the first e-mail.

That has something to do with the problem.

I have run sudo apt-get update, to update everything, and it still shows 
that problem.

John.


From sean at seanmiller.net  Sat Sep 19 12:50:47 2009
From: sean at seanmiller.net (Sean Miller)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:50:47 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <4AB4C1FD.8000605@sky.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com> <4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>
	<op.u0h3hf2a3z9ow3@wharfe> <4AB4C1FD.8000605@sky.com>
Message-ID: <411df980909190450s36be0fabo6ec000e8b2fcfdcf@mail.gmail.com>

...and you did the apt-get clean, yes?

Sean


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sat Sep 19 13:02:57 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:02:57 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <411df980909190450s36be0fabo6ec000e8b2fcfdcf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com>
	<4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>	<op.u0h3hf2a3z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4AB4C1FD.8000605@sky.com>
	<411df980909190450s36be0fabo6ec000e8b2fcfdcf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB4C871.5010909@sky.com>

Sean Miller wrote:
> ...and you did the apt-get clean, yes?
>
> Sean
>
>   
Did that, and it still shows in the updates box, and I still cant remove 
it from the synaptic, I still get that message.

John


From alan at popey.com  Sat Sep 19 13:23:35 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:23:35 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Maintenance manuals
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909190523g5fb7d432o9170e655b94c8019@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

In the recent past I've wanted to take apart a couple of laptops to
increase their RAM, or change storage. Some are easy enough with a
simple flap, or removal of the keyboard to access the RAM slots.
Others seem to be more of a krypton factor style task. The Intel
Classmate seems to be one of those. I remove every screw in sight and
it still holds together very nicely. I'm somewhat afraid I'll break it
if I prise it too hard. Which leads onto my question..

Where can I get solid guides for taking apart laptops, more
specifically the Intel Classmate 1st Gen. Google and Intels website
aren't helping much.

Maybe my google fu is weak today.

Suggestions?

Cheers,
Al.


From james at btguk.org  Sat Sep 19 13:26:00 2009
From: james at btguk.org (Dr James Stevens-Turner)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:26:00 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Maintenance manuals
In-Reply-To: <eba6d2300909190523g5fb7d432o9170e655b94c8019@mail.gmail.com>
References: <eba6d2300909190523g5fb7d432o9170e655b94c8019@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01cd01ca3924$5b294e40$117beac0$@org>

Sham it's not a Dell, I have ALL the service manuals for all Dell laptops
and desktops!

Doc

-----Original Message-----
From: ubuntu-uk-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-uk-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Alan Pope
Sent: 19 September 2009 13:24
To: British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Maintenance manuals

Hi,

In the recent past I've wanted to take apart a couple of laptops to
increase their RAM, or change storage. Some are easy enough with a
simple flap, or removal of the keyboard to access the RAM slots.
Others seem to be more of a krypton factor style task. The Intel
Classmate seems to be one of those. I remove every screw in sight and
it still holds together very nicely. I'm somewhat afraid I'll break it
if I prise it too hard. Which leads onto my question..

Where can I get solid guides for taking apart laptops, more
specifically the Intel Classmate 1st Gen. Google and Intels website
aren't helping much.

Maybe my google fu is weak today.

Suggestions?

Cheers,
Al.

-- 
ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/



From mwild1 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 14:34:46 2009
From: mwild1 at gmail.com (Matthew Wild)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:34:46 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <4AB4C871.5010909@sky.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com> <4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>
	<op.u0h3hf2a3z9ow3@wharfe> <4AB4C1FD.8000605@sky.com>
	<411df980909190450s36be0fabo6ec000e8b2fcfdcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB4C871.5010909@sky.com>
Message-ID: <4db9cacb0909190634l6a3f92a6k4e36b18bdae121be@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/19 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>:
> Sean Miller wrote:
>> ...and you did the apt-get clean, yes?
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
> Did that, and it still shows in the updates box, and I still cant remove
> it from the synaptic, I still get that message.
>

There are three similar bugs for bluez, see:

1) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/399482
and
2) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/399555
and
3) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/374426

A manual fix to (1) is described here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7618582#post7618582

A manual fix to (2) is described here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/399555/comments/3

If neither of the above work for you, post back and we'll try and
figure out exactly what is going wrong.

Hope this helps,
Matthew


From neversaymonkey at googlemail.com  Sat Sep 19 15:12:19 2009
From: neversaymonkey at googlemail.com (Vinothan Shankar)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:12:19 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] windows 7 features comparison
In-Reply-To: <4AB402E8.5080508@zleap.net>
References: <4AB402E8.5080508@zleap.net>
Message-ID: <4AB4E6C3.4070909@googlemail.com>

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Paul Sutton wrote:
> Hi
> 
> the following wiki pedia page
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions
> 
> there is a comparison of windows 7 versions, just wondered if anyone
> could imagine there was a column for ubuntu which features (or equilvent
> ) would be ticked,  for example,  ubuntu would have compiz for aero sort
> of thing,
> 
> i guess multilingual is covered in ubuntu anyway,  but just to make
> rough comparison.
> 
> This is not about bashing microsoft,  i want to try and make a fair
> comparison based on those features, to help our argument for open source
> / ubuntu
> 
> Paul

Apologies for the not-quite-complete list.
Right, let's see (below is just for Ubuntu):
32- and 64-bit versions: both
Maximum physical memory (64-bit mode): Approx 64TiB
Maximum CPU chips: probably 64 (standard in Linux kernel, I believe)
Home Group (create and join): Must be a windows concept - I don't know
	what the equivalent would be.
Backup and restore center: Equivalent not installed by default but
	available
Multiple monitors: Yes (hardware dependent)
Fast user switching: yes
Desktop Window Manager: Compiz (hardware dependent) or Metacity
Windows Mobility Center: no equivalent centraliser.
Windows Aero: Compiz (+emerald, maybe)
Multi-touch: unknown (anyone?)
Premium Games Included: N/A (no premium games!)
Windows Media Center: Not immediately after install but MythTV in repos.
Windows Media Player Remote Media Experience:  ...say wha?
Encrypting File System: If you use the alternate CD, with encrypted LVM
Location Aware Printing: Not AFAIK
Remote Desktop Host: not as standard; in repos (for RDP as it's what the
	system we're comparing to uses)
Presentation Mode: No?
Windows Server Domain Joining: Yes
Windows XP Mode: No - though VM's are possible
Aero glass remoting: I don't know what's meant by this!
AppLocker: no
BitLocker: Encrypted LVM again
BranchCache: no (AFAIK)
Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications: N/A - _IS_ a *nix system
Multilingual User Interface: yes
Virtual Hard Disk booting: I believe so.
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From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sat Sep 19 15:47:41 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:47:41 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <4db9cacb0909190634l6a3f92a6k4e36b18bdae121be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com>
	<4AB49ACE.4040307@sky.com>	<op.u0h3hf2a3z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4AB4C1FD.8000605@sky.com>	<411df980909190450s36be0fabo6ec000e8b2fcfdcf@mail.gmail.com>	<4AB4C871.5010909@sky.com>
	<4db9cacb0909190634l6a3f92a6k4e36b18bdae121be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB4EF0D.3040102@sky.com>

Matthew Wild wrote:
> 2009/9/19 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>:
>   
>> Sean Miller wrote:
>>     
>>> ...and you did the apt-get clean, yes?
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Did that, and it still shows in the updates box, and I still cant remove
>> it from the synaptic, I still get that message.
>>
>>     
>
> There are three similar bugs for bluez, see:
>
> 1) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/399482
> and
> 2) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/399555
> and
> 3) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/374426
>
> A manual fix to (1) is described here:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7618582#post7618582
>
> A manual fix to (2) is described here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/399555/comments/3
>
> If neither of the above work for you, post back and we'll try and
> figure out exactly what is going wrong.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Matthew
>
>   
Hi Matt,

brilliant, that first manual fix fixed the error in the update manager 
and also when reinstalling in synaptic, it worked. I have no idea why 
that happened. I have had that installed since first using Ubuntu. It 
just suddenly appeared this past update.

Thank you,

John.


From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 16:16:53 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:16:53 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Error on update for bluez
In-Reply-To: <4AB4BBF4.7080702@sky.com>
References: <4AB3E36F.80902@sky.com>
	<200909191031.39695.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<4AB4BBF4.7080702@sky.com>
Message-ID: <200909191616.54241.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

On Saturday 19 September 2009 12:09:40 John Matthews wrote:
> Mark Fraser wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 September 2009 09:57:22 John Matthews wrote:
> >> Sean Miller wrote:
> >>> try...
> >>>
> >>> sudo apt-get clean
> >>> sudo apt-get update
> >>>
> >>> ...see if that helps...
> >>>
> >>> Sean
> >>
> >> Hi Sean,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your message.
> >>
> >> unfortunately, no that didnt work. Got the same error.
> >>
> >> John
> >
> > Have you tried removing bluez (possibly purging) and then re-installing
> > it?
>
> Hi Thank you for your reply. How do I purge it? Havent done that before.
>
sudo apt-get --purge bluez

-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 18:21:52 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:21:52 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] MP3 player with shoutcast and web remote control support
Message-ID: <4AB51330.6050408@esdelle.co.uk>

Hi folks,

Not sure if anyone can help with this one...

Basically my new phone has Wifi and it will play Shoutcast streams.  Now 
although I can put music on the memory card, I'd rather not have a load 
of songs duplicated on my server and phone.  What I would like to do 
though is to stream songs on my server using Shoutcast or Icecast to my 
phone.

So I wondered if anyone knew of a terminal based MP3 player (maybe an 
MP3 player daemon) that can send it's output directly to a 
Shoutcast/Icecast streaming server and be controlled by a web page (I'm 
thinking either a page on Apache to send commands to the daemon, or a 
daemon with it's own built in web interface?).

Just wondered if there was such a thing?

I did find an application called SnackAmp which is TCL/TK based and 
works on Linux or Windows but it appears that it has a GUI interface and 
can't find the music, plus it needs a display to output to on Linux 
(which isn't much good on my server as I don't have X installed).

Rob



From Rik_Boland at Btinternet.com  Sat Sep 19 18:45:59 2009
From: Rik_Boland at Btinternet.com (Rik Boland)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:45:59 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Hackingtosh
Message-ID: <4AB518D7.8070308@Btinternet.com>

When installing hackingtosh do i need to change my bios?

Can I use it as a vm?

Shalom


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 19:10:06 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:10:06 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Hackingtosh
In-Reply-To: <4AB518D7.8070308@Btinternet.com>
References: <4AB518D7.8070308@Btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <4AB51E7E.9040208@esdelle.co.uk>

Rik Boland wrote:
> When installing hackingtosh do i need to change my bios?
>
> Can I use it as a vm?
>
> Shalom
>   
Do you mean running MacOS X on a standard PC?

If so, you're probably best going and having a look at InsanelyMac at 
http://www.insanelymac.com

Rob



From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sat Sep 19 19:17:36 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:17:36 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing clean Ubuntu in VM.....
Message-ID: <4AB52040.5060800@sky.com>

Hi, I was wondering, I would like to have a clean install of Ubuntu in a 
VM, which I have installed on my machine which is using Ubuntu. Trouble 
is, I cant get it to install. Does somebody have a url to a site, where 
it gives instructions on installing into a VM.

Thanks

John.


From matt at mattjones.me.uk  Sat Sep 19 19:33:13 2009
From: matt at mattjones.me.uk (Matt Jones)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:33:13 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing clean Ubuntu in VM.....
In-Reply-To: <4AB52040.5060800@sky.com>
References: <4AB52040.5060800@sky.com>
Message-ID: <dcdb46380909191133w38cb39b1necd1a9048152df1c@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 7:17 PM, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering, I would like to have a clean install of Ubuntu in a
> VM, which I have installed on my machine which is using Ubuntu. Trouble
> is, I cant get it to install. Does somebody have a url to a site, where
> it gives instructions on installing into a VM.
>
> Thanks
>
> John.
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>

What problems are you having, are you installing from a CD or an iso image?


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 19:38:26 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:38:26 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing clean Ubuntu in VM.....
In-Reply-To: <4AB52040.5060800@sky.com>
References: <4AB52040.5060800@sky.com>
Message-ID: <4AB52522.9090602@esdelle.co.uk>

John Matthews wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering, I would like to have a clean install of Ubuntu in a 
> VM, which I have installed on my machine which is using Ubuntu. Trouble 
> is, I cant get it to install. Does somebody have a url to a site, where 
> it gives instructions on installing into a VM.
>
> Thanks
>
> John.
>
>   
What Virtual Machine software are you using?

Regardless of what you are using, there should be an option to specify 
an ISO image to mount as a CD/DVD drive.

This may give you some pointers, it covers VirtualBox on Windows XP (and 
Ubuntu 7.10 I believe) but the principal is the same...

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox

Rob



From alan at popey.com  Sat Sep 19 19:51:58 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:51:58 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing clean Ubuntu in VM.....
In-Reply-To: <4AB52522.9090602@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AB52040.5060800@sky.com> <4AB52522.9090602@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909191151j3fd2298eu561a5797d1726713@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/19 Rob Beard <rob at esdelle.co.uk>:
> This may give you some pointers, it covers VirtualBox on Windows XP (and
> Ubuntu 7.10 I believe) but the principal is the same...
>
> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
>

The Ubuntu doc site has some good pages about it too.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox

Cheers,
Al.


From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 20:15:27 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:15:27 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] MP3 player with shoutcast and web remote control
	support
In-Reply-To: <4AB51330.6050408@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AB51330.6050408@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909191215j678efd7atd2a3edf1c678ae24@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/19 Rob Beard <rob at esdelle.co.uk>:
> Hi folks,
>
> Not sure if anyone can help with this one...
>
> Basically my new phone has Wifi and it will play Shoutcast streams. ?Now
> although I can put music on the memory card, I'd rather not have a load
> of songs duplicated on my server and phone. ?What I would like to do
> though is to stream songs on my server using Shoutcast or Icecast to my
> phone.
>
> So I wondered if anyone knew of a terminal based MP3 player (maybe an
> MP3 player daemon) that can send it's output directly to a
> Shoutcast/Icecast streaming server and be controlled by a web page (I'm
> thinking either a page on Apache to send commands to the daemon, or a
> daemon with it's own built in web interface?).
>
> Just wondered if there was such a thing?
>
> I did find an application called SnackAmp which is TCL/TK based and
> works on Linux or Windows but it appears that it has a GUI interface and
> can't find the music, plus it needs a display to output to on Linux
> (which isn't much good on my server as I don't have X installed).
>
> Rob
>
>

Ampache should do what you're after.

$ sudo aptitude install ampache


From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 20:17:10 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:17:10 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] windows 7 features comparison
In-Reply-To: <4AB4E6C3.4070909@googlemail.com>
References: <4AB402E8.5080508@zleap.net> <4AB4E6C3.4070909@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909191217o259b0ec7u5c5d1a8c90791b0a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/19 Vinothan Shankar <neversaymonkey at googlemail.com>:
> Maximum CPU chips: probably 64 (standard in Linux kernel, I believe)

I thought it could scale to 4096 now? (Or was that just an xkcd comic?
I forget...)


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 20:31:17 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:31:17 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] MP3 player with shoutcast and web remote control
 support
In-Reply-To: <f63db7860909191215j678efd7atd2a3edf1c678ae24@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB51330.6050408@esdelle.co.uk>
	<f63db7860909191215j678efd7atd2a3edf1c678ae24@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB53185.204@esdelle.co.uk>

Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> 2009/9/19 Rob Beard <rob at esdelle.co.uk>:
>   
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Not sure if anyone can help with this one...
>>
>> Basically my new phone has Wifi and it will play Shoutcast streams.  Now
>> although I can put music on the memory card, I'd rather not have a load
>> of songs duplicated on my server and phone.  What I would like to do
>> though is to stream songs on my server using Shoutcast or Icecast to my
>> phone.
>>
>> So I wondered if anyone knew of a terminal based MP3 player (maybe an
>> MP3 player daemon) that can send it's output directly to a
>> Shoutcast/Icecast streaming server and be controlled by a web page (I'm
>> thinking either a page on Apache to send commands to the daemon, or a
>> daemon with it's own built in web interface?).
>>
>> Just wondered if there was such a thing?
>>
>> I did find an application called SnackAmp which is TCL/TK based and
>> works on Linux or Windows but it appears that it has a GUI interface and
>> can't find the music, plus it needs a display to output to on Linux
>> (which isn't much good on my server as I don't have X installed).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>     
>
> Ampache should do what you're after.
>
> $ sudo aptitude install ampache
>
>   
Cool thanks I'll have a look.  I did find MPD which I have got working 
on the laptop but it only seems to support OGG streaming which my phone 
won't support :-(

Rob


From zleap at zleap.net  Sat Sep 19 20:35:28 2009
From: zleap at zleap.net (Paul Sutton)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:35:28 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] windows 7 features comparison
In-Reply-To: <4AB4E6C3.4070909@googlemail.com>
References: <4AB402E8.5080508@zleap.net> <4AB4E6C3.4070909@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB53280.9080506@zleap.net>

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Vinothan Shankar wrote:
> Paul Sutton wrote:
>> Hi
> 
>> the following wiki pedia page
> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions
> 
>> there is a comparison of windows 7 versions, just wondered if anyone
>> could imagine there was a column for ubuntu which features (or equilvent
>> ) would be ticked,  for example,  ubuntu would have compiz for aero sort
>> of thing,
> 
>> i guess multilingual is covered in ubuntu anyway,  but just to make
>> rough comparison.
> 
>> This is not about bashing microsoft,  i want to try and make a fair
>> comparison based on those features, to help our argument for open source
>> / ubuntu


Thanks for the list below.  I have added one or two comments.
> 
>> Paul
> 
> Apologies for the not-quite-complete list.
> Right, let's see (below is just for Ubuntu):
> 32- and 64-bit versions: both
> Maximum physical memory (64-bit mode): Approx 64TiB
> Maximum CPU chips: probably 64 (standard in Linux kernel, I believe)
> Home Group (create and join): Must be a windows concept - I don't know
> 	what the equivalent would be.
Well Linux systems do have groups,  so this could be a sort of
equivalent, to this.

> Backup and restore center: Equivalent not installed by default but
> 	available
> Multiple monitors: Yes (hardware dependent)
> Fast user switching: yes
> Desktop Window Manager: Compiz (hardware dependent) or Metacity
> Windows Mobility Center: no equivalent centraliser.
> Windows Aero: Compiz (+emerald, maybe)
> Multi-touch: unknown (anyone?)
> Premium Games Included: N/A (no premium games!) but linux does have a lot of games available, 

> Windows Media Center: Not immediately after install but MythTV in repos.
> Windows Media Player Remote Media Experience:  ...say wha?
> Encrypting File System: If you use the alternate CD, with encrypted LVM
> Location Aware Printing: Not AFAIK

Info on this is provided below
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/location-aware-printing

so i would guess if both locations are using dhcp,  then it would be a
question if weather ubuntu can figure out from your ip address range,
which printer to use.

> Remote Desktop Host: not as standard; in repos (for RDP as it's what the
> 	system we're comparing to uses)
> Presentation Mode: No?
> Windows Server Domain Joining: Yes
> Windows XP Mode: No - though VM's are possible
> Aero glass remoting: I don't know what's meant by this!
> AppLocker: no
> BitLocker: Encrypted LVM again
> BranchCache: no (AFAIK)
> Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications: N/A - _IS_ a *nix system

I would guess you could replace this as subsystem for Windows based
systems e.g wine, cedega, cross over.
> Multilingual User Interface: yes
> Virtual Hard Disk booting: I believe so.

I wonder if we could have ability to spell centre properly - microsoft
NO - ubuntu YES. lol,  ok joking a side i think the above would suggest
that feature for feature,  that what ever windows can do, so can ubuntu
/ linux,

I just wondered if the community could make use of this somehow,  after
all microsoft where kind enough to issue fud to pc world et al regarding
windows vs linux

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/09/ms_linux_pitch/

I think its only fair we do something similar only erm lets say tell the
truth as best we can, rather than spread FUD.

of course if MS want to play dirty we can do,

Paul






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From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sat Sep 19 22:49:14 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:49:14 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] MP3 player with shoutcast and web remote control
 support
In-Reply-To: <f63db7860909191215j678efd7atd2a3edf1c678ae24@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB51330.6050408@esdelle.co.uk>
	<f63db7860909191215j678efd7atd2a3edf1c678ae24@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB551DA.5070300@esdelle.co.uk>

Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> Ampache should do what you're after.
>
> $ sudo aptitude install ampache
>
>   
Okay having played with Ampache for a while, I found it doesn't do the 
job.  I think it's a limitation with the phone itself (Nokia e63).  The 
phone supports Shoutcast streaming (basically if I pass it a .pls file 
or give it the URL it will play the stream) but it doesn't like Ampache 
(either the version in the repos or the stable version from the site).

So looks like it's back to the drawing board.

Rob



From neversaymonkey at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 20 08:43:24 2009
From: neversaymonkey at googlemail.com (Vinothan Shankar)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:43:24 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] windows 7 features comparison
In-Reply-To: <f63db7860909191217o259b0ec7u5c5d1a8c90791b0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB402E8.5080508@zleap.net> <4AB4E6C3.4070909@googlemail.com>
	<f63db7860909191217o259b0ec7u5c5d1a8c90791b0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB5DD1C.2060500@googlemail.com>

Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> 2009/9/19 Vinothan Shankar <neversaymonkey at googlemail.com>:
>> Maximum CPU chips: probably 64 (standard in Linux kernel, I believe)
> 
> I thought it could scale to 4096 now? (Or was that just an xkcd comic?
> I forget...)
> 
I'm pretty sure that's just XKCD.
And it's certainly not in 2.6.28, which is what we're using in Ubuntu.
Not that it wasn't a good XKCD!


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sun Sep 20 10:39:56 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:39:56 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing clean Ubuntu in VM.....
In-Reply-To: <dcdb46380909191133w38cb39b1necd1a9048152df1c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB52040.5060800@sky.com>
	<dcdb46380909191133w38cb39b1necd1a9048152df1c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB5F86C.2050305@sky.com>

Matt Jones wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 7:17 PM, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi, I was wondering, I would like to have a clean install of Ubuntu in a
>> VM, which I have installed on my machine which is using Ubuntu. Trouble
>> is, I cant get it to install. Does somebody have a url to a site, where
>> it gives instructions on installing into a VM.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John.
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>
>>     
>
> What problems are you having, are you installing from a CD or an iso image?
>
>   
Hi Matt,

well I get as far as completing the wizard, but nothing happens when I 
try to start the program. So somewhere its not actually installing 
Ubuntu. I did try to do it from a cd, but how can I do it using an iso 
image, is that from where there is a copy on the harddrive, not the cd?

John.


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sun Sep 20 10:42:48 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:42:48 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing clean Ubuntu in VM.....
In-Reply-To: <4AB52522.9090602@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AB52040.5060800@sky.com> <4AB52522.9090602@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AB5F918.4010808@sky.com>

Rob Beard wrote:
> John Matthews wrote:
>   
>> Hi, I was wondering, I would like to have a clean install of Ubuntu in a 
>> VM, which I have installed on my machine which is using Ubuntu. Trouble 
>> is, I cant get it to install. Does somebody have a url to a site, where 
>> it gives instructions on installing into a VM.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John.
>>
>>   
>>     
> What Virtual Machine software are you using?
>
> Regardless of what you are using, there should be an option to specify 
> an ISO image to mount as a CD/DVD drive.
>
> This may give you some pointers, it covers VirtualBox on Windows XP (and 
> Ubuntu 7.10 I believe) but the principal is the same...
>
> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
>
> Rob
>
>
>   
Hi Rob,

I am using SunVirtual box which is what I used on windows to install 
Ubuntu a while back Got that to work using windows but it doesnt seem to 
want to work in Ubuntu.

Thank you for the urls, I will try work through those today.

John.


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sun Sep 20 10:44:56 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:44:56 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing clean Ubuntu in VM.....
In-Reply-To: <eba6d2300909191151j3fd2298eu561a5797d1726713@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB52040.5060800@sky.com> <4AB52522.9090602@esdelle.co.uk>
	<eba6d2300909191151j3fd2298eu561a5797d1726713@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB5F998.1050005@sky.com>

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/9/19 Rob Beard <rob at esdelle.co.uk>:
>   
>> This may give you some pointers, it covers VirtualBox on Windows XP (and
>> Ubuntu 7.10 I believe) but the principal is the same...
>>
>> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
>>
>>     
>
> The Ubuntu doc site has some good pages about it too.
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>   
Hi Alan,

thank you for the url, I will have a look at that today.

John.


From lake54 at lake54.com  Sun Sep 20 12:25:08 2009
From: lake54 at lake54.com (James Milligan)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:25:08 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Global Jam
In-Reply-To: <4AB5F622.20200@soslug.org>
References: <4AB5F622.20200@soslug.org>
Message-ID: <4AB61114.7090006@lake54.com>

I'm not a developer myself (not even a full Ubuntu user) but there is 
bound to be someone on this list that can assist you, so expect a 
response shortly!

James

linux wrote:
> Have already asked on loco-contacts
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am a bit new to this list so still finding my feet.
>
> The Southend on Sea Linux User Group is running a Ubuntu Global Jam on
> both the 3rd and 4th of October, however I have no developers or
> specialists within my group although we will demonstrate as best we can.
>
> I would have thought there would be many Ubuntu developers in or around
> my area we have a large generous venue free food and refreshments,
> parking and two days worth of tutorials. We would like to draft in some
> developers or other specialist such as programmers if we can, I am not
> sure if this is the right place to do it but perhaps someone would be
> kind enough to tell me.
>
> Derek Shaw (Representing Southend on Sea Linux User Group) 


From gbplinux at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 13:34:57 2009
From: gbplinux at gmail.com (Gordon)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:34:57 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Synching calendars, contacts and tasks with mobile phone
Message-ID: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>

Does anyone know if it's possible to do this in Ubuntu, with any 
particular PIM? (Currently synching a Nokia 6500 with Outlook using 
Nokia PC suite)

Ta!



From jakewc2 at sky.com  Sun Sep 20 13:37:00 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:37:00 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Synching calendars,
 contacts and tasks with mobile phone
In-Reply-To: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4AB621EC.9040003@sky.com>

I use Thunderbird and Google Calendar and my Nokia E71 and synch it all 
with Goosynch. It works really well.

John

Gordon wrote:
> Does anyone know if it's possible to do this in Ubuntu, with any 
> particular PIM? (Currently synching a Nokia 6500 with Outlook using 
> Nokia PC suite)
>
> Ta!
>
>
>   



From krisdouglas at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 15:28:33 2009
From: krisdouglas at gmail.com (Kris Douglas)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:28:33 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Hackingtosh
In-Reply-To: <4AB51E7E.9040208@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AB518D7.8070308@Btinternet.com> <4AB51E7E.9040208@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <7a11bc210909200728y447b26d6w5ee193d0b99ce723@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/19 Rob Beard <rob at esdelle.co.uk>:
> Rik Boland wrote:
>> When installing hackingtosh do i need to change my bios?
>>
>> Can I use it as a vm?
>>
>> Shalom
>>
> Do you mean running MacOS X on a standard PC?
>
> If so, you're probably best going and having a look at InsanelyMac at
> http://www.insanelymac.com

Yeah for hackintosh resources, you wanna be on the osx86 wiki, and insanelymac.



-- 
Kris Douglas


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 16:19:00 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:19:00 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Synching calendars,
 contacts and tasks with mobile phone
In-Reply-To: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4AB647E4.6070401@esdelle.co.uk>

Gordon wrote:
> Does anyone know if it's possible to do this in Ubuntu, with any 
> particular PIM? (Currently synching a Nokia 6500 with Outlook using 
> Nokia PC suite)
>
> Ta!
>   
Nearest I've got so far is to use the Calendar and Contacts on Google 
Mail.  I'm able to sync these with my Nokia e63 using the Exchange 
client for the Nokia phone.  Not actually tried syncing Google Mail with 
Thunderbird (with the Lightning Plugin) or Evolution but I believe it 
can be done.  I do this via wifi on the phone and the 3G connection 
(haven't got a data cable and I haven't had much luck with the Bluetooth 
yet).

Rob


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 17:19:47 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:19:47 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Podcast on Google Listen
In-Reply-To: <9474ced90909200849j4f9a1128v69a29b76c324a765@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9474ced90909200849j4f9a1128v69a29b76c324a765@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB65623.4030409@esdelle.co.uk>

Stephen Garton wrote:
>
> Afternoon all,
>
> I've just installed Google Listen on my Android phone, and I can't 
> find the ubuntu-uk podcast on it :-(
>
> Does anyone know if it (Listen) is like itunes, and feeds have to be 
> 'submitted'? I've found a couple of the BBC podcasts I listen to on 
> there, but not sure how the search works.
>
> Steve Garton
>
Not sure but I dare say you should be able to manually add the feed 
(this is what I did on my Nokia).  Doing a search for Linux on the Nokia 
Podcasting app came up with a completely different podcast (non Ubuntu 
related) which I'm going to listen to.

Rob



From gbplinux at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 19:10:40 2009
From: gbplinux at gmail.com (Gordon)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:10:40 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox 3.5 on Ubuntu 9.04
Message-ID: <h95r6v$t4i$1@ger.gmane.org>

Is there a relatively easy way to do this? I find it surprising that I 
can add a repo and get OO 3.1.1, but I can't seem to get FF 3.5!



From djones.dancol at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 20 19:18:05 2009
From: djones.dancol at googlemail.com (David Jones)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:18:05 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox 3.5 on Ubuntu 9.04
In-Reply-To: <h95r6v$t4i$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <h95r6v$t4i$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4AB671DD.6010804@gmail.com>

Gordon wrote:
> Is there a relatively easy way to do this? I find it surprising that I 
> can add a repo and get OO 3.1.1, but I can't seem to get FF 3.5!
> 
> 
Firefox 3.5 is in the Ubuntu repositories.

Try "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5" or search for "firefox-3.5" in 
synaptic.

The only thing to be aware of is that to avoid confusion/conflict, 
Firefox 3.5 is called "shiretoko" in Ubuntu 9.04.

Hope that helps.

Dave


From gbplinux at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 19:19:13 2009
From: gbplinux at gmail.com (Gordon)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:19:13 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] networking Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows 7
Message-ID: <h95rn1$vk2$1@ger.gmane.org>

Anyone managed to do this? I have shared folders in Win 7 but my Ubuntu 
machine won't connect. It just reverts to the log-in screen all the time.



From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com  Sun Sep 20 20:32:01 2009
From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:32:01 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox 3.5 on Ubuntu 9.04
In-Reply-To: <4AB671DD.6010804@gmail.com>
References: <h95r6v$t4i$1@ger.gmane.org> <4AB671DD.6010804@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.u0klvnma3z9ow3@wharfe>

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:18:05 +0100, David Jones  
<djones.dancol at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Gordon wrote:
>> Is there a relatively easy way to do this? I find it surprising that I
>> can add a repo and get OO 3.1.1, but I can't seem to get FF 3.5!
>>
>>
> Firefox 3.5 is in the Ubuntu repositories.
>
> Try "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5" or search for "firefox-3.5" in
> synaptic.
>
> The only thing to be aware of is that to avoid confusion/conflict,
> Firefox 3.5 is called "shiretoko" in Ubuntu 9.04.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Dave
>

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa

for the latest builds
-- 
Steve


From DaveWalker at ubuntu.com  Sun Sep 20 22:01:36 2009
From: DaveWalker at ubuntu.com (Dave Walker)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:01:36 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Podcast on Google Listen
In-Reply-To: <4d950e240909200858g460bf7ccybfa8c54693fac7d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9474ced90909200849j4f9a1128v69a29b76c324a765@mail.gmail.com>
	<4d950e240909200858g460bf7ccybfa8c54693fac7d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB69830.2090609@ubuntu.com>

javadayaz wrote:
>
> submit a request to the listen team.they'll add it for you.
>
>> On 20 Sep 2009 16:50, "Stephen Garton" <sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com
>> <mailto:sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Afternoon all,
>>
>> I've just installed Google Listen on my Android phone, and I can't
>> find the ubuntu-uk podcast on it :-(
>>
>> Does anyone know if it (Listen) is like itunes, and feeds have to be
>> 'submitted'? I've found a couple of the BBC podcasts I listen to on
>> there, but not sure how the search works.
>>
>> Steve Garton
>>
>>
Hi,

I have been checking this daily, and also following the related mailing
list.  It does seem that they do not want direct requests, but are
adding the slowly.  Gradually, more FOSS and Linux related podcasts are
starting to appear, show keep watching!

Kind Regards,
Dave Walker


From linux at soslug.org  Sun Sep 20 22:08:38 2009
From: linux at soslug.org (linux)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:08:38 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Podcast on Google Listen
In-Reply-To: <4AB69830.2090609@ubuntu.com>
References: <9474ced90909200849j4f9a1128v69a29b76c324a765@mail.gmail.com>	<4d950e240909200858g460bf7ccybfa8c54693fac7d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB69830.2090609@ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4AB699D6.3010700@soslug.org>

Dave sorry to but in but are you any closer to calling me about the 
Ubuntu Global Jam I am running in southend on sea

derek

Dave Walker wrote:
> javadayaz wrote:
>> submit a request to the listen team.they'll add it for you.
>>
>>> On 20 Sep 2009 16:50, "Stephen Garton" <sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Afternoon all,
>>>
>>> I've just installed Google Listen on my Android phone, and I can't
>>> find the ubuntu-uk podcast on it :-(
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if it (Listen) is like itunes, and feeds have to be
>>> 'submitted'? I've found a couple of the BBC podcasts I listen to on
>>> there, but not sure how the search works.
>>>
>>> Steve Garton
>>>
>>>
> Hi,
> 
> I have been checking this daily, and also following the related mailing
> list.  It does seem that they do not want direct requests, but are
> adding the slowly.  Gradually, more FOSS and Linux related podcasts are
> starting to appear, show keep watching!
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Dave Walker
> 



From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Sun Sep 20 22:46:53 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:46:53 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] networking Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <h95rn1$vk2$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <h95rn1$vk2$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4AB6A2CD.7020000@esdelle.co.uk>

Gordon wrote:
> Anyone managed to do this? I have shared folders in Win 7 but my Ubuntu 
> machine won't connect. It just reverts to the log-in screen all the time.
>   
Not tried it myself (tried it Ubuntu to XP/Vista and vice versa with no 
problems).

This may help: 
http://www.randyjensenonline.com/blog/connect-ubuntu-810-windows-7-share

It covers Ubuntu 8.10 but the theory will be the same.

Rob


From gbplinux at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 11:52:37 2009
From: gbplinux at gmail.com (Gordon)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:52:37 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] networking Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <4AB6A2CD.7020000@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <h95rn1$vk2$1@ger.gmane.org> <4AB6A2CD.7020000@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <h97ltj$8nd$1@ger.gmane.org>

Rob Beard wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>> Anyone managed to do this? I have shared folders in Win 7 but my Ubuntu 
>> machine won't connect. It just reverts to the log-in screen all the time.
>>   
> Not tried it myself (tried it Ubuntu to XP/Vista and vice versa with no 
> problems).
> 
> This may help: 
> http://www.randyjensenonline.com/blog/connect-ubuntu-810-windows-7-share
> 
> It covers Ubuntu 8.10 but the theory will be the same.
> 
> Rob
> 

No joy still. I still get the log-on loop.



From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Mon Sep 21 14:26:06 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:26:06 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Karmic and mobile broadband
Message-ID: <200909211426.06721.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

I've got an O2 pre-pay mobile broadband USB stick that used to work with 
Ubuntu 9.04, but now that I'm testing Karmic it no longer works. Does anyone 
have a solution to making it work?

-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Mon Sep 21 14:40:21 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:40:21 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Karmic and mobile broadband
In-Reply-To: <200909211426.06721.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
References: <200909211426.06721.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200909211440.21394.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

On Monday 21 September 2009 14:26:06 Mark Fraser wrote:
> I've got an O2 pre-pay mobile broadband USB stick that used to work with
> Ubuntu 9.04, but now that I'm testing Karmic it no longer works. Does
> anyone have a solution to making it work?

Always the way, I haven't been able to connect all weekend, sent the above 
message to the mailing list. In the mean time installed some updates and it 
is now working again.

BTW really like the new look of UNR Karmic.



-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From gbplinux at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 15:30:12 2009
From: gbplinux at gmail.com (Gordon)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:30:12 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] networking Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows 7
In-Reply-To: <4AB6A2CD.7020000@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <h95rn1$vk2$1@ger.gmane.org> <4AB6A2CD.7020000@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <h982lj$jh2$1@ger.gmane.org>

Rob Beard wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>> Anyone managed to do this? I have shared folders in Win 7 but my Ubuntu 
>> machine won't connect. It just reverts to the log-in screen all the time.
>>   
> Not tried it myself (tried it Ubuntu to XP/Vista and vice versa with no 
> problems).
> 
> This may help: 
> http://www.randyjensenonline.com/blog/connect-ubuntu-810-windows-7-share
> 
> It covers Ubuntu 8.10 but the theory will be the same.
> 
> Rob
> 

Seems there may be a bug with Samba and Windows 7...



From linux at soslug.org  Mon Sep 21 18:34:09 2009
From: linux at soslug.org (linux)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:34:09 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Global BugJam UK
In-Reply-To: <4AB7B5A2.6070207@kirrus.co.uk>
References: <4AB7B5A2.6070207@kirrus.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AB7B911.8000101@soslug.org>

Johnathan,

When I spoke to Dave Walker last night three venues where confirmed one 
in Birmingham the other in London and my one in Southend on Sea a two 
day weekend event

This was called the Ubuntu Global Jam and I am struggling to get some 
developers to attend however Dave Walker is on the case, however this is 
still a bug jam just with a few more bits added. If you are in the area 
please pop in.

Saturday 3rd and 4th October
TAP (Old Water Works)
North Road
Southend on Sea
Essex SS0 7AB

Derek Shaw (Southend on Sea Linux User Group)

Johnathon Tinsley wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I've not seen much information here about the Global Bugjam. Are the UK
> meetings going ahead? Are the venues set? Where can I find directions?
> (There is a reason some of my friends nicknamed me A-Z...)
> 
> Best :)
> 
> Johnathon
> 
> 



From dmdrummondx at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 18:36:43 2009
From: dmdrummondx at gmail.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:36:43 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Global BugJam UK
In-Reply-To: <4AB7B911.8000101@soslug.org>
References: <4AB7B5A2.6070207@kirrus.co.uk> <4AB7B911.8000101@soslug.org>
Message-ID: <4AB7B9AB.6080603@gmail.com>

linux wrote:
> Johnathan,
>
> When I spoke to Dave Walker last night three venues where confirmed one 
> in Birmingham the other in London and my one in Southend on Sea a two 
> day weekend event
>
> This was called the Ubuntu Global Jam and I am struggling to get some 
> developers to attend however Dave Walker is on the case, however this is 
> still a bug jam just with a few more bits added. If you are in the area 
> please pop in.
>
> Saturday 3rd and 4th October
> TAP (Old Water Works)
> North Road
> Southend on Sea
> Essex SS0 7AB
>
> Derek Shaw (Southend on Sea Linux User Group)
>
> Johnathon Tinsley wrote:
>   
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I've not seen much information here about the Global Bugjam. Are the UK
>> meetings going ahead? Are the venues set? Where can I find directions?
>> (There is a reason some of my friends nicknamed me A-Z...)
>>
>> Best :)
>>
>> Johnathon
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>   
I believe there is an Ubuntu Cymru Bugjam at Cardiff Library.

Dan


From christopher.swift at linux.com  Mon Sep 21 18:40:29 2009
From: christopher.swift at linux.com (Christopher Swift)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:40:29 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Global BugJam UK
In-Reply-To: <4AB7B9AB.6080603@gmail.com>
References: <4AB7B5A2.6070207@kirrus.co.uk> <4AB7B911.8000101@soslug.org>
	<4AB7B9AB.6080603@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <223466ab0909211040n2ca503adhdb073257949b7cea@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/21 Daniel Drummond <dmdrummondx at gmail.com>:
> linux wrote:
>> Johnathan,
>>
>> When I spoke to Dave Walker last night three venues where confirmed one
>> in Birmingham the other in London and my one in Southend on Sea a two
>> day weekend event
>>
>> This was called the Ubuntu Global Jam and I am struggling to get some
>> developers to attend however Dave Walker is on the case, however this is
>> still a bug jam just with a few more bits added. If you are in the area
>> please pop in.
>>
>> Saturday 3rd and 4th October
>> TAP (Old Water Works)
>> North Road
>> Southend on Sea
>> Essex SS0 7AB
>>
>> Derek Shaw (Southend on Sea Linux User Group)
>>
>> Johnathon Tinsley wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I've not seen much information here about the Global Bugjam. Are the UK
>>> meetings going ahead? Are the venues set? Where can I find directions?
>>> (There is a reason some of my friends nicknamed me A-Z...)
>>>
>>> Best :)
>>>
>>> Johnathon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> I believe there is an Ubuntu Cymru Bugjam at Cardiff Library.
>
> Dan
>

Yes that is correct, Cardiff Central Library will be host to our
translation jam. We will be translating into both en-GB and the Welsh
languages during the jam. An announcement will be made on Wednesday
with full details after our meeting and an in-depth inspection (by me)
of the venue itself.

All the best,
Chris.


From technolalia at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 22:09:46 2009
From: technolalia at gmail.com (John Levin)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:09:46 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Geotagging photos
Message-ID: <4AB7EB9A.6070909@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm looking for a way to geotag photos by pointing to a position on a
map. The mac app iPhoto has this facility (though I'm not entirely happy 
with it's implementation) but so far haven't found anything similar that 
runs on linux. DigiKam has an option for uploading gps tracks, but I 
really want the map. Any suggestions?

TIA

John

-- 
John Levin
http://www.technolalia.org/blog/




From matthew at truthisfreedom.org.uk  Tue Sep 22 11:44:18 2009
From: matthew at truthisfreedom.org.uk (Matthew Macdonald-Wallace)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:44:18 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Geotagging photos
In-Reply-To: <20090922072905.GA21391@manex.tensixtyone.com>
References: <4AB7EB9A.6070909@gmail.com>
	<20090922072905.GA21391@manex.tensixtyone.com>
Message-ID: <20090922114418.xbkz6fece8cscos4@webmail.truthisfreedom.org.uk>

Just be careful with this, I heard recently of a semi-pro photographer  
in the US who had his house burgled after the GeoTags on his Flickr  
account were linked to the facebook page stating "Woohoo! Holiday for  
two weeks! and a twitter post saying "Just arrived, can't wait to get  
to the pool".

The thieves knew he was away for a fortnight, knew he wasn't coming  
back as he had arrived at the destination and knew where he lived from  
the geoTags on photos of his house/kids/cat etc.

Just a thought...

M.

Quoting Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com>:

> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:09:46PM +0100, John Levin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm looking for a way to geotag photos by pointing to a position on a
>> map. The mac app iPhoto has this facility (though I'm not entirely happy
>> with it's implementation) but so far haven't found anything similar that
>> runs on linux. DigiKam has an option for uploading gps tracks, but I
>> really want the map. Any suggestions?
>>
>
> Geotag[1] seems to cover the features you need. Not sure if Ubuntu
> already has a package for it or not.
>
> [1] http://geotag.sourceforge.net/
>
> --
> Andrew Williams
> w: http://tensixtyone.com/
> e: andy (at) tensixtyone.com
>



-- 
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
matthew at truthisfreedom.org.uk
http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/


From maillist at jcrdevelopments.com  Tue Sep 22 15:58:39 2009
From: maillist at jcrdevelopments.com (Jon Reynolds)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:58:39 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Synching calendars,
	contacts and tasks with mobile	phone
In-Reply-To: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20090922145839.GA17523@jcrdevelopments.com>

Perhaps if there is a way to sync your desktop software with gmail, then
you can sync your mobile device to gmail. I sync my WinMob device with
gmail, contacts and calendar.

Some thought provocation hopefully.

Jon

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:34:57PM +0100, Gordon wrote:
> Does anyone know if it's possible to do this in Ubuntu, with any 
> particular PIM? (Currently synching a Nokia 6500 with Outlook using 
> Nokia PC suite)
> 
> Ta!
> 
> 
> -- 
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/


From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Tue Sep 22 16:11:57 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:11:57 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Geotagging photos
In-Reply-To: <4AB7EB9A.6070909@gmail.com>
References: <4AB7EB9A.6070909@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200909221611.57939.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

On Monday 21 September 2009 22:09:46 John Levin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for a way to geotag photos by pointing to a position on a
> map. The mac app iPhoto has this facility (though I'm not entirely happy
> with it's implementation) but so far haven't found anything similar that
> runs on linux. DigiKam has an option for uploading gps tracks, but I
> really want the map. Any suggestions?

If you're using a newish version of DigiKam IIRC 0.9.5 or newer, you can use 
the Geolocation tools that are located in the Image menu. If you click on 
'Edit Coordinates' it should allow you to pick a point on the Google Map that 
appears in the window.

-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From alanslists at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 17:36:38 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:36:38 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Synching calendars,
	contacts and tasks with mobile phone
In-Reply-To: <20090922145839.GA17523@jcrdevelopments.com>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<20090922145839.GA17523@jcrdevelopments.com>
Message-ID: <h9auel$6gi$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 22/09/09 15:58, Jon Reynolds wrote:
> Perhaps if there is a way to sync your desktop software with gmail, then
> you can sync your mobile device to gmail. I sync my WinMob device with
> gmail, contacts and calendar.
<snip />

This what we do now.

Our calendars are stored on Google/Google Apps and we use CalDAV to sync 
to our desktop/laptops on which we use Thunderbird & Lightning.

Google syncs quite happily to plenty of mobiles AFAICT.

HTH

Al

-- 
Alan Lord
The Open Learning Centre

Web: www.theopenlearningcentre.com



From jakewc2 at sky.com  Tue Sep 22 20:16:53 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:16:53 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Message for Dave Walker......
In-Reply-To: <h9auel$6gi$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>	<20090922145839.GA17523@jcrdevelopments.com>
	<h9auel$6gi$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4AB922A5.7040407@sky.com>

Does anybody know if dave walker is around. If they do, can you let him 
know that I am trying to contact him?

Thanks

John


From lake54 at lake54.com  Tue Sep 22 20:29:33 2009
From: lake54 at lake54.com (James Milligan)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:29:33 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Message for Dave Walker......
In-Reply-To: <4AB922A5.7040407@sky.com>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>	<20090922145839.GA17523@jcrdevelopments.com>
	<h9auel$6gi$1@ger.gmane.org> <4AB922A5.7040407@sky.com>
Message-ID: <9471B1A9-BA4A-47A3-BD04-F9C7FD4CAF7C@lake54.com>

DaveWalker at ubuntu.com
twitter.com/daviey (I think)

James

On 22 Sep 2009, at 20:16, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:

> Does anybody know if dave walker is around. If they do, can you let  
> him
> know that I am trying to contact him?
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
> -- 
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/


From jakewc2 at sky.com  Tue Sep 22 20:32:22 2009
From: jakewc2 at sky.com (John Matthews)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:32:22 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Message for Dave Walker......
In-Reply-To: <9471B1A9-BA4A-47A3-BD04-F9C7FD4CAF7C@lake54.com>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>	<20090922145839.GA17523@jcrdevelopments.com>	<h9auel$6gi$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4AB922A5.7040407@sky.com>
	<9471B1A9-BA4A-47A3-BD04-F9C7FD4CAF7C@lake54.com>
Message-ID: <4AB92646.6040509@sky.com>

Thanks James. I think that is right. I have just tweeted him. I hope its 
him anyway.

John.

James Milligan wrote:
> DaveWalker at ubuntu.com
> twitter.com/daviey (I think)
>
> James
>
> On 22 Sep 2009, at 20:16, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Does anybody know if dave walker is around. If they do, can you let  
>> him
>> know that I am trying to contact him?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John
>>
>> -- 
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>     
>
>   



From sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 20:53:15 2009
From: sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com (Stephen Garton)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:53:15 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Synching calendars,
	contacts and tasks with mobile 	phone
In-Reply-To: <h9auel$6gi$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<20090922145839.GA17523@jcrdevelopments.com> 
	<h9auel$6gi$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <9474ced90909221253v59549b97ia59cb00297309a84@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/22 Alan Lord (News) <alanslists at gmail.com>:
> On 22/09/09 15:58, Jon Reynolds wrote:
>> Perhaps if there is a way to sync your desktop software with gmail, then
>> you can sync your mobile device to gmail. I sync my WinMob device with
>> gmail, contacts and calendar.
> <snip />
>
> This what we do now.
>
> Our calendars are stored on Google/Google Apps and we use CalDAV to sync
> to our desktop/laptops on which we use Thunderbird & Lightning.
>
> Google syncs quite happily to plenty of mobiles AFAICT.
>
> HTH
>
> Al
>

Not sure if it helps with your issue, but this popped into my feed reader today:

http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/09/google-sync-now-with-push-gmail-support.html

Steve Garton


From dstansby at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 22 21:00:04 2009
From: dstansby at googlemail.com (David Stansby)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:00:04 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Message for Dave Walker......
In-Reply-To: <4AB92646.6040509@sky.com>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<20090922145839.GA17523@jcrdevelopments.com>	<h9auel$6gi$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4AB922A5.7040407@sky.com>
	<9471B1A9-BA4A-47A3-BD04-F9C7FD4CAF7C@lake54.com>
	<4AB92646.6040509@sky.com>
Message-ID: <95350E55-FE00-4440-8609-018CF10352BE@gmail.com>

Yep, that's the correct Twitter account :)

On 22 Sep 2009, at 20:32, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:

> Thanks James. I think that is right. I have just tweeted him. I hope  
> its
> him anyway.
>
> John.
>
> James Milligan wrote:
>> DaveWalker at ubuntu.com
>> twitter.com/daviey (I think)
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 22 Sep 2009, at 20:16, John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Does anybody know if dave walker is around. If they do, can you let
>>> him
>>> know that I am trying to contact him?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/


From technolalia at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 00:03:51 2009
From: technolalia at gmail.com (John Levin)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:03:51 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Geotagging photos
In-Reply-To: <200909221611.57939.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
References: <4AB7EB9A.6070909@gmail.com>
	<200909221611.57939.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AB957D7.1000705@gmail.com>

Mark Fraser wrote:
> On Monday 21 September 2009 22:09:46 John Levin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm looking for a way to geotag photos by pointing to a position on a
>> map. The mac app iPhoto has this facility (though I'm not entirely happy
>> with it's implementation) but so far haven't found anything similar that
>> runs on linux. DigiKam has an option for uploading gps tracks, but I
>> really want the map. Any suggestions?
> 
> If you're using a newish version of DigiKam IIRC 0.9.5 or newer, you can use 
> the Geolocation tools that are located in the Image menu. If you click on 
> 'Edit Coordinates' it should allow you to pick a point on the Google Map that 
> appears in the window.
> 

Ah! Had looked at digikam, but missed that option. Thanks very much for 
the tip, problem solved:)

John



From Rik_Boland at Btinternet.com  Wed Sep 23 09:28:40 2009
From: Rik_Boland at Btinternet.com (Rik Boland)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:28:40 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
Message-ID: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com>

I am still trying to install itunes on Wine but it wont work - any idea's

Should wine have some form of window/desk top (GNU?) as me just get a 
list of programs to run and itunes is not one them!

Shalom


Rik





From philip at stuphi.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 09:47:31 2009
From: philip at stuphi.co.uk (Philip Stubbs)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:47:31 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <bc9fce50909230147i368fd0f4sac1e8afdd3fe3346@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/23 Rik Boland <Rik_Boland at btinternet.com>:
> I am still trying to install itunes on Wine but it wont work - any idea's
>
> Should wine have some form of window/desk top (GNU?) as me just get a
> list of programs to run and itunes is not one them!

Best advice would be to ditch iTunes. However, this may help
http://www.wine-reviews.net/applications/itunes-73-on-linux-with-wine.html

Also check
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347

-- 
Philip Stubbs


From lake54 at lake54.com  Wed Sep 23 10:02:30 2009
From: lake54 at lake54.com (James Milligan)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:02:30 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <bc9fce50909230147i368fd0f4sac1e8afdd3fe3346@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com>
	<bc9fce50909230147i368fd0f4sac1e8afdd3fe3346@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9C92C60C-7C6F-4680-B12F-37020DB69A86@lake54.com>

There was a massive thread about this recently, best solution was to  
use a Windows VM. Sorry for top post.

James

On 23 Sep 2009, at 09:47, Philip Stubbs <philip at stuphi.co.uk> wrote:

> 2009/9/23 Rik Boland <Rik_Boland at btinternet.com>:
>> I am still trying to install itunes on Wine but it wont work - any  
>> idea's
>>
>> Should wine have some form of window/desk top (GNU?) as me just get a
>> list of programs to run and itunes is not one them!
>
> Best advice would be to ditch iTunes. However, this may help
> http://www.wine-reviews.net/applications/itunes-73-on-linux-with-wine.html
>
> Also check
> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
>
> -- 
> Philip Stubbs
>
> -- 
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/


From alanslists at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 10:20:59 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:20:59 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <9C92C60C-7C6F-4680-B12F-37020DB69A86@lake54.com>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com>	<bc9fce50909230147i368fd0f4sac1e8afdd3fe3346@mail.gmail.com>
	<9C92C60C-7C6F-4680-B12F-37020DB69A86@lake54.com>
Message-ID: <h9cp9r$afa$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 23/09/09 10:02, James Milligan wrote:
> There was a massive thread about this recently, best solution was to
> use a Windows VM. Sorry for top post.
<snip />

Yep - I went through the same discovery a few months ago.

Songbird is about as close as you can get todate and is getting better 
rapidly, but it is not quite there yet. I reckon a few more months and 
it will be *very* close...

For now though, bite the bullet and either dual-boot or run a Virtual 
Machine. We chose the latter using VirtualBox; you'll really need the 
PEUL version for USB support.

HTH

Alan



From gbplinux at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 10:31:01 2009
From: gbplinux at gmail.com (Gordon)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:31:01 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <h9cpsn$cb6$1@ger.gmane.org>

Rik Boland wrote:
> I am still trying to install itunes on Wine but it wont work - any idea's
> 
> Should wine have some form of window/desk top (GNU?) as me just get a 
> list of programs to run and itunes is not one them!
> 
> Shalom
> 

Not really an answer but I went through this recently and I've ditched 
iTunes completely, even on Windows. There are so many other legal music 
download sites now that do not have the restrictions and DRM of iTunes 
and some are considerably cheaper.
My son-in-law told me of a site www.legalsounds.com where an MP3 
download is US$0.09!!!!! that's about FOUR pence!



From alan at popey.com  Wed Sep 23 10:41:45 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:41:45 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <h9cpsn$cb6$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com> <h9cpsn$cb6$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909230241p319a1dc7x1ed487cde969a1@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/23 Gordon <gbplinux at gmail.com>:
> Not really an answer but I went through this recently and I've ditched
> iTunes completely, even on Windows. There are so many other legal music
> download sites now that do not have the restrictions and DRM of iTunes
> and some are considerably cheaper.

It's not just about music downloads though is it. I use iTunes on a
Mac with two iPods and there's other stuff that iTunes sadly does over
and above music downloads.

* Podcast management is better than any other combined download and
syncing tool on Ubuntu (IMO)
* Firmware updates to the player can only be done via iTunes (as far
as I can tell).
* Syncing everything to the right categories so the menus make sense
on the player.

Don't get me wrong, I hate iTunes, but sadly it works.

Cheers,
Al.


From alan at popey.com  Wed Sep 23 11:30:00 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:30:00 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: New LoCo Council Members sought..
In-Reply-To: <eba6d2300909230326p53acbe4dn7af6a59b5c69063b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <eba6d2300909230326p53acbe4dn7af6a59b5c69063b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909230330j27bd35abj804d36794ae897c9@mail.gmail.com>

FYI: Please read.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alan Pope <alan at popey.com>
Date: 2009/9/23
Subject: New LoCo Council Members sought..
To: "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts"
<loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>


Hi LoCo teams!

A little while ago Nick Ali stepped down from the LoCo Council. We
were of course very sad to see this happen, and would like to thank
Nick for his great work on the Council. However, we are now down one
person, and need to find a new member. I'm writing this mail to ask
for volunteers to step forward and nominate themselves or another
willing person for this position. There is only one position
available, so if more than one person steps forward, there will be a
vote to decide on the successful candidate.

The LoCo Council is defined on the wiki [0]. We meet up once a month
over IRC to go through items on the team agenda [1]. This typically
involves approving new LoCo teams, resolving issues within teams,
approving LoCo team mailing list requests, and anything else that
comes along.

The process by which a new member of the Council is selected is
defined by the Community Council is outlined on the wiki [2].

The first stage is for people to nominate themselves, or be nominated
by someone else. We will confirm with each person whether they
actually want to be put forward or not. We will give ~2 weeks for this
process. Please pass this mail back to your own LoCo team so everyone
is aware of the process. We welcome nominations from anywhere in the
world, and from any LoCo team. Nominees do not need to be a LoCo Team
Leader to be nominated for this post. We are however looking for
people who are active in their LoCo Team.

** Please send nominations to loco-council at lists.ubuntu.com which is a
private mailing list only for the LoCo Council members. **

The above mailin list is moderated, however all nomination mails will
be approved before the end of the nomination period

If you'd like to ask any of the LoCo Council members questions
privately then you contact us individually [3] or use the above
mailing list address.

** The nomination process starts now, and ends at 00:01 UTC on 7th
October 2009. **

Once this period is over the LoCo Council will collate the nominations
and double check that each person nominated is still happy to stand.
We will then pass this list to the CC as per the process outlined at
[2].

Many thanks,
Ubuntu LoCo Council.

[0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil
[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Delegation
[3] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lococouncil/+members


From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 11:33:06 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:33:06 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <1253699672.4678.14.camel@smegol>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com> <h9cpsn$cb6$1@ger.gmane.org> 
	<4cc601d30909230248k7aef4dfk4316bcdf4f1a3c09@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1253699672.4678.14.camel@smegol>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909230333t752bc5d8hcd6654dc0bfda1a3@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/23 Dave Morley <davmor2 at davmor2.co.uk>:
> On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:48 +0100, Bruce Beardall wrote:
>> Amazon Mp3
> Seconded and has a linux downloader. ?It is easy to search and use an is
> of identical quality to itunes. ?Plus great service.
>
> Magnatunes has some great music on for unknown bands. ?The only issue
> there is they don't accept debit card and it takes a while to find a
> group with music that you like, however when you do the music is amasing
> I thoroughly recommend this :) ?8 dollars for an entire digital album
> too.
>
> --
> ?Thy Might Know
>
> http://www.davmor2.co.uk
>
> --

WRT Magnatune I highly recommend the download membership for $10 a
month. Not only do you get to stream in high-quality mp3 or ogg with
no adverts (or preview notices) but you can download however many
albums you want in whatever format you want (inc. FLAC, WAV) (though
obviously if you buy an album you can do this too).

Jamendo is also worth a look.


From daniel.spain at jenrickcpi.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 11:34:35 2009
From: daniel.spain at jenrickcpi.co.uk (Daniel Spain)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:34:35 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <F7B3C10AF4734885BFE319A38D8164AD@SIMONTS02>

Rik said:
> I am still trying to install itunes on Wine but it wont work - any idea's
> 
> Should wine have some form of window/desk top (GNU?) as me just get a
> list of programs to run and itunes is not one them!

What version are you trying to install?

Itunes v 8.0 is the most likely one to install and work well in wine. I
definitely had it working in the past on Ibex, not tried on jaunty, but
can't see why it wouldn't still work.



Dan



From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 23 11:58:15 2009
From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:58:15 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <1253699672.4678.14.camel@smegol>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com> <h9cpsn$cb6$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4cc601d30909230248k7aef4dfk4316bcdf4f1a3c09@mail.gmail.com>
	<1253699672.4678.14.camel@smegol>
Message-ID: <op.u0ph3bwm3z9ow3@wharfe>

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:54:32 +0100, Dave Morley <davmor2 at davmor2.co.uk>  
wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:48 +0100, Bruce Beardall wrote:
>> Amazon Mp3
> Seconded and has a linux downloader.  It is easy to search and use an is
> of identical quality to itunes.  Plus great service.
>
> Magnatunes has some great music on for unknown bands.  The only issue
> there is they don't accept debit card and it takes a while to find a
> group with music that you like, however when you do the music is amasing
> I thoroughly recommend this :)  8 dollars for an entire digital album
> too.
>
http://www.jamendo.com/ is worth a look/listen.


-- 
Steve


From anton at piatek.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 14:28:12 2009
From: anton at piatek.co.uk (Anton Piatek)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:28:12 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <op.u0ph3bwm3z9ow3@wharfe>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com> <h9cpsn$cb6$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4cc601d30909230248k7aef4dfk4316bcdf4f1a3c09@mail.gmail.com>
	<1253699672.4678.14.camel@smegol> <op.u0ph3bwm3z9ow3@wharfe>
Message-ID: <aaeb67eb0909230628y5c037e15l188ddaf1bf16e8ac@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/23 Steve <yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com>:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:54:32 +0100, Dave Morley <davmor2 at davmor2.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:48 +0100, Bruce Beardall wrote:
>>> Amazon Mp3
>> Seconded and has a linux downloader. ?It is easy to search and use an is
>> of identical quality to itunes. ?Plus great service.
>>
>> Magnatunes has some great music on for unknown bands. ?The only issue
>> there is they don't accept debit card and it takes a while to find a
>> group with music that you like, however when you do the music is amasing
>> I thoroughly recommend this :) ?8 dollars for an entire digital album
>> too.
>>
> http://www.jamendo.com/ is worth a look/listen.

I use Amarok for my ipod, though admittedly have not tried podcasts or
video with it, though I believe it is supposed to work.
The iphone however i believe does not work with linux at all - so you
will need itunes for that.

Anton

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From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 15:49:26 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:49:26 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
Message-ID: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04 for use 
with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application - preferably one which 
will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of her usage?

-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From gbplinux at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 15:53:52 2009
From: gbplinux at gmail.com (Gordon)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:53:52 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
Message-ID: <h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org>

Mark Fraser wrote:
> I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04 for use 
> with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application - preferably one which 
> will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of her usage?
> 

Not an answer but a question - does Orange Mobile BB work in 9.04? (Got 
a Tosh NB100 running 9.04 myself...)



From alanslists at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 16:03:45 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:03:45 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <h9ddci$g1i$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 23/09/09 15:53, Gordon wrote:
> Mark Fraser wrote:
>> I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04 for use
>> with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application - preferably one which
>> will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of her usage?

This won't sit in the top but will keep a track of usage and enables SMS 
support: http://wader-project.org/ (We funded a good chunk of this project).

> Not an answer but a question - does Orange Mobile BB work in 9.04? (Got
> a Tosh NB100 running 9.04 myself...)

Not the right question. It's the dongle, not the network that usually 
causes the problems. I have an Option 225 3G Dongle which I got with an 
Orange UK contract, this works fine in Jaunty and usually in Karmic.

HTH

Alan

--
The Open Learning Centre
www: http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com



From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 16:09:57 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:09:57 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200909231609.57396.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

On Wednesday 23 September 2009 15:53:52 Gordon wrote:
> Mark Fraser wrote:
> > I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04 for
> > use with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application - preferably
> > one which will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of her usage?
>
> Not an answer but a question - does Orange Mobile BB work in 9.04? (Got
> a Tosh NB100 running 9.04 myself...)

Yes, it does - I've had it running on a Tosh NB100 running 9.10a6 though - 
I've also had success with O2's stick too after changing the connection 
details.

Doesn't look like there's many of the original NB100s around as I've had to 
buy a reconditioned one from Comet as my local store had one left on display 
sans battery.

-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 16:16:49 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:16:49 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <h9ddci$g1i$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>	<h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<h9ddci$g1i$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4ABA3BE1.3010700@esdelle.co.uk>

Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> On 23/09/09 15:53, Gordon wrote:
>   
>> Mark Fraser wrote:
>>     
>>> I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04 for use
>>> with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application - preferably one which
>>> will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of her usage?
>>>       
>
> This won't sit in the top but will keep a track of usage and enables SMS 
> support: http://wader-project.org/ (We funded a good chunk of this project).
>
>   
That looks ideal.  I guess this does usage and also signal strength?

Ta,

Rob



From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 16:17:01 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:17:01 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <h9ddci$g1i$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org> <h9ddci$g1i$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200909231617.01496.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

On Wednesday 23 September 2009 16:03:45 Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> On 23/09/09 15:53, Gordon wrote:
> > Mark Fraser wrote:
> >> I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04
> >> for use with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application -
> >> preferably one which will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of
> >> her usage?
>
> This won't sit in the top but will keep a track of usage and enables SMS
> support: http://wader-project.org/ (We funded a good chunk of this
> project).

That doesn't seem to support the Huawei E160 modem and will it conflict with 
network-manager?

-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 16:19:44 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:19:44 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <200909231609.57396.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>	<h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200909231609.57396.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4ABA3C90.2070605@esdelle.co.uk>

Mark Fraser wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 September 2009 15:53:52 Gordon wrote:
>   
>> Mark Fraser wrote:
>>     
>>> I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04 for
>>> use with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application - preferably
>>> one which will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of her usage?
>>>       
>> Not an answer but a question - does Orange Mobile BB work in 9.04? (Got
>> a Tosh NB100 running 9.04 myself...)
>>     
>
> Yes, it does - I've had it running on a Tosh NB100 running 9.10a6 though - 
> I've also had success with O2's stick too after changing the connection 
> details.
>
> Doesn't look like there's many of the original NB100s around as I've had to 
> buy a reconditioned one from Comet as my local store had one left on display 
> sans battery.
>   
Ahh yeah Comet have a habit of doing that.  When I bought my Acer Aspire 
2920 it was an ex-demo model without the battery.  Luckily they paid for 
a replacement battery and gave me ?50 off.

I keep seeing Windows Tosh netbooks advertised at Aria.co.uk for about 
?200, shame that they don't appear to do the Linux based ones anymore as 
at ?200 even I'd be tempted.

Rob





From alanslists at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 16:23:49 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:23:49 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <200909231617.01496.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>	<h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<h9ddci$g1i$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200909231617.01496.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
Message-ID: <h9dei5$jr8$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 23/09/09 16:17, Mark Fraser wrote:
<snip />
>
> That doesn't seem to support the Huawei E160 modem and will it conflict with
> network-manager?
>

Just install it and try it: https://launchpad.net/wader/

(It won't conflict with NM, it works with it...)

Al



From alanslists at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 16:27:39 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:27:39 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <h9dei5$jr8$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>	<h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org>	<h9ddci$g1i$1@ger.gmane.org>	<200909231617.01496.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<h9dei5$jr8$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <h9depb$jr8$2@ger.gmane.org>

On 23/09/09 16:23, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
<snip />
> Just install it and try it: https://launchpad.net/wader/

Sorry my bad. This is a better link: 
https://launchpad.net/~wader/+archive/ppa

Al



From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 16:40:53 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:40:53 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <4ABA3C90.2070605@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<200909231609.57396.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<4ABA3C90.2070605@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200909231640.53774.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

On Wednesday 23 September 2009 16:19:44 Rob Beard wrote:
> Mark Fraser wrote:
> > On Wednesday 23 September 2009 15:53:52 Gordon wrote:
> >> Mark Fraser wrote:
> >>> I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04
> >>> for use with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application -
> >>> preferably one which will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of
> >>> her usage?
> >>
> >> Not an answer but a question - does Orange Mobile BB work in 9.04? (Got
> >> a Tosh NB100 running 9.04 myself...)
> >
> > Yes, it does - I've had it running on a Tosh NB100 running 9.10a6 though
> > - I've also had success with O2's stick too after changing the connection
> > details.
> >
> > Doesn't look like there's many of the original NB100s around as I've had
> > to buy a reconditioned one from Comet as my local store had one left on
> > display sans battery.
>
> Ahh yeah Comet have a habit of doing that.  When I bought my Acer Aspire
> 2920 it was an ex-demo model without the battery.  Luckily they paid for
> a replacement battery and gave me ?50 off.
>
> I keep seeing Windows Tosh netbooks advertised at Aria.co.uk for about
> ?200, shame that they don't appear to do the Linux based ones anymore as
> at ?200 even I'd be tempted.

No the NB100-11R models which were the Ubuntu ones are now discontinued, the 
NB200 series are Windows only and I don't think Ubuntu will run on them yet.


-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 16:57:49 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:57:49 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <200909231640.53774.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>	<200909231609.57396.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>	<4ABA3C90.2070605@esdelle.co.uk>
	<200909231640.53774.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4ABA457D.2020907@esdelle.co.uk>

Mark Fraser wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 September 2009 16:19:44 Rob Beard wrote:
>   
>> Mark Fraser wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wednesday 23 September 2009 15:53:52 Gordon wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Mark Fraser wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04
>>>>> for use with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application -
>>>>> preferably one which will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of
>>>>> her usage?
>>>>>           
>>>> Not an answer but a question - does Orange Mobile BB work in 9.04? (Got
>>>> a Tosh NB100 running 9.04 myself...)
>>>>         
>>> Yes, it does - I've had it running on a Tosh NB100 running 9.10a6 though
>>> - I've also had success with O2's stick too after changing the connection
>>> details.
>>>
>>> Doesn't look like there's many of the original NB100s around as I've had
>>> to buy a reconditioned one from Comet as my local store had one left on
>>> display sans battery.
>>>       
>> Ahh yeah Comet have a habit of doing that.  When I bought my Acer Aspire
>> 2920 it was an ex-demo model without the battery.  Luckily they paid for
>> a replacement battery and gave me ?50 off.
>>
>> I keep seeing Windows Tosh netbooks advertised at Aria.co.uk for about
>> ?200, shame that they don't appear to do the Linux based ones anymore as
>> at ?200 even I'd be tempted.
>>     
>
> No the NB100-11R models which were the Ubuntu ones are now discontinued, the 
> NB200 series are Windows only and I don't think Ubuntu will run on them yet.
>   
The ones Aria have are NB100-12R, I presume they're the Windows versions 
and being sold off due to the NB200 coming out.

*http://tinyurl.com/ko68x5

Rob
*



From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Thu Sep 24 14:29:38 2009
From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:29:38 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <h9dei5$jr8$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<200909231617.01496.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<h9dei5$jr8$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200909241429.38736.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>

On Wednesday 23 September 2009 16:23:49 Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> On 23/09/09 16:17, Mark Fraser wrote:
> <snip />
>
> > That doesn't seem to support the Huawei E160 modem and will it conflict
> > with network-manager?
>
> Just install it and try it: https://launchpad.net/wader/
>
> (It won't conflict with NM, it works with it...)
>
> Al

Can't seem to get it to work, after clicking 'connect' I get a big message box 
saying:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did 
not sent a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the 
reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

NetworkManager connects straight away with exactly the same settings.

-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org




From liamwilson93 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 16:15:40 2009
From: liamwilson93 at gmail.com (Liam Wilson)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:15:40 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Cups Error 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'
Message-ID: <4ABE301C.4030108@gmail.com>

Hey all;
    I've just bought myself a new Kodak ESP 3 all in one printer, and 
upon opening the printer configuration Dialogue to see if there are 
drivers available for it, I find the 'New' button is grayed out. I then 
went to Server -> Connect and selected 'localhost' as my print server. 
After frying to connect to it, I get the error

There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt 
failed'.

What can be done to resolve this error, as I need this printer to work 
for my ICT course.

Many, many thanks;
Liam Wilson


From ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk  Sat Sep 26 16:55:29 2009
From: ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk (Tony Pursell)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:55:29 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Cups Error 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'
In-Reply-To: <4ABE301C.4030108@gmail.com>
References: <4ABE301C.4030108@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ABE4781.6219.5B8E3B@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>

On 26 Sep 2009 at 16:15, Liam Wilson wrote:
> 
> Hey all;
>     I've just bought myself a new Kodak ESP 3 all in one printer, and 
> upon opening the printer configuration Dialogue to see if there are 
> drivers available for it, I find the 'New' button is grayed out. I then 
> went to Server -> Connect and selected 'localhost' as my print server. 
> After frying to connect to it, I get the error
> 
> There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt 
> failed'.
> 
> What can be done to resolve this error, as I need this printer to work 
> for my ICT course.
> 
> Many, many thanks;
> Liam Wilson
> 
> -- 
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> 

Have a look at 

http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Kodak-
EasyShare_Printer_Dock_Plus_Series_3

That is for the EasyShare Printer Dock Plus Series 3.  Its given an 
'mostly works' rating.  

The information on the EasyShare Printer Dock Series 3 (I.e not 'Plus') 
is that it does not work ('paperweight rating').  

Go to

http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Kodak

to see all Kodak printers.

There may be drivers on the Kodak website.  

Tony




From liamwilson93 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 18:19:31 2009
From: liamwilson93 at gmail.com (Liam Wilson)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:19:31 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Cups Error 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'
In-Reply-To: <4ABE4781.6219.5B8E3B@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>
References: <4ABE301C.4030108@gmail.com>
	<4ABE4781.6219.5B8E3B@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4ABE4D23.3@gmail.com>

Tony Pursell wrote:
> On 26 Sep 2009 at 16:15, Liam Wilson wrote:
>   
>> Hey all;
>>     I've just bought myself a new Kodak ESP 3 all in one printer, and 
>> upon opening the printer configuration Dialogue to see if there are 
>> drivers available for it, I find the 'New' button is grayed out. I then 
>> went to Server -> Connect and selected 'localhost' as my print server. 
>> After frying to connect to it, I get the error
>>
>> There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt 
>> failed'.
>>
>> What can be done to resolve this error, as I need this printer to work 
>> for my ICT course.
>>
>> Many, many thanks;
>> Liam Wilson
>>
>> -- 
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>
>>     
>
> Have a look at 
>
> http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Kodak-
> EasyShare_Printer_Dock_Plus_Series_3
>
> That is for the EasyShare Printer Dock Plus Series 3.  Its given an 
> 'mostly works' rating.  
>
> The information on the EasyShare Printer Dock Series 3 (I.e not 'Plus') 
> is that it does not work ('paperweight rating').  
>
> Go to
>
> http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Kodak
>
> to see all Kodak printers.
>
> There may be drivers on the Kodak website.  
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>   
Turns out that I needed to start cups before i could install a printer, 
but it ALSO turns out that there are NO linux drivers for my driver. At 
all, which I'm not at all happy about! :)

Liam Wilson


From j.fernyhough at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 20:09:47 2009
From: j.fernyhough at gmail.com (Jonathon Fernyhough)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:09:47 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Cups Error 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'
In-Reply-To: <4ABE4D23.3@gmail.com>
References: <4ABE301C.4030108@gmail.com>
	<4ABE4781.6219.5B8E3B@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk> 
	<4ABE4D23.3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f63db7860909261209h52c58d3ds591e39d773d1288e@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/26 Liam Wilson <liamwilson93 at gmail.com>:
> Tony Pursell wrote:
>> On 26 Sep 2009 at 16:15, Liam Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all;
>>> ? ? I've just bought myself a new Kodak ESP 3 all in one printer, and
>>> upon opening the printer configuration Dialogue to see if there are
>>> drivers available for it, I find the 'New' button is grayed out. I then
>>> went to Server -> Connect and selected 'localhost' as my print server.
>>> After frying to connect to it, I get the error
>>>
>>> There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt
>>> failed'.
>>>
>>> What can be done to resolve this error, as I need this printer to work
>>> for my ICT course.
>>>
>>> Many, many thanks;
>>> Liam Wilson
>>>
>>> --
>>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Have a look at
>>
>> http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Kodak-
>> EasyShare_Printer_Dock_Plus_Series_3
>>
>> That is for the EasyShare Printer Dock Plus Series 3. ?Its given an
>> 'mostly works' rating.
>>
>> The information on the EasyShare Printer Dock Series 3 (I.e not 'Plus')
>> is that it does not work ('paperweight rating').
>>
>> Go to
>>
>> http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Kodak
>>
>> to see all Kodak printers.
>>
>> There may be drivers on the Kodak website.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Turns out that I needed to start cups before i could install a printer,
> but it ALSO turns out that there are NO linux drivers for my driver. At
> all, which I'm not at all happy about! :)
>
> Liam Wilson
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>

You could also look for a PPD file (normally included somewhere in the
Windows driver installation archive). This provides CUPS enough
information to get the printer working.


From lucybridges at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 22:18:00 2009
From: lucybridges at gmail.com (Lucy)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:18:00 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>
Message-ID: <a4b4319c0909261418q63bf14f4u5b55bee6cf4ee3ba@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/26 Gordon Allott <gord.allott at canonical.com>:
> Hi,
>
> Sooo its that time of year again when we need to start organising release
> parties and since I am closest to Manchester.. :)
>
> So yeah this thread is a good place for discussion on that, venues? dates? ideas?
>
> Karmic is released on thursday (always a thursday) the 29th october but there's
> nothing that says it has to be held on a thursday.
>
> so yeah, venues, dates and any ideas of things to do there are all welcome.

Yey! I'd not noticed the date being announced otherwise I would have
posted something.

I've put up a poll to decide on the best date. Please vote!
http://doodle.com/4td2szs2zcahkhik

In terms of venue, I think we may have outgrown the BBC ;) I suggest
somewhere like Revolution or the Pitcher & Piano on Deansgate. I'm not
sure what the policy would be on under 18s though, so if anyone has
any better suggestions I'd be glad to hear them.


From dstansby at googlemail.com  Sat Sep 26 22:36:45 2009
From: dstansby at googlemail.com (David Stansby)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:36:45 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <a4b4319c0909261418q63bf14f4u5b55bee6cf4ee3ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>
	<a4b4319c0909261418q63bf14f4u5b55bee6cf4ee3ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3632837146696101796@unknownmsgid>

I don't know where it could be, but maybe something in the afternoon
on saturday or Sunday would be ideal for under 18s I think.

On 26 Sep 2009, at 22:18, Lucy <lucybridges at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/9/26 Gordon Allott <gord.allott at canonical.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sooo its that time of year again when we need to start organising
>> release
>> parties and since I am closest to Manchester.. :)
>>
>> So yeah this thread is a good place for discussion on that, venues?
>> dates? ideas?
>>
>> Karmic is released on thursday (always a thursday) the 29th october
>> but there's
>> nothing that says it has to be held on a thursday.
>>
>> so yeah, venues, dates and any ideas of things to do there are all
>> welcome.
>
> Yey! I'd not noticed the date being announced otherwise I would have
> posted something.
>
> I've put up a poll to decide on the best date. Please vote!
> http://doodle.com/4td2szs2zcahkhik
>
> In terms of venue, I think we may have outgrown the BBC ;) I suggest
> somewhere like Revolution or the Pitcher & Piano on Deansgate. I'm not
> sure what the policy would be on under 18s though, so if anyone has
> any better suggestions I'd be glad to hear them.
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/


From scraliontis at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 22:40:20 2009
From: scraliontis at gmail.com (Philip Taylor)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:40:20 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Banbury - Karmic Koala 9.10 Release Party.
Message-ID: <20090926214019.GA4507@pmt>

Hi

Just an email to remind everyone that there is a Karmic Release Party, planned for banbury, on the evening of the 30th October 2009.

details of venue to be found on the wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseParties).

If people could reply to this, and give me some idea. of how many people from the ubuntu community will attend, i will then have an idea of how many people will attend, 
and what plans to make.

Thank You

PMT


From gbplinux at gmail.com  Sun Sep 27 11:05:00 2009
From: gbplinux at gmail.com (Gordon)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:05:00 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>
Message-ID: <h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>

Gordon Allott wrote:

> 
> Karmic is released on thursday (always a thursday) the 29th october 

Interesting! A week after Windows 7.......the comparison should be great!



From gord.allott at canonical.com  Sun Sep 27 14:46:22 2009
From: gord.allott at canonical.com (Gordon Allott)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:46:22 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>  <h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1254059182.1936.3.camel@simba>

On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 11:05 +0100, Gordon wrote:
> Gordon Allott wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Karmic is released on thursday (always a thursday) the 29th october 
> 
> Interesting! A week after Windows 7.......the comparison should be great!
> 
> 

I think it would also be interesting to compare the karmic release
parties to the windows 7 release parties. i'm sure everyone has seen
this video already, but its well worth crossposting everywhere ;)
http://valleywag.gawker.com/5366070/host-your-own-awful-party-for-windows-7

-- 
Gordon Allott <gord.allott at canonical.com>
Canonical
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From Rik_Boland at Btinternet.com  Mon Sep 28 00:04:48 2009
From: Rik_Boland at Btinternet.com (Rik Boland)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:04:48 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source
Message-ID: <4ABFEF90.1020102@Btinternet.com>

Nokia is releasing a new phone the runs Linux?

What model is it?

Shalom

Rik


From alan at popey.com  Mon Sep 28 00:07:37 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:07:37 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source
In-Reply-To: <4ABFEF90.1020102@Btinternet.com>
References: <4ABFEF90.1020102@Btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909271607h14812c2dm4d6ab3b33048d626@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/28 Rik Boland <Rik_Boland at btinternet.com>:
> Nokia is releasing a new phone the runs Linux?
>

It runs Maemo which is based on Debian Linux as I understand it.

> What model is it?
>

N900.

http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/

Cheers,
Al.


From jon at spriggs.org.uk  Mon Sep 28 00:07:57 2009
From: jon at spriggs.org.uk (Jon Spriggs)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:07:57 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source
In-Reply-To: <4ABFEF90.1020102@Btinternet.com>
References: <4ABFEF90.1020102@Btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <f0ef16460909271607l1a93f6d1g213cd3546e523b7e@mail.gmail.com>

I believe this is the Debian derived, Maemo Based N900 following the
same conventions as the N800 and N700 series Internet Tablets - now
with included GSM chip :)
-- 
Jon "The Nice Guy" Spriggs LPIC-1 Certified



2009/9/28 Rik Boland <Rik_Boland at btinternet.com>:
> Nokia is releasing a new phone the runs Linux?
>
> What model is it?
>
> Shalom
>
> Rik
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>


From dmdrummondx at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 00:10:59 2009
From: dmdrummondx at gmail.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:10:59 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source
In-Reply-To: <4ABFEF90.1020102@Btinternet.com>
References: <4ABFEF90.1020102@Btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <4ABFF103.2060802@gmail.com>

Rik Boland wrote:
> Nokia is releasing a new phone the runs Linux?
>
> What model is it?
>
> Shalom
>
> Rik
>
>   
N900

http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products/all-phones/nokia-n900#/main/landing

Dan


From alanslists at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 07:43:36 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:43:36 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <1254059182.1936.3.camel@simba>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com> <h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1254059182.1936.3.camel@simba>
Message-ID: <h9pluo$6c0$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 27/09/09 14:46, Gordon Allott wrote:
<snip />
> I think it would also be interesting to compare the karmic release
> parties to the windows 7 release parties. i'm sure everyone has seen
> this video already, but its well worth crossposting everywhere ;)
> http://valleywag.gawker.com/5366070/host-your-own-awful-party-for-windows-7

Also, check this review of Windows 7. It certainly doesn't sound too hot 
to me:

http://www.psy-q.ch/blog/articles/2009/09/13/win7-review-from-free-software-activist/

Al



From sean at seanmiller.net  Mon Sep 28 07:56:41 2009
From: sean at seanmiller.net (Sean Miller)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:56:41 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <h9pluo$6c0$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com> <h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1254059182.1936.3.camel@simba> <h9pluo$6c0$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <411df980909272356j18da2aa5o4ea5ccd868b3cf03@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmm.... with all due respect he mentions Linux so much I doubt any
impartial reader will take much notice of his comments.

Bit like asking Ian Paisley to write an objective review of Pope
Benedict's performance so far... it just ain't going to happen...

Sean


From alanslists at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 08:08:26 2009
From: alanslists at gmail.com (Alan Lord (News))
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:08:26 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <411df980909272356j18da2aa5o4ea5ccd868b3cf03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>
	<h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>	<1254059182.1936.3.camel@simba>
	<h9pluo$6c0$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<411df980909272356j18da2aa5o4ea5ccd868b3cf03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <h9pnda$acn$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 28/09/09 07:56, Sean Miller wrote:
> Hmmm.... with all due respect he mentions Linux so much I doubt any
> impartial reader will take much notice of his comments.

He is comparing the two. What's wrong with that? There are clearly some 
problems with Win 7. Unstable updates, iffy text editor...

Also, for most users (as it seems so few bought Vista), Windows 7 has no 
easy upgrade path. If you are currently using XP, you have to format 
your HDD and start again. That really sucks for "normal" users.

Al



From sean at seanmiller.net  Mon Sep 28 08:20:50 2009
From: sean at seanmiller.net (Sean Miller)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:20:50 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <h9pnda$acn$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com> <h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1254059182.1936.3.camel@simba> <h9pluo$6c0$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<411df980909272356j18da2aa5o4ea5ccd868b3cf03@mail.gmail.com>
	<h9pnda$acn$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <411df980909280020v92572f1k3f359709daf50c37@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Alan Lord (News) <alanslists at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 28/09/09 07:56, Sean Miller wrote:
>> Hmmm.... with all due respect he mentions Linux so much I doubt any
>> impartial reader will take much notice of his comments.
>
> He is comparing the two. What's wrong with that? There are clearly some
> problems with Win 7. Unstable updates, iffy text editor...
>
> Also, for most users (as it seems so few bought Vista), Windows 7 has no
> easy upgrade path. If you are currently using XP, you have to format
> your HDD and start again. That really sucks for "normal" users.

I didn't say that his arguments were not valid, simply that the whole
way he writes gives the impression he is "out to get Windows" which
(for me at least, and I am a Ubuntu user remember - so "already
converted") makes the whole piece less persuasive.

I suspect that he has not realised he's done it, but I would like to
read an objective review of Windows 7... the little "bullsh!t filter"
in my brain starts sending out alarm bells only a couple of paragraphs
into that piece... he paints a very different picture of Windows 7
than my experience running it in a VM has given me.   And he keeps
saying "which, of course, is done far better in KDE..." or whatever.

If the article was called "KDE vs. Windows 7, the Verdict" and had a
table with comparisons then it would be rather good...

ie.
Eye Candy - KDE 90%, Windows 7 80%
Security - KDE 90%, Windows 7 40%
Compatibility with iTunes - KDE 25%, Windows 7 90%

etc.

Sean


From ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 08:29:37 2009
From: ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk (mac)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:29:37 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <411df980909272356j18da2aa5o4ea5ccd868b3cf03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>
	<h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>	<1254059182.1936.3.camel@simba>
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Sean Miller wrote:
> Hmmm.... with all due respect he mentions Linux so much I doubt any
> impartial reader will take much notice of his comments.

Given that the author is completely upfront about his allegiances, 
perhaps his frequent references to GNU/Linux are not too unreasonable. 
And he is doing a 'compare and contrast' review with other operating 
systems, so maybe you'd expect him to mention OS X and GNU/Linux a lot.

Of course, few Windows users, will ever read an article like this, so it 
won't influence anybody much - they get their computers from PC World 
with Windows already installed.  And most Windows users don't ever 
install Windows, so many of the author's comments - for example, about 
partitioning, relative ease of installation, and dual booting  - are 
redundant.

But compared with a lot of stuff you read from FOSS zealots, I thought 
this piece was balanced, thoughtful and temperate.

mac




From sean at seanmiller.net  Mon Sep 28 08:50:09 2009
From: sean at seanmiller.net (Sean Miller)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:50:09 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <4AC065E1.3060108@gmx.co.uk>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com> <h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:29 AM, mac <ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk> wrote:

> But compared with a lot of stuff you read from FOSS zealots, I thought
> this piece was balanced, thoughtful and temperate.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

Sean


From alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com  Mon Sep 28 10:18:03 2009
From: alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com (Alan Bell)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:18:03 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <411df980909280020v92572f1k3f359709daf50c37@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>
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well there have been any number of reviews of Linux desktops by
journalists who know about Windows and compare it at every step to
Windows. This just happens to be one coming from the other direction,
which he acknowledges from the start.

I don't think anyone sensible would draw any conclusions from any single
article (on any subject) but this does appear to be a useful
contribution to the mix.

Alan.


Sean Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Alan Lord (News) <alanslists at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On 28/09/09 07:56, Sean Miller wrote:
>>     
>>> Hmmm.... with all due respect he mentions Linux so much I doubt any
>>> impartial reader will take much notice of his comments.
>>>       
>> He is comparing the two. What's wrong with that? There are clearly some
>> problems with Win 7. Unstable updates, iffy text editor...
>>
>> Also, for most users (as it seems so few bought Vista), Windows 7 has no
>> easy upgrade path. If you are currently using XP, you have to format
>> your HDD and start again. That really sucks for "normal" users.
>>     
>
> I didn't say that his arguments were not valid, simply that the whole
> way he writes gives the impression he is "out to get Windows" which
> (for me at least, and I am a Ubuntu user remember - so "already
> converted") makes the whole piece less persuasive.
>
> I suspect that he has not realised he's done it, but I would like to
> read an objective review of Windows 7... the little "bullsh!t filter"
> in my brain starts sending out alarm bells only a couple of paragraphs
> into that piece... he paints a very different picture of Windows 7
> than my experience running it in a VM has given me.   And he keeps
> saying "which, of course, is done far better in KDE..." or whatever.
>
> If the article was called "KDE vs. Windows 7, the Verdict" and had a
> table with comparisons then it would be rather good...
>
> ie.
> Eye Candy - KDE 90%, Windows 7 80%
> Security - KDE 90%, Windows 7 40%
> Compatibility with iTunes - KDE 25%, Windows 7 90%
>
> etc.
>
> Sean
>
>   



From ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk  Mon Sep 28 16:27:19 2009
From: ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk (mac)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:27:19 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <4AC07F4B.2080805@theopenlearningcentre.com>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>	<h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>	<1254059182.1936.3.camel@simba>	<h9pluo$6c0$1@ger.gmane.org>	<411df980909272356j18da2aa5o4ea5ccd868b3cf03@mail.gmail.com>	<h9pnda$acn$1@ger.gmane.org>	<411df980909280020v92572f1k3f359709daf50c37@mail.gmail.com>
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Alan Bell wrote:
> I don't think anyone sensible would draw any conclusions from any single
> article (on any subject) but this does appear to be a useful
> contribution to the mix.


Just wondered if anyone had come across this piece in the Guardian from 
a Windows devotee.  (The author's description of the Win7 Launch Party 
video is priceless.)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows

(There is a veiled reference to FOSS in the text, which justifies 
posting here!)

mac



From adams.ken.j at googlemail.com  Mon Sep 28 20:53:45 2009
From: adams.ken.j at googlemail.com (Ken Adams)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:53:45 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Auto NFS mounting
Message-ID: <1254167625.6331.12.camel@ken-laptop>

Hi People

Right, to start I will explain what I have on my lan...

Server - 3 nfs exports setup to share over the home network.
Laptop - I use this to do all my work
Wireless Access - Used to connect my laptop to the lan and internet when
I am at home.

If I only used my laptop at home, I could add the nfs shares to
my /etc/fstab file to automatically mount the shares on boot. As I use
the laptop away from home, this would understandably cause problems.

I have set NM to manually set the IP number when it connects via my home
access point.

Is there a way I can run a script whenever my laptop connects to the
home AP. In this script I could then mount the nfs shares.

Rgds Ken



From selinium at googlemail.com  Mon Sep 28 21:59:10 2009
From: selinium at googlemail.com (James Thomas)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:59:10 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W46821F9D82AF4FAB7796C0FBD60@phx.gbl>
References: <2dfb08a10909280828t349f7925w93201bc8015b84a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL109-W46821F9D82AF4FAB7796C0FBD60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2dfb08a10909281359l5db78d93u9b377ed87d671515@mail.gmail.com>

Cheers Leroy,

Waiting on others responses. If there are no other takers for the Sunday I
will just do the Saturday and attend another myself.

:)

So come on all you others! Let me know!!!!

:)

2009/9/28 leroy whyte <cumminsl10290 at hotmail.com>

>  Hi James, i would like to attend for both days, as well as possibly 1
> other for at least one day.
> Thanks in advance.
> Leroy.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:28:57 +0100
> From: selinium at googlemail.com
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London
>
>
> Hi there everyone,
>
> I need to get an idea of numbers and on what day they might attend the
> London Jam at Finsbury circus.
> Also, it would be great to know if there are any people willing to lead any
> session?
>
> Please get back to me anyone who is interested in attending.
>
> Cheers
>
> JT
>
> #ubuntu-uk  selinuxium
>
> ------------------------------
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>
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From neuro at well.com  Tue Sep 29 06:16:50 2009
From: neuro at well.com (William Anderson)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:16:50 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Auto NFS mounting
In-Reply-To: <1254167625.6331.12.camel@ken-laptop>
References: <1254167625.6331.12.camel@ken-laptop>
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Ken Adams wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> Is there a way I can run a script whenever my laptop connects to the
> home AP. In this script I could then mount the nfs shares.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=autofs

-n


From philip at stuphi.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 07:13:45 2009
From: philip at stuphi.co.uk (Philip Stubbs)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:13:45 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
In-Reply-To: <4AC0D5D7.5010500@gmx.co.uk>
References: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com> <h9ndcb$ua9$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1254059182.1936.3.camel@simba> <h9pluo$6c0$1@ger.gmane.org>
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2009/9/28 mac <ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk>:
> Alan Bell wrote:
>> I don't think anyone sensible would draw any conclusions from any single
>> article (on any subject) but this does appear to be a useful
>> contribution to the mix.
>
>
> Just wondered if anyone had come across this piece in the Guardian from
> a Windows devotee. ?(The author's description of the Win7 Launch Party
> video is priceless.)
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows

Shitasmic. That should be in the dictionary.

-- 
Philip Stubbs


From kirrus at kirrus.co.uk  Tue Sep 29 09:36:51 2009
From: kirrus at kirrus.co.uk (Johnathon Tinsley)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:36:51 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London
In-Reply-To: <2dfb08a10909281359l5db78d93u9b377ed87d671515@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2dfb08a10909280828t349f7925w93201bc8015b84a2@mail.gmail.com>	<COL109-W46821F9D82AF4FAB7796C0FBD60@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <4AC1C723.8070507@kirrus.co.uk>

James Thomas wrote:
> Cheers Leroy,
> 
> Waiting on others responses. If there are no other takers for the Sunday
> I will just do the Saturday and attend another myself.
> 
> :)


o/

 I'll do both Saturday and Sunday, if there are enough people to make it
worth doing on Sunday ;)


From alan at popey.com  Tue Sep 29 10:31:33 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:31:33 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London
In-Reply-To: <2dfb08a10909281359l5db78d93u9b377ed87d671515@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2dfb08a10909280828t349f7925w93201bc8015b84a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL109-W46821F9D82AF4FAB7796C0FBD60@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <eba6d2300909290231n3422bf91r2338eb4bc93755@mail.gmail.com>

Hi James,

2009/9/28 James Thomas <selinium at googlemail.com>:
> Waiting on others responses. If there are no other takers for the Sunday I
> will just do the Saturday and attend another myself.
>

I'd recommend you promote this via other means than just the -uk list.
Here's some ideas, to help you gather more potential
visitors/participants (and this goes for anyone running a Jam.

* Contact your local LUG (in this case GLLUG) and post a message there.
* Blog about it
* Use social media tools such as facebook, identi.ca and twitter to promote it.

I'd recommend crafting a mail which details exactly when and where the
event is and how to get to it. Also detail what kinds of things will
be done. I appreciate much of this is on the wiki (so a swift
copy/paste can help there), but some communities will ignore a mail
that just says "Come to my event, click link for more info", they like
to see detail in the mail.

Hope that helps.
Al.


From chris at resonancefm.com  Tue Sep 29 16:54:37 2009
From: chris at resonancefm.com (Chris Weaver)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:54:37 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Disk Full (or nearly full) alert
Message-ID: <6908d1ff0909290854i135d308fm4c948a7086c7e02d@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

Does anyone have a system or app in place where they get the Windows style
"disk is nearly full" alerts? I realise it's an old bug/idea
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17590/ but there doesn't (to my limited
knowledge) seem to be a viable solution.

It easy enough to manually check the disks with du but we have many here at
the studio.

Incidentally, a quick Google search threw up a script tutorial
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mac-osx-unix-get-an-alert-when-my-disk-is-full/

- Chris


-- 
Chris Weaver
Production Manager
Resonance104.4FM
resonancefm.com
+44 (0)207 407 1210
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From alan at popey.com  Tue Sep 29 16:59:56 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:59:56 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Disk Full (or nearly full) alert
In-Reply-To: <6908d1ff0909290854i135d308fm4c948a7086c7e02d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6908d1ff0909290854i135d308fm4c948a7086c7e02d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909290859s4e844f31xaf0249ece1d8d712@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/29 Chris Weaver <chris at resonancefm.com>:
> Does anyone have a system or app in place where they get the Windows style
> "disk is nearly full" alerts? I realise it's an old bug/idea
> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17590/ but there doesn't (to my limited
> knowledge) seem to be a viable solution.
>

The latest version of Ubuntu (9.10) which is in development and due
out at the end of next month already has this. I have had popup alerts
to tell me that my built in and usb disks/sticks are getting full.
Quite handy :)

One revealed a bug in the printing system which causes many GB of logs
to be written to /var/log. So very useful.

> It easy enough to manually check the disks with du but we have many here at
> the studio.
>

Another option for remote monitoring is something like gkrellm. I used
to use this although many now prefer tools like conky. With gkrellm
you run gkrellmd on each machine you want to monitor and gkrellm (gui
app) on the central machine. It can connect to the remote machines and
alert you of all kinds of things - disk space included.

Cheers,
Al.


From liamwilson93 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 20:22:23 2009
From: liamwilson93 at gmail.com (Liam Wilson)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:22:23 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Cups Error 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'
In-Reply-To: <f63db7860909261209h52c58d3ds591e39d773d1288e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ABE301C.4030108@gmail.com>	<4ABE4781.6219.5B8E3B@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>
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Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> 2009/9/26 Liam Wilson <liamwilson93 at gmail.com>:
>   
>> Tony Pursell wrote:
>>     
>>> On 26 Sep 2009 at 16:15, Liam Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hey all;
>>>>     I've just bought myself a new Kodak ESP 3 all in one printer, and
>>>> upon opening the printer configuration Dialogue to see if there are
>>>> drivers available for it, I find the 'New' button is grayed out. I then
>>>> went to Server -> Connect and selected 'localhost' as my print server.
>>>> After frying to connect to it, I get the error
>>>>
>>>> There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt
>>>> failed'.
>>>>
>>>> What can be done to resolve this error, as I need this printer to work
>>>> for my ICT course.
>>>>
>>>> Many, many thanks;
>>>> Liam Wilson
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Have a look at
>>>
>>> http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Kodak-
>>> EasyShare_Printer_Dock_Plus_Series_3
>>>
>>> That is for the EasyShare Printer Dock Plus Series 3.  Its given an
>>> 'mostly works' rating.
>>>
>>> The information on the EasyShare Printer Dock Series 3 (I.e not 'Plus')
>>> is that it does not work ('paperweight rating').
>>>
>>> Go to
>>>
>>> http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Kodak
>>>
>>> to see all Kodak printers.
>>>
>>> There may be drivers on the Kodak website.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Turns out that I needed to start cups before i could install a printer,
>> but it ALSO turns out that there are NO linux drivers for my driver. At
>> all, which I'm not at all happy about! :)
>>
>> Liam Wilson
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>
>>     
>
> You could also look for a PPD file (normally included somewhere in the
> Windows driver installation archive). This provides CUPS enough
> information to get the printer working.
>
>   
Cheers for the Idea, but Unfortunately, I couldn't seem to find a PPD 
file that worked with my Printer, so it looks like I'm going back to my 
old one!

Cheers for the help anyway guys :)

A strongly-worded letter shall be sent to Kodak right away!

Liam
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From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 10:09:12 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:09:12 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
Message-ID: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>

Hi folks,

I'm running Karmic on my notebook and this morning it had a whole load 
of packages (about 600MB worth) to upgrade.  After upgrading I noticed 
that it has the new flashy Splash screen which although not as seemless 
as what I've seen, it looks nice.  I also noticed that the theme has 
changed (for the better I'd say).

I just wondered if this upgrade is the Beta version of Karmic which is 
due any time now?

Rob



From tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk  Wed Sep 30 10:14:19 2009
From: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk (Tony Arnold)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:14:19 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AC3216B.3010609@manchester.ac.uk>

Rob,

Rob Beard wrote:

> I'm running Karmic on my notebook and this morning it had a whole load 
> of packages (about 600MB worth) to upgrade.  After upgrading I noticed 
> that it has the new flashy Splash screen which although not as seemless 
> as what I've seen, it looks nice.  I also noticed that the theme has 
> changed (for the better I'd say).
> 
> I just wondered if this upgrade is the Beta version of Karmic which is 
> due any time now?

A beta CD is due to be released tomorrow[1], so I guess all the updates
today would bring you roughly in line with that.

I like the new theme too. Last I saw, the GDM theme was still a bit
unpolished, IMHO. Maybe today's updates have fixed that.

Regards,
Tony.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
-- 
Tony Arnold,                        Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093
Head of IT Security,                Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004
University of Manchester,           Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039
Manchester M13 9PL.                 Email: tony.arnold at manchester.ac.uk


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 10:20:16 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:20:16 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <4AC3216B.3010609@manchester.ac.uk>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>
	<4AC3216B.3010609@manchester.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <4AC322D0.9080801@esdelle.co.uk>

Tony Arnold wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Rob Beard wrote:
>
>   
>> I'm running Karmic on my notebook and this morning it had a whole load 
>> of packages (about 600MB worth) to upgrade.  After upgrading I noticed 
>> that it has the new flashy Splash screen which although not as seemless 
>> as what I've seen, it looks nice.  I also noticed that the theme has 
>> changed (for the better I'd say).
>>
>> I just wondered if this upgrade is the Beta version of Karmic which is 
>> due any time now?
>>     
>
> A beta CD is due to be released tomorrow[1], so I guess all the updates
> today would bring you roughly in line with that.
>
> I like the new theme too. Last I saw, the GDM theme was still a bit
> unpolished, IMHO. Maybe today's updates have fixed that.
>
> Regards,
> Tony.
>
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
>   
I see, not long then until the full release.  It's certainly looking 
good if still a little bit slow.  I think I'll probably backup 
everything and do a fresh install when the final version is released and 
get rid of Vista at last (I've not used it in months and it's eating up 
60GB or so on my hard drive).

I do like the new Ubuntu Software Center too, I know a few people who 
that will appeal to.

Rob




From jamie at linuxuk.org  Wed Sep 30 10:22:50 2009
From: jamie at linuxuk.org (Jamie Bennett)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:22:50 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>
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On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 10:09 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:
> I just wondered if this upgrade is the Beta version of Karmic which is 
> due any time now?

Beta hasn't been released yet, that's not to say that what you have
isn't the final beta, just that it may change by tomorrow ;)

> Rob

Regards,
Jamie.
--
http://www.linuxuk.org
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From sean at seanmiller.net  Wed Sep 30 10:40:30 2009
From: sean at seanmiller.net (Sean Miller)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:40:30 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <1254302570.2697.86.camel@kbop>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk> <1254302570.2697.86.camel@kbop>
Message-ID: <411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe it's time to upgrade my Ubuntu to Karmic... hmmm....

Any wireless issues I should know about?

Sean

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jamie Bennett <jamie at linuxuk.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 10:09 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:
>> I just wondered if this upgrade is the Beta version of Karmic which is
>> due any time now?
>
> Beta hasn't been released yet, that's not to say that what you have
> isn't the final beta, just that it may change by tomorrow ;)
>
>> Rob
>
> Regards,
> Jamie.
> --
> http://www.linuxuk.org
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>
>


From selinium at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 30 10:49:05 2009
From: selinium at googlemail.com (James Thomas)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:49:05 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London
Message-ID: <2dfb08a10909300249i1e090575o6e53650e0189f686@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Unfortunately, when the City of London fired up the central heating for the
first time this year, a fault was found.
They have scheduled the works for this weekend.

This basically puts the venue off limits.

Apologies to all those who wished to attend.

Could you please let anyone know was wishing to attend that the venue is now
closed.

Sorry guys and gals,

James Thomas
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From kirrus at kirrus.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 10:49:13 2009
From: kirrus at kirrus.co.uk (Johnathon Tinsley)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:49:13 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk> <1254302570.2697.86.camel@kbop>
	<411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC32999.2050702@kirrus.co.uk>

Hi Sean,

Sean Miller wrote:
> Maybe it's time to upgrade my Ubuntu to Karmic... hmmm....
> 
> Any wireless issues I should know about?
> 

I've not seen any, but the rule is, do not use development releases on
production systems, 'cos they break stuff. (He says, working on his
computer which is running Karmic. It broke, perfect time to reinstall it
with karmic ;) )

I've not noticed anything serious going wrong. Few bugs with my
dual-screening graphics, but apart from that it seems pretty solid.
Still, the old 'not for production use' label still applies, so you
can't complain if they break something..

Best regards,

Johnathon

> Sean
> 
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jamie Bennett <jamie at linuxuk.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 10:09 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:
>>> I just wondered if this upgrade is the Beta version of Karmic which is
>>> due any time now?
>> Beta hasn't been released yet, that's not to say that what you have
>> isn't the final beta, just that it may change by tomorrow ;)
>>
>>> Rob
>> Regards,
>> Jamie.
>> --
>> http://www.linuxuk.org
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>
>>
> 



From djones.dancol at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 30 10:51:12 2009
From: djones.dancol at googlemail.com (David Jones)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:51:12 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk> <1254302570.2697.86.camel@kbop>
	<411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>
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Sean Miller wrote:
> Maybe it's time to upgrade my Ubuntu to Karmic... hmmm....
> 
> Any wireless issues I should know about?
> 
> Sean

I'd suggest downloading the livecd and testing with that before 
installing, it should throw up any problems before you install.

Dave


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 10:51:25 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:51:25 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk> <1254302570.2697.86.camel@kbop>
	<411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>
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Sean Miller wrote:
> Maybe it's time to upgrade my Ubuntu to Karmic... hmmm....
>
> Any wireless issues I should know about?
>
> Sean
>   
Well the wireless on my notebook (Intel wireless) works okay and my 
Huawei modem (Vodafone Mobile Connect) is now detected okay since the 
upgrade this morning (didn't work after upgrading to Karmic Alpha 
something) although I don't have any reception so I can't test it.

Rob



From linux at soslug.org  Wed Sep 30 11:06:21 2009
From: linux at soslug.org (linux)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:06:21 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London
In-Reply-To: <2dfb08a10909300249i1e090575o6e53650e0189f686@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2dfb08a10909300249i1e090575o6e53650e0189f686@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC32D9D.5090002@soslug.org>

Ouch sorry to hear that James I have a smaller issue with EDF energy who 
wish to disconnect our mains supply for 4 hours on sunday but I think I 
have organised a generator to cover at my expense. You would be most 
welcome to attend the Southend venue and if you want a corner to 
yourselves thats cool plenty of room available.

Derek Shaw (SoSLUG)

James Thomas wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Unfortunately, when the City of London fired up the central heating for the
> first time this year, a fault was found.
> They have scheduled the works for this weekend.
> 
> This basically puts the venue off limits.
> 
> Apologies to all those who wished to attend.
> 
> Could you please let anyone know was wishing to attend that the venue is now
> closed.
> 
> Sorry guys and gals,
> 
> James Thomas
> 
> 



From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 11:09:06 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:09:06 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <4AC32999.2050702@kirrus.co.uk>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>
	<1254302570.2697.86.camel@kbop>	<411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC32999.2050702@kirrus.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AC32E42.7000107@esdelle.co.uk>

Johnathon Tinsley wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> Sean Miller wrote:
>   
>> Maybe it's time to upgrade my Ubuntu to Karmic... hmmm....
>>
>> Any wireless issues I should know about?
>>
>>     
>
> I've not seen any, but the rule is, do not use development releases on
> production systems, 'cos they break stuff. (He says, working on his
> computer which is running Karmic. It broke, perfect time to reinstall it
> with karmic ;) )
>
> I've not noticed anything serious going wrong. Few bugs with my
> dual-screening graphics, but apart from that it seems pretty solid.
> Still, the old 'not for production use' label still applies, so you
> can't complain if they break something..
>
> Best regards,
>
> Johnathon
>   
I have found a couple of stability issues but to be honest I was 
expecting that.  Certainly not bad problems anyway.  I'm undecided 
though about what to do about a couple of upcoming Ubuntu installs.  I'm 
not sure if I should stick with 9.04 and then upgrade them to 9.10 when 
it's released or hang fire until the final release of 9.10 is released 
(one install is for my dad so he can try Ubuntu, and the other is for a 
charity who are in need of the PC as soon as possible).

Rob



From bagnaj97 at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 30 11:52:19 2009
From: bagnaj97 at googlemail.com (Adam Bagnall)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:52:19 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] OT/SPAM - Linux Sysadmin Wanted
In-Reply-To: <4AC32D9D.5090002@soslug.org>
References: <2dfb08a10909300249i1e090575o6e53650e0189f686@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC32D9D.5090002@soslug.org>
Message-ID: <4AC33863.9070105@googlemail.com>

Hi all,
    I've recently decided to move out of London and as such I'm leaving 
my job. That means they're looking for a replacement Linux sysadmin. The 
company is beam.tv and I've copy/pasted the job ad below. If you want 
more information or wish to apply please contact either myself or 
tony at beam.tv

Sorry for spamming the mailing list but I figured it's sort of relevant 
as it's a linux job.

Regards,
    Adam.



Beam is looking for a  Systems Administrator to join their busy 
Development team.
 
Beam is a global TV delivery and digital asset management company 
distributing TV commercials to broadcasters in more than 60 countries.
 
As Systems Administrator reporting to the Head of Development, you will 
provide support for the development team via everyday Linux systems 
administration as well as implementing systems projects.
 
You will be responsible for carrying out preventative maintenance on 
BEAM infrastructure and servers, status monitoring, performance 
optimisation, managing upgrades, backups, patches and code releases. In 
addition you will look after first line PC technical support.
 
The successful candidate must have experience of working with the 
following systems: Linux (Redhat preferred), Apache/php configuration, 
virtualisation and NAS/SAN technologies along with experience of 
liaising with 3^rd party suppliers.
It would be beneficial to have experience of Oracle databases, Nagios, 
LDAP, subversion + trac/support management systems and Linux routing and 
IPtables.
 
If you are interested in this position or know someone who is, please 
send your CV and cover letter by Friday 9^th October 2009.


From alan at popey.com  Wed Sep 30 12:09:14 2009
From: alan at popey.com (Alan Pope)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:09:14 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] OT/SPAM - Linux Sysadmin Wanted
In-Reply-To: <4AC33863.9070105@googlemail.com>
References: <2dfb08a10909300249i1e090575o6e53650e0189f686@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC32D9D.5090002@soslug.org> <4AC33863.9070105@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <eba6d2300909300409m15fcb344vf58f7250a888e9fe@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/30 Adam Bagnall <bagnaj97 at googlemail.com>:
> Sorry for spamming the mailing list but I figured it's sort of relevant
> as it's a linux job.
>

There's a UK linux jobs mailing list..  :)

https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs

Cheers,
Al.


From bagnaj97 at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 30 12:23:29 2009
From: bagnaj97 at googlemail.com (Adam Bagnall)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:23:29 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] OT/SPAM - Linux Sysadmin Wanted
In-Reply-To: <eba6d2300909300409m15fcb344vf58f7250a888e9fe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2dfb08a10909300249i1e090575o6e53650e0189f686@mail.gmail.com>	<4AC32D9D.5090002@soslug.org>
	<4AC33863.9070105@googlemail.com>
	<eba6d2300909300409m15fcb344vf58f7250a888e9fe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC33FB1.4000802@googlemail.com>

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/9/30 Adam Bagnall <bagnaj97 at googlemail.com>:
>   
>> Sorry for spamming the mailing list but I figured it's sort of relevant
>> as it's a linux job.
>>
>>     
>
> There's a UK linux jobs mailing list..  :)
>
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>   

I wasn't aware of that, I'm sure that'll be handy for me in future too :)


From ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 14:02:52 2009
From: ammonius.grammaticus at gmx.co.uk (mac)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:02:52 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <4AC32E42.7000107@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>	<1254302570.2697.86.camel@kbop>	<411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>	<4AC32999.2050702@kirrus.co.uk>
	<4AC32E42.7000107@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AC356FC.1000909@gmx.co.uk>

Rob Beard wrote:
> ...I'm undecided though about what to do about a couple of upcoming
> Ubuntu installs.  I'm not sure if I should stick with 9.04 and then
> upgrade them to 9.10 when it's released or hang fire until the final
> release of 9.10 is released (one install is for my dad so he can try
> Ubuntu, and the other is for a charity who are in need of the PC as
> soon as possible).


I'd be inclined to make sure that both these uses have a really good 
experience, so install something that is stable and works with their 
hardware.  (I'd even be inclined to go for 8.04 LTS for this sort of 
user, if their hardware is OK with that.)

But that's just my twopen'orth.

mac




From davisjo at wanadoo.fr  Wed Sep 30 18:17:26 2009
From: davisjo at wanadoo.fr (John Davis)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:17:26 +0200
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ide to sata
Message-ID: <2856FB30C0AD4155BA8804E3774AE456@nomeb85c523610>

This is not a linux question as such but I know someone will know the answer!

My computers hard drive is full. I have finally persuaded the Missus to have a go at Ubuntu. I would like to buy a 500 gig SATA hard drive Partition it half for Wind**s and Ubuntu as the main.

I know I have to get an IDE to SATA adapter. My question is; does my 2 dvd drives need to be connected to this adapter or do they connect to the motherboard as normal ? Can I also use one SATA hard drive with adapter and a normal IDE hard drive connected to the mother board ? In order to empty the hard drive already fitted by dragging and dropping?

The pc is 6 years old and a Hewlett Packard.
Any tips welcome

John
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From matt at mattjones.me.uk  Wed Sep 30 18:26:41 2009
From: matt at mattjones.me.uk (Matt Jones)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:26:41 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ide to sata
In-Reply-To: <2856FB30C0AD4155BA8804E3774AE456@nomeb85c523610>
References: <2856FB30C0AD4155BA8804E3774AE456@nomeb85c523610>
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:17 PM, John Davis <davisjo at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> This is not a linux question as such but I know someone will know the
> answer!
>
> My computers hard drive is full. I have?finally persuaded the Missus to have
> a go at Ubuntu. I would like to buy a 500 gig SATA hard drive Partition it
> half for Wind**s and Ubuntu as the main.
>
> I know I have to get an IDE to SATA adapter. My question is; does my 2 dvd
> drives need to be connected to this adapter or do they?connect to the
> motherboard as normal ??Can I also use one SATA hard drive with adapter and
> a normal IDE?hard drive?connected to the mother board ? In order to empty
> the hard drive already fitted by dragging and dropping?
>
> The pc is 6 years old and a Hewlett Packard.
> Any tips welcome
>
> John
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>
>

You will need a PCI SATA card, they are <?10 on ebay and generally
have 2 SATA ports on the cheaper ones. I have one with a VIA chipset
and it works fine with all flavours of linux I have tried with it.
Leave the other drives as they are, put the SATA PCI card in and
connect the drive data cable to it.  You will probably need an adaptor
cable for the drive power as the newer SATA drives don't use a molex
connector but a slimmer edge connector. The adaptor should only be a
couple of quid.


From rob at esdelle.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 19:18:56 2009
From: rob at esdelle.co.uk (Rob Beard)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:18:56 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ide to sata
In-Reply-To: <dcdb46380909301026w64edd033nace33db9be52e5ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2856FB30C0AD4155BA8804E3774AE456@nomeb85c523610>
	<dcdb46380909301026w64edd033nace33db9be52e5ab@mail.gmail.com>
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Matt Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:17 PM, John Davis <davisjo at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>   
>> This is not a linux question as such but I know someone will know the
>> answer!
>>
>> My computers hard drive is full. I have finally persuaded the Missus to have
>> a go at Ubuntu. I would like to buy a 500 gig SATA hard drive Partition it
>> half for Wind**s and Ubuntu as the main.
>>
>> I know I have to get an IDE to SATA adapter. My question is; does my 2 dvd
>> drives need to be connected to this adapter or do they connect to the
>> motherboard as normal ? Can I also use one SATA hard drive with adapter and
>> a normal IDE hard drive connected to the mother board ? In order to empty
>> the hard drive already fitted by dragging and dropping?
>>
>> The pc is 6 years old and a Hewlett Packard.
>> Any tips welcome
>>
>> John
>> --
>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>
>>
>>     
>
> You will need a PCI SATA card, they are <?10 on ebay and generally
> have 2 SATA ports on the cheaper ones. I have one with a VIA chipset
> and it works fine with all flavours of linux I have tried with it.
> Leave the other drives as they are, put the SATA PCI card in and
> connect the drive data cable to it.  You will probably need an adaptor
> cable for the drive power as the newer SATA drives don't use a molex
> connector but a slimmer edge connector. The adaptor should only be a
> couple of quid.
>   
I'd second this.  Although I believe it is possible to get IDE to SATA 
adaptors (to convert the IDE on the motherboard to SATA), I gather they 
only work for one drive per IDE connector on the board, so I'd agree and 
say getting a PCI SATA card would be your best bet.  That way you can 
leave all your IDE drives connected as they are.

Rob



From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 30 19:43:58 2009
From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:43:58 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ide to sata
In-Reply-To: <4AC3A110.4080600@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <2856FB30C0AD4155BA8804E3774AE456@nomeb85c523610>
	<dcdb46380909301026w64edd033nace33db9be52e5ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC3A110.4080600@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <op.u022biuk3z9ow3@wharfe>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:18:56 +0100, Rob Beard <rob at esdelle.co.uk> wrote:

> Matt Jones wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:17 PM, John Davis <davisjo at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> This is not a linux question as such but I know someone will know the
>>> answer!
>>>
>>> My computers hard drive is full. I have finally persuaded the Missus  
>>> to have
>>> a go at Ubuntu. I would like to buy a 500 gig SATA hard drive  
>>> Partition it
>>> half for Wind**s and Ubuntu as the main.
>>>
>>> I know I have to get an IDE to SATA adapter. My question is; does my 2  
>>> dvd
>>> drives need to be connected to this adapter or do they connect to the
>>> motherboard as normal ? Can I also use one SATA hard drive with  
>>> adapter and
>>> a normal IDE hard drive connected to the mother board ? In order to  
>>> empty
>>> the hard drive already fitted by dragging and dropping?
>>>
>>> The pc is 6 years old and a Hewlett Packard.
>>> Any tips welcome
>>>
>>> John
>>> --
>>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You will need a PCI SATA card, they are <?10 on ebay and generally
>> have 2 SATA ports on the cheaper ones. I have one with a VIA chipset
>> and it works fine with all flavours of linux I have tried with it.
>> Leave the other drives as they are, put the SATA PCI card in and
>> connect the drive data cable to it.  You will probably need an adaptor
>> cable for the drive power as the newer SATA drives don't use a molex
>> connector but a slimmer edge connector. The adaptor should only be a
>> couple of quid.
>>
> I'd second this.  Although I believe it is possible to get IDE to SATA
> adaptors (to convert the IDE on the motherboard to SATA), I gather they
> only work for one drive per IDE connector on the board, so I'd agree and
> say getting a PCI SATA card would be your best bet.  That way you can
> leave all your IDE drives connected as they are.
>
All the IDE/SATA converters I've seen only allow one drive per cable.   
Besides the PCI SATA controller boards are cheaper.
The one thing that confused me when I installed one is that the PCI card's  
drives become SDA and SDB and the Mobo's drives follow from there.  So a  
bit of twiddling with FSTAB is required on existing installation.


-- 
Steve


From jrh at joshh.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 19:53:14 2009
From: jrh at joshh.co.uk (Josh Holland)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:53:14 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ide to sata
In-Reply-To: <op.u022biuk3z9ow3@wharfe>
References: <2856FB30C0AD4155BA8804E3774AE456@nomeb85c523610>
	<dcdb46380909301026w64edd033nace33db9be52e5ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC3A110.4080600@esdelle.co.uk> <op.u022biuk3z9ow3@wharfe>
Message-ID: <20090930185313.GB5436@joshh.co.uk>

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 07:43:58PM +0100, Steve wrote:
> The one thing that confused me when I installed one is that the PCI card's  
> drives become SDA and SDB and the Mobo's drives follow from there.  So a  
> bit of twiddling with FSTAB is required on existing installation.

Isn't this what UUIDs in /etc/fstab are for?

-- 
Josh Holland <jrh at joshh.co.uk> (key F6067C12)
http://joshh.co.uk dutchie on irc.freenode.net
http://twitter.com/jshholland
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From dmdrummondx at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 20:55:44 2009
From: dmdrummondx at gmail.com (Daniel Drummond)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:55:44 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ide to sata
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Josh Holland wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 07:43:58PM +0100, Steve wrote:
>   
>> The one thing that confused me when I installed one is that the PCI card's  
>> drives become SDA and SDB and the Mobo's drives follow from there.  So a  
>> bit of twiddling with FSTAB is required on existing installation.
>>     
>
> Isn't this what UUIDs in /etc/fstab are for?
>
>   
Some people don't use UUIDs.  I removed them from my /etc/fstab, and 
stopped them being generated in the boot sequence.  Shaved a few seconds 
off my boot time, as some of the processes were waiting on them being 
available.

Dan


From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 30 21:34:48 2009
From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:34:48 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ide to sata
In-Reply-To: <20090930185313.GB5436@joshh.co.uk>
References: <2856FB30C0AD4155BA8804E3774AE456@nomeb85c523610>
	<dcdb46380909301026w64edd033nace33db9be52e5ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC3A110.4080600@esdelle.co.uk> <op.u022biuk3z9ow3@wharfe>
	<20090930185313.GB5436@joshh.co.uk>
Message-ID: <op.u027gaez3z9ow3@wharfe>

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:53:14 +0100, Josh Holland <jrh at joshh.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 07:43:58PM +0100, Steve wrote:
>> The one thing that confused me when I installed one is that the PCI  
>> card's
>> drives become SDA and SDB and the Mobo's drives follow from there.  So a
>> bit of twiddling with FSTAB is required on existing installation.
>
> Isn't this what UUIDs in /etc/fstab are for?
>
Probably

The two PCi/SATA cards I've installed on existing installations were pre  
UUID and the other two were on clean installs, so I've not had chance to  
see this in action.

-- 
Steve


From zleap at zleap.net  Wed Sep 30 22:39:02 2009
From: zleap at zleap.net (Paul Sutton)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:39:02 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <4AC356FC.1000909@gmx.co.uk>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>	<1254302570.2697.86.camel@kbop>	<411df980909300240p1b5de152p593cf04ce908e6af@mail.gmail.com>	<4AC32999.2050702@kirrus.co.uk>	<4AC32E42.7000107@esdelle.co.uk>
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mac wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
>> ...I'm undecided though about what to do about a couple of upcoming
>> Ubuntu installs.  I'm not sure if I should stick with 9.04 and then
>> upgrade them to 9.10 when it's released or hang fire until the final
>> release of 9.10 is released (one install is for my dad so he can try
>> Ubuntu, and the other is for a charity who are in need of the PC as
>> soon as possible).
> 
> 
> I'd be inclined to make sure that both these uses have a really good 
> experience, so install something that is stable and works with their 
> hardware.  (I'd even be inclined to go for 8.04 LTS for this sort of 
> user, if their hardware is OK with that.)
> 
> But that's just my twopen'orth.
> 
> mac
> 
> 
> 
I would agree,  if you install an LTS release at least there is more
chance of you getting help should something go wrong at some point.

I have however found 8.10 pretty reliable its been installed since Xmas
2008,

I want to try jaunty and karmic but can't afford to upgrade my hardware
to a new video card

Paul

- --
Paul Sutton
www.zleap.net

Ubuntu 9.10 out 29th October 2009 - www.ubuntu.com
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From ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk  Wed Sep 30 23:18:41 2009
From: ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk (Tony Pursell)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:18:41 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic upgrade this morning
In-Reply-To: <4AC32E42.7000107@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4AC32038.6040404@esdelle.co.uk>, <4AC32999.2050702@kirrus.co.uk>,
	<4AC32E42.7000107@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4AC3E751.520.147CBF4@ajp.princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk>

On 30 Sep 2009 at 11:09, Rob Beard wrote:
> 
> Johnathon Tinsley wrote:
> > Hi Sean,
> >
> > Sean Miller wrote:
> >   
> >> Maybe it's time to upgrade my Ubuntu to Karmic... hmmm....
> >>
> >> Any wireless issues I should know about?
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > I've not seen any, but the rule is, do not use development releases on
> > production systems, 'cos they break stuff. (He says, working on his
> > computer which is running Karmic. It broke, perfect time to reinstall it
> > with karmic ;) )
> >
> > I've not noticed anything serious going wrong. Few bugs with my
> > dual-screening graphics, but apart from that it seems pretty solid.
> > Still, the old 'not for production use' label still applies, so you
> > can't complain if they break something..
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Johnathon
> >   
> I have found a couple of stability issues but to be honest I was 
> expecting that.  Certainly not bad problems anyway.  I'm undecided 
> though about what to do about a couple of upcoming Ubuntu installs.  I'm 
> not sure if I should stick with 9.04 and then upgrade them to 9.10 when 
> it's released or hang fire until the final release of 9.10 is released 
> (one install is for my dad so he can try Ubuntu, and the other is for a 
> charity who are in need of the PC as soon as possible).
> 
> Rob
> 
My experience with Karmic after the massive update was pretty dire.  I 
have it in Virtual Box. Fresh install of Karmic 6 was OK, but after the 
update (during which some package failed to download) and restart, 
the restart failed until fsck was run.  The problem being something like 
I have seen reported with something future dated.  After that if boots 
and runs OK but always fails to shut down - having captured the 
mouse pointer - so I have to go into a console and shut down.  So I will 
be very wary of upgrading to Karmic unless the Beta behaves itself.

Tony 





From javadayaz at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 10:18:36 2009
From: javadayaz at gmail.com (javadayaz)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:18:36 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Where is everyone!?
Message-ID: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com>

Is this list still active?

Ive recently noticed i dont get that many emails from this list anymore! I
wonder if people have moved on to other lists or just dont need that much
help anymore.

-- 
Regards

Javad
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From gord.allott at canonical.com  Wed Sep  2 10:24:21 2009
From: gord.allott at canonical.com (Gordon Allott)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:24:21 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Where is everyone!?
In-Reply-To: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1251883459.17297.2.camel@zazu>

On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 10:18 +0100, javadayaz wrote:
> Is this list still active? 
>  
> Ive recently noticed i dont get that many emails from this list
> anymore! I wonder if people have moved on to other lists or just dont
> need that much help anymore.


I think most people have just been a little bit busy of late :) been a
while since a new ubuntu has come out so things quiet down before the
storm too ;)
Of course the best way to get people talking is to start a conversation!
find an interesting bit of ubuntu news relating to the uk (or not) post
it and see what people think, have an idea about some sort of event,
post it and see if anyone is interested :) 

I'm not sure what the plans are for release party's next month but It
would be interesting to get things going on that front too

-- 
Gordon Allott <gord.allott at canonical.com>
Canonical
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From javadayaz at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 10:24:57 2009
From: javadayaz at gmail.com (javadayaz)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:24:57 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Where is everyone!?
In-Reply-To: <4A9E392B.4030601@googlemail.com>
References: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A9E392B.4030601@googlemail.com>
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no i havent subscribed to anything.

I was just curious because the number of help emails has gone really done.
But that probably could be attributed to what David just referred to !

2009/9/2 David Jones <djones.dancol at googlemail.com>

> I've seen two messages today asking if the list is still active, but
> nothing for a couple of days previously.
>
> I would guess that because its summer, children are just ending their
> school holidays or starting back at school that people have been quite
> busy over the last week or so and not had much time for mailing lists
> and queries.
>
> Dave
>
> javadayaz wrote:
> > Is this list still active?
> >
> > Ive recently noticed i dont get that many emails from this list anymore!
> > I wonder if people have moved on to other lists or just dont need that
> > much help anymore.
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Javad
> >
>
>  --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>



-- 
Regards

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From Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 10:56:42 2009
From: Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk (Darren.Mansell at opengi.co.uk)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:56:42 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Where is everyone!?
In-Reply-To: <4d950e240909020224v12d2134fwab9e6b734d31ede9@mail.gmail.com>
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no i havent subscribed to anything. 

 

I was just curious because the number of help emails has gone really
done. But that probably could be attributed to what David just referred
to ! 

 

 

I think we've just reached the stage where Ubuntu is perfect!

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From kenny at heloo.net  Wed Sep  2 11:01:21 2009
From: kenny at heloo.net (Kenny Coyle)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:01:21 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Where is everyone!?
In-Reply-To: <1251883459.17297.2.camel@zazu>
References: <4d950e240909020218n7e0c0bd1me8cb2f4907076c61@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1251883459.17297.2.camel@zazu>
Message-ID: <34ae107d0909020301y52628290t431fcf60493865fd@mail.gmail.com>

On the note or releae parties, has much been planned for a Glasgow release
party?

2009/9/2 Gordon Allott <gord.allott at canonical.com>

> On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 10:18 +0100, javadayaz wrote:
> > Is this list still active?
> >
> > Ive recently noticed i dont get that many emails from this list
> > anymore! I wonder if people have moved on to other lists or just dont
> > need that much help anymore.
>
>
> I think most people have just been a little bit busy of late :) been a
> while since a new ubuntu has come out so things quiet down before the
> storm too ;)
> Of course the best way to get people talking is to start a conversation!
> find an interesting bit of ubuntu news relating to the uk (or not) post
> it and see what people think, have an idea about some sort of event,
> post it and see if anyone is interested :)
>
> I'm not sure what the plans are for release party's next month but It
> would be interesting to get things going on that front too
>
> --
> Gordon Allott <gord.allott at canonical.com>
> Canonical
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>
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From davmor2 at davmor2.co.uk  Wed Sep  2 12:39:39 2009
From: davmor2 at davmor2.co.uk (Dave Morley)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:39:39 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <1251891056.7322.10.camel@hbartels-laptop>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com>	<op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe>
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On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 12:30 +0100, huet bartels wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
> Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.
> 
> If so could you recommend the best one to purchase.
> 
> Thank you in advance
> 
> Huet Bartels
> 
> 
3 works fine I like the fact that their website is available for voucher
addons.  Tmobile works but their site is useless unless you have their
own windows app installed.  Virgin is on the tmobile network so that
should be similar.

Not tried Voda or O2
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From binarysignal at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 12:40:54 2009
From: binarysignal at gmail.com (Colin McCarthy)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:40:54 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle
In-Reply-To: <4A9E58F3.5060603@ubuntu.com>
References: <4A93066C.9080804@avoura.com> <op.uy728zjc3z9ow3@wharfe> 
	<4A943934.1090703@avoura.com> <op.uzbow9g43z9ow3@wharfe>
	<4A97E590.2030303@avoura.com> <4A9E370D.9070703@avoura.com>
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2009/9/2 Dave Walker <DaveWalker at ubuntu.com>

> huet bartels wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
>  > Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.
>

Hi
I have a Huawei 169g 3G Dongle on '3' and it just works in Ubuntu. Just plug
it in, following the simple wizard and you are connected.   Some of the
newer dongles might not work to start with but with 9.10 only a month away I
am sure they will soon.

Colin
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From andy at tensixtyone.com  Wed Sep  2 13:54:16 2009
From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:54:16 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] [Event] Liverpool Linux User Group Meeting - 2nd Sept 09
Message-ID: <20090902125415.GB11324@manex.tensixtyone.com>

A little late, but we're meeting tonight for anyone interested:

Liverpool Linux User Group - September 2009
Date Wed September 2nd, 2009 from 7:00pm - 8:00pm 
Location: Liverpool Social Centre, 96 Bold Street, Liverpool, England L1 4HY 

Liverpool Linux User Group are a group of Linux and open source software users that meet on the first 
Wednesday of the month. If no talk is organised then we will usually organise a .open stage. for people 
to discuss projects, current news, or just to rant.

Main Talk 
Unfortunately, Simon has had to pull out at the last minute. He has been unable to finish the slides due 
to his house move, but we will be having up later on this year.

Open Stage 
The stage will be opened for anyone to pimp their current projects or give a short talk about any 
subject. This month myself and Dan will be pimping the upcoming LUGRadio Live 2009 and OggCamp, and 
giving plenty of reasons for people to come down and have a blast in Wolverhampton.

Doors are usually open before 7:00pm if people want to meet up in the centre, The Liverpool Social Centre 
is two doors up from Forbidden Planet and is the right-hand door at the front of .News From Nowhere.. 
Check the window for a handy Liverpool LUG sign, which will indicate we are there and not still at the 
pub. Press the white doorbell for access (the one marked basement) and someone will come up and open the 
door for you.

After any talks are finished will usually stay in the meeting area until 8:00pm then head out to a local 
pub, depending on recommendations of the night it maybe The Welkin at the bottom of Lord Street, or 
another pub in the local area.

Website: http://livlug.org.uk/ 
Wheres The Geeks: http://www.wheresthegeeks.co.uk/liverpool/2009/09/liverpool-linux-user-group 
Upcoming.org: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/4390357

-- 
Andrew Williams
w: http://tensixtyone.com/
e: andy (at) tensixtyone.com
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From jonptaylor at btinternet.com  Thu Sep  3 21:17:13 2009
From: jonptaylor at btinternet.com (Jon Taylor)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:17:13 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
Message-ID: <000001ca2cd3$9b87cb90$d29762b0$@com>

Hi all,

I'm looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a
laptop and broadband dongle. We've (sort of) found a laptop that we're going
to put Jaunty onto but I'd like to know if there are any ISP's we should
look at and also any we should avoid?

Also are there issues with dongles and Ubuntu or is it going to be plain
sailing? Please bear in mind that this is going to be for a recently retired
person who has only ever had MS OS's so he definitely won't understand
terminal or other technical stuff. I'll probably be the one setting it all
up for him.

I'd be really grateful for any advice and/or warnings of potential hazards.

Thanks

Jon

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1st Choice Bathrooms

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From bruce72 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 09:06:18 2009
From: bruce72 at gmail.com (Bruce Beardall)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:06:18 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] dead netbook
Message-ID: <4cc601d30909080106w4fd4f869u710c1e1bb975204f@mail.gmail.com>

Pressed the power button on my Acer Aspire One this morning and the button
light goes on followed by the whirring of the fan but that's it. Not even a
BIOS to hack into.

Any ideas?

Anyone heard of this happening to other Aspire Ones?

It's currently got Jaunty installed which was running fine - the only
different thing I've done was play with a live USB Puppy Linux yesterday
evening. Seems unlikely that that fried everything.

Cheers

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From bruce72 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 09:35:59 2009
From: bruce72 at gmail.com (Bruce Beardall)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:35:59 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] dead netbook
In-Reply-To: <4AA61452.4080706@esdelle.co.uk>
References: <4cc601d30909080106w4fd4f869u710c1e1bb975204f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA61452.4080706@esdelle.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4cc601d30909080135o12e5176and9a8c3a42f5daea7@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Rob

I'll have to wait until this evening but I'll give it a go.

Cheers

Bruce


2009/9/8 Rob Beard <rob at esdelle.co.uk>

> Bruce Beardall wrote:
> > Pressed the power button on my Acer Aspire One this morning and the
> > button light goes on followed by the whirring of the fan but that's
> > it. Not even a BIOS to hack into.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Anyone heard of this happening to other Aspire Ones?
> >
> > It's currently got Jaunty installed which was running fine - the only
> > different thing I've done was play with a live USB Puppy Linux
> > yesterday evening. Seems unlikely that that fried everything.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> Hi Bruce,
>
> I've heard about Aspire One machines dying before, IIRC it was something
> to do with the BIOS.  You could try this -
> http://macles.blogspot.com/2008/08/acer-aspire-one-bios-recovery.html
>
> Worth a shot, and it appears it can be done through Linux (just put the
> files on a FAT formatted USB stick).
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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From bruce72 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 09:08:07 2009
From: bruce72 at gmail.com (Bruce Beardall)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:08:07 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] dead netbook
In-Reply-To: <7a11bc210909081117p79dcea83ka241f1d30e865447@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4cc601d30909080106w4fd4f869u710c1e1bb975204f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA61452.4080706@esdelle.co.uk>
	<4cc601d30909080135o12e5176and9a8c3a42f5daea7@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a11bc210909081117p79dcea83ka241f1d30e865447@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4cc601d30909090108i29d75c0ep793721cf07efdb70@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the replies Rob and Kris.

Unfortunately, no joy. Looks like I'll have to get hold of the repair
centre.

If I have an update I'll add it here for reference.

Cheers

Bruce


2009/9/8 Kris Douglas <krisdouglas at gmail.com>

> What Rob said, thats exactly what happens when the bios fails. Link
> posted works a treat.
>
> 2009/9/8 Bruce Beardall <bruce72 at gmail.com>:
> > Thanks Rob
> >
> > I'll have to wait until this evening but I'll give it a go.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > 2009/9/8 Rob Beard <rob at esdelle.co.uk>
> >>
> >> Bruce Beardall wrote:
> >> > Pressed the power button on my Acer Aspire One this morning and the
> >> > button light goes on followed by the whirring of the fan but that's
> >> > it. Not even a BIOS to hack into.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> > Anyone heard of this happening to other Aspire Ones?
> >> >
> >> > It's currently got Jaunty installed which was running fine - the only
> >> > different thing I've done was play with a live USB Puppy Linux
> >> > yesterday evening. Seems unlikely that that fried everything.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> > Bruce
> >> >
> >> Hi Bruce,
> >>
> >> I've heard about Aspire One machines dying before, IIRC it was something
> >> to do with the BIOS.  You could try this -
> >> http://macles.blogspot.com/2008/08/acer-aspire-one-bios-recovery.html
> >>
> >> Worth a shot, and it appears it can be done through Linux (just put the
> >> files on a FAT formatted USB stick).
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> >
> >
> > --
> > ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Kris Douglas
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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From javadayaz at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 12:37:49 2009
From: javadayaz at gmail.com (javadayaz)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:37:49 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control
Message-ID: <4d950e240909150437q26ca11a9o72a3c756c87e8b62@mail.gmail.com>

How well has this been implemented in the Ubuntu Environment? A pc
controlled by voice (especially its media) is what im thinking of here!

-- 
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From javadayaz at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 13:02:19 2009
From: javadayaz at gmail.com (javadayaz)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:02:19 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control
In-Reply-To: <eba6d2300909150454t111a1436i662de3793ccb84ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d950e240909150437q26ca11a9o72a3c756c87e8b62@mail.gmail.com>
	<eba6d2300909150454t111a1436i662de3793ccb84ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4d950e240909150502icc6d051w8598d06b3a2fc438@mail.gmail.com>

it just occurred to me that a voice controlled media centre would be really
cool.  The only problem i can forsee is, if playing with high volume, the pc
might not pick up the user's voice.




2009/9/15 Alan Pope <alan at popey.com>

> 2009/9/15 javadayaz <javadayaz at gmail.com>:
> > How well has this been implemented in the Ubuntu Environment? A pc
> > controlled by voice (especially its media) is what im thinking of here!
> >
>
> Seems a popular idea:-
>
> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1826/
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>



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From javadayaz at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 14:32:15 2009
From: javadayaz at gmail.com (javadayaz)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:32:15 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control
In-Reply-To: <f63db7860909150624m12ababb1hafd9b27d3d7e4b9d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4d950e240909150437q26ca11a9o72a3c756c87e8b62@mail.gmail.com>
	<eba6d2300909150454t111a1436i662de3793ccb84ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<4d950e240909150502icc6d051w8598d06b3a2fc438@mail.gmail.com>
	<f63db7860909150624m12ababb1hafd9b27d3d7e4b9d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4d950e240909150632x68460ca6v12682bd598203290@mail.gmail.com>

you make a valid point!

2009/9/15 Jonathon Fernyhough <j.fernyhough at gmail.com>

> 2009/9/15 javadayaz <javadayaz at gmail.com>:
> >
> > 2009/9/15 Alan Pope <alan at popey.com>
> >>
> >> 2009/9/15 javadayaz <javadayaz at gmail.com>:
> >> > How well has this been implemented in the Ubuntu Environment? A pc
> >> > controlled by voice (especially its media) is what im thinking of
> here!
> >> >
> >>
> >> Seems a popular idea:-
> >>
> >> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1826/
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Al.
> >>
> > it just occurred to me that a voice controlled media centre would be
> really
> > cool.  The only problem i can forsee is, if playing with high volume, the
> pc
> > might not pick up the user's voice.
> >
> >
>
> Or when you offend your Ubuntu installation by playing loud rap music.
> I hesitate to think what effect The Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up"
> would have...
>
> --
>  ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>



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From softy.lofty.ilp at btinternet.com  Tue Sep 15 20:53:18 2009
From: softy.lofty.ilp at btinternet.com (Ian Pascoe)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:53:18 -0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control
In-Reply-To: <4d950e240909150632x68460ca6v12682bd598203290@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BJEBIDFAKAGIFDCKKHILKEHMHKAA.softy.lofty.ilp@btinternet.com>

Yep, lots of people working on voice / speech recognition, but still lots of
problems to overcome - the least of which are the kernels audio sub system,
and that current versions require the real-time kernel too!

Ian -----Original Message-----
From: ubuntu-uk-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-uk-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com]On Behalf Of javadayaz
Sent: 15 September 2009 14:32
To: UK Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control


  you make a valid point!


  2009/9/15 Jonathon Fernyhough <j.fernyhough at gmail.com>

    2009/9/15 javadayaz <javadayaz at gmail.com>:
    >
    > 2009/9/15 Alan Pope <alan at popey.com>
    >>
    >> 2009/9/15 javadayaz <javadayaz at gmail.com>:
    >> > How well has this been implemented in the Ubuntu Environment? A pc
    >> > controlled by voice (especially its media) is what im thinking of
here!
    >> >
    >>
    >> Seems a popular idea:-
    >>
    >> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1826/
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >> Al.
    >>

    > it just occurred to me that a voice controlled media centre would be
really
    > cool.  The only problem i can forsee is, if playing with high volume,
the pc
    > might not pick up the user's voice.
    >
    >


    Or when you offend your Ubuntu installation by playing loud rap music.
    I hesitate to think what effect The Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up"
    would have...

    --

    ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
    https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/





  --
  Regards

  Javad
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From andy at strugglers.net  Thu Sep 17 03:43:54 2009
From: andy at strugglers.net (Andy Smith)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:43:54 +0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Banking Code section 12.9 - Open Letter to
	Banking	Code Standards Board
In-Reply-To: <4AB1326F.9050103@candt.waitrose.com>
References: <4AB1326F.9050103@candt.waitrose.com>
Message-ID: <20090917024353.GY5094@bitfolk.com>

Hello Alan,

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 07:46:07PM +0100, alan c wrote:
> I note that the Banking code section 12.9 advises users to 'Keep your
> PC secure'.
> http://www.bankingcode.org.uk/pdfdocs/PERSONAL_CODE_2008.PDF
> 
> This is something I fully support.
> 
> However the Code goes on to give specific advice about how this should
> be achieved:
> 'Use up-to-date anti-virus and spyware software and a personal firewall'.

[...]

> Please inform me of the recommended software for non Windows systems
> for functions of anti virus and anti spyware functions?

It doesn't make specific recommendations for Windows systems.
Should the age come where Linux desktops are in the majority, they
will also require anti-virus and spyware software.

They are just trying to help as many people as possible without
getting bogged down in technical details.  It's a one line
suggestion.  Do you really expect a banking leaflet to go into the
pros and cons of secure computing?

Cheers,
Andy

-- 
http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

You dont have to be illiterate to use the Internet, but it help's.
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From rlancefield at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 12:39:36 2009
From: rlancefield at gmail.com (Roger Lancefield)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:39:36 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia driver resolution support
Message-ID: <957338c20909170439had01f42x205c5d7d3f247d1f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm running a dual-head Nvidia 7600 GS on Jaunty with the proprietary Nvidia
driver.

Does anyone know if the driver supports 2048x1152? In particular (probably
not a common combination) does anyone happen to know if it will support this
resolution together with an existing 1920x1200 panel?

The card and driver have been excellent and very flexible so far. They've
been perfectly happy runnning TwinView across initially a 1680x1050 and
1280x1024 pair, and currently 1920x1200 and 1280x1024.

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From gord.allott at canonical.com  Fri Sep 18 14:38:51 2009
From: gord.allott at canonical.com (Gordon Allott)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:38:51 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Nvidia driver resolution support
In-Reply-To: <957338c20909170439had01f42x205c5d7d3f247d1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <957338c20909170439had01f42x205c5d7d3f247d1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB38D6B.20009@canonical.com>

Roger Lancefield wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm running a dual-head Nvidia 7600 GS on Jaunty with the proprietary Nvidia
> driver.
> 
> Does anyone know if the driver supports 2048x1152? In particular (probably
> not a common combination) does anyone happen to know if it will support this
> resolution together with an existing 1920x1200 panel?
> 
> The card and driver have been excellent and very flexible so far. They've
> been perfectly happy runnning TwinView across initially a 1680x1050 and
> 1280x1024 pair, and currently 1920x1200 and 1280x1024.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
Hi!

There is nothing that i know of that would prevent the driver running at that
resolution, its more your monitor hardware that will prevent odd resolutions

Gord,

-- 
Gord Allott (gord.allott at canonical.com)

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From linux at soslug.org  Sun Sep 20 10:30:10 2009
From: linux at soslug.org (linux)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:30:10 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Global Jam
Message-ID: <4AB5F622.20200@soslug.org>

Have already asked on loco-contacts

Hello all,

I am a bit new to this list so still finding my feet.

The Southend on Sea Linux User Group is running a Ubuntu Global Jam on
both the 3rd and 4th of October, however I have no developers or
specialists within my group although we will demonstrate as best we can.

I would have thought there would be many Ubuntu developers in or around
my area we have a large generous venue free food and refreshments,
parking and two days worth of tutorials. We would like to draft in some
developers or other specialist such as programmers if we can, I am not
sure if this is the right place to do it but perhaps someone would be
kind enough to tell me.

Derek Shaw (Representing Southend on Sea Linux User Group)

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From linux at soslug.org  Sun Sep 20 12:54:22 2009
From: linux at soslug.org (linux)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:54:22 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Global Jam
In-Reply-To: <4AB61114.7090006@lake54.com>
References: <4AB5F622.20200@soslug.org> <4AB61114.7090006@lake54.com>
Message-ID: <4AB617EE.3090601@soslug.org>

Thanks James with less than two weeks to go I am a little apprehensive 
perhaps.

cheers
Derek Shaw

James Milligan wrote:
> I'm not a developer myself (not even a full Ubuntu user) but there is 
> bound to be someone on this list that can assist you, so expect a 
> response shortly!
> 
> James
> 
> linux wrote:
>> Have already asked on loco-contacts
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am a bit new to this list so still finding my feet.
>>
>> The Southend on Sea Linux User Group is running a Ubuntu Global Jam on
>> both the 3rd and 4th of October, however I have no developers or
>> specialists within my group although we will demonstrate as best we can.
>>
>> I would have thought there would be many Ubuntu developers in or around
>> my area we have a large generous venue free food and refreshments,
>> parking and two days worth of tutorials. We would like to draft in some
>> developers or other specialist such as programmers if we can, I am not
>> sure if this is the right place to do it but perhaps someone would be
>> kind enough to tell me.
>>
>> Derek Shaw (Representing Southend on Sea Linux User Group) 
> 

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From binarysignal at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 13:46:37 2009
From: binarysignal at gmail.com (Colin McCarthy)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:46:37 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Synching calendars,
	contacts and tasks with mobile 	phone
In-Reply-To: <4AB621EC.9040003@sky.com>
References: <h957hi$1rn$1@ger.gmane.org> <4AB621EC.9040003@sky.com>
Message-ID: <c857d49a0909200546g4dd5b071k47387d2479c75684@mail.gmail.com>

2009/9/20 John Matthews <jakewc2 at sky.com>

> I use Thunderbird and Google Calendar and my Nokia E71 and synch it all
> with Goosynch. It works really well.
>
> John
>

I use http://www.goosync.com/ too and it is a great product. Well worth
yearly or lifetime fee for contact and tasks syncing. The free version only
does calendar syncing.

Colin

>
>
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From sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 16:49:38 2009
From: sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com (Stephen Garton)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:49:38 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Podcast on Google Listen
Message-ID: <9474ced90909200849j4f9a1128v69a29b76c324a765@mail.gmail.com>

Afternoon all,

I've just installed Google Listen on my Android phone, and I can't find the
ubuntu-uk podcast on it :-(

Does anyone know if it (Listen) is like itunes, and feeds have to be
'submitted'? I've found a couple of the BBC podcasts I listen to on there,
but not sure how the search works.

Steve Garton
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From javadayaz at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 16:58:31 2009
From: javadayaz at gmail.com (javadayaz)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:58:31 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Podcast on Google Listen
In-Reply-To: <9474ced90909200849j4f9a1128v69a29b76c324a765@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9474ced90909200849j4f9a1128v69a29b76c324a765@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4d950e240909200858g460bf7ccybfa8c54693fac7d2@mail.gmail.com>

submit a request to the listen team.they'll add it for you.

On 20 Sep 2009 16:50, "Stephen Garton" <sheepeatingtaz at gmail.com> wrote:

Afternoon all,

I've just installed Google Listen on my Android phone, and I can't find the
ubuntu-uk podcast on it :-(

Does anyone know if it (Listen) is like itunes, and feeds have to be
'submitted'? I've found a couple of the BBC podcasts I listen to on there,
but not sure how the search works.

Steve Garton

--
ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
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From kirrus at kirrus.co.uk  Mon Sep 21 18:19:30 2009
From: kirrus at kirrus.co.uk (Johnathon Tinsley)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:19:30 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Global BugJam UK
Message-ID: <4AB7B5A2.6070207@kirrus.co.uk>

Hello All,

I've not seen much information here about the Global Bugjam. Are the UK
meetings going ahead? Are the venues set? Where can I find directions?
(There is a reason some of my friends nicknamed me A-Z...)

Best :)

Johnathon

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From andy at tensixtyone.com  Tue Sep 22 08:29:05 2009
From: andy at tensixtyone.com (Andrew Williams)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:29:05 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Geotagging photos
In-Reply-To: <4AB7EB9A.6070909@gmail.com>
References: <4AB7EB9A.6070909@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090922072905.GA21391@manex.tensixtyone.com>

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:09:46PM +0100, John Levin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm looking for a way to geotag photos by pointing to a position on a
> map. The mac app iPhoto has this facility (though I'm not entirely happy 
> with it's implementation) but so far haven't found anything similar that 
> runs on linux. DigiKam has an option for uploading gps tracks, but I 
> really want the map. Any suggestions?
> 

Geotag[1] seems to cover the features you need. Not sure if Ubuntu 
already has a package for it or not.

[1] http://geotag.sourceforge.net/

-- 
Andrew Williams
w: http://tensixtyone.com/
e: andy (at) tensixtyone.com
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From bruce72 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 10:48:51 2009
From: bruce72 at gmail.com (Bruce Beardall)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:48:51 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <h9cpsn$cb6$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com> <h9cpsn$cb6$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4cc601d30909230248k7aef4dfk4316bcdf4f1a3c09@mail.gmail.com>

Amazon Mp3
Play.com
We7
Spotify
Last.fm
Magnatune

and these are just off the top of my head. The list of alternatives to
iTunes gets longer every day. Give them a go, you might surprise yourself as
to how easy it is to change provider.

Regards

Bruce


2009/9/23 Gordon <gbplinux at gmail.com>

> Rik Boland wrote:
> > I am still trying to install itunes on Wine but it wont work - any idea's
> >
> > Should wine have some form of window/desk top (GNU?) as me just get a
> > list of programs to run and itunes is not one them!
> >
> > Shalom
> >
>
> Not really an answer but I went through this recently and I've ditched
> iTunes completely, even on Windows. There are so many other legal music
> download sites now that do not have the restrictions and DRM of iTunes
> and some are considerably cheaper.
> My son-in-law told me of a site www.legalsounds.com where an MP3
> download is US$0.09!!!!! that's about FOUR pence!
>
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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From davmor2 at davmor2.co.uk  Wed Sep 23 10:54:32 2009
From: davmor2 at davmor2.co.uk (Dave Morley)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:54:32 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.
In-Reply-To: <4cc601d30909230248k7aef4dfk4316bcdf4f1a3c09@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB9DC38.10705@Btinternet.com> <h9cpsn$cb6$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<4cc601d30909230248k7aef4dfk4316bcdf4f1a3c09@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1253699672.4678.14.camel@smegol>

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:48 +0100, Bruce Beardall wrote:
> Amazon Mp3
Seconded and has a linux downloader.  It is easy to search and use an is
of identical quality to itunes.  Plus great service.

Magnatunes has some great music on for unknown bands.  The only issue
there is they don't accept debit card and it takes a while to find a
group with music that you like, however when you do the music is amasing
I thoroughly recommend this :)  8 dollars for an entire digital album
too.

--
 Thy Might Know

http://www.davmor2.co.uk
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From selinium at googlemail.com  Wed Sep 23 14:33:34 2009
From: selinium at googlemail.com (James Thomas)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:33:34 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Global Jam
In-Reply-To: <4AB5F622.20200@soslug.org>
References: <4AB5F622.20200@soslug.org>
Message-ID: <2dfb08a10909230633g73d86fd3w7694cae187f7d3da@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,
My name is James (selinuxium -in #ubuntu-uk)

I am running the London GlobalJam venue, I also am a Southend resident.

Worried that having two jams so close may leave us with a depleted user
base.
Maybe we can chat and sort out, one for Sat and one Sun...

I don't know... Catch me in IRC or mail me back!

Cheers

James Thomas

2009/9/20 linux <linux at soslug.org>

> Have already asked on loco-contacts
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am a bit new to this list so still finding my feet.
>
> The Southend on Sea Linux User Group is running a Ubuntu Global Jam on
> both the 3rd and 4th of October, however I have no developers or
> specialists within my group although we will demonstrate as best we can.
>
> I would have thought there would be many Ubuntu developers in or around
> my area we have a large generous venue free food and refreshments,
> parking and two days worth of tutorials. We would like to draft in some
> developers or other specialist such as programmers if we can, I am not
> sure if this is the right place to do it but perhaps someone would be
> kind enough to tell me.
>
> Derek Shaw (Representing Southend on Sea Linux User Group)
>
>
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From philwyett at gmx.com  Thu Sep 24 06:58:38 2009
From: philwyett at gmx.com (Philip Wyett)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:58:38 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Mobile broadband usage monitor
In-Reply-To: <200909231617.01496.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
References: <200909231549.27484.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
	<h9dcpu$dkt$1@ger.gmane.org> <h9ddci$g1i$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<200909231617.01496.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1253771918.6358.3.camel@wyett-diamond>

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 16:17 +0100, Mark Fraser wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 September 2009 16:03:45 Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> > On 23/09/09 15:53, Gordon wrote:
> > > Mark Fraser wrote:
> > >> I'm intending on setting my sister up with a netbook running UNR 9.04
> > >> for use with Orange mobile broadband. Is there an application -
> > >> preferably one which will sit in the bar at the top - and notify her of
> > >> her usage?
> >
> > This won't sit in the top but will keep a track of usage and enables SMS
> > support: http://wader-project.org/ (We funded a good chunk of this
> > project).
> 
> That doesn't seem to support the Huawei E160 modem and will it conflict with 
> network-manager?

Hi,

I run a Huawei E160 on t-mobile fine with Ubuntu 8.04 and up using
wader. Can't say about Network-Manager as I run WICD.

Regards

Phil
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From mez at ubuntu.com  Fri Sep 25 22:30:35 2009
From: mez at ubuntu.com (Martin Meredith)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:30:35 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Birmingham Global Jam
Message-ID: <20090925213035.GB25100@lazy.sourceguru.net>

A Birmingham Ubuntu Global Jam is being held on Friday 2nd October,
Saturday 3rd October and Sunday 4th October 2009 at The Linux Emporium
Offices which are at Minworth, Sutton Coldfield, Birmingham.

To quote from the wiki page,
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam?action=show&redirect=GlobalJam :

"The Ubuntu Global Jam is an incredible opportunity for the Ubuntu
community to unite together around the weekend of 2nd - 4th Oct 2009 to
work together to improve Ubuntu. Everyone is able to contribute to the
Jam, and everyone is welcome and encouraged to get involved. Curious
about how to make a real difference to Ubuntu? This is a great chance to
make that difference.

Each event has one or more of our four themes:
    Bugs - finding, triaging and fixing bugs.
    Testing - testing the new release and reporting your feedback.
    Documentation - writing documentation about how to use Ubuntu and
how to join the community.
    Translations - translating Ubuntu and helping to make it available
in everyone's local language.
    Packaging - work on Ubuntu packages and improve them
    Other - other types of contribution such as marketing, packaging,
advocacy etc."

.. which makes about 6 or so themes! Although we'll probably concentrate
on triaging and maybe fixing bugs. There will be experts on hand to
explain how to do it.

For more information see this wiki page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalJam/Birmingham

Please add your name to the list on this page if you're planning to come.

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From gord.allott at canonical.com  Sat Sep 26 21:57:35 2009
From: gord.allott at canonical.com (Gordon Allott)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:57:35 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Karmic (9.10) party
Message-ID: <4ABE803F.4090109@canonical.com>

Hi,

Sooo its that time of year again when we need to start organising release
parties and since I am closest to Manchester.. :)

So yeah this thread is a good place for discussion on that, venues? dates? ideas?

Karmic is released on thursday (always a thursday) the 29th october but there's
nothing that says it has to be held on a thursday.

so yeah, venues, dates and any ideas of things to do there are all welcome.

Gord,

-- 
Gord Allott (gord.allott at canonical.com)

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From javadayaz at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 00:11:18 2009
From: javadayaz at gmail.com (javadayaz)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:11:18 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source
In-Reply-To: <4ABFEF90.1020102@Btinternet.com>
References: <4ABFEF90.1020102@Btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <4d950e240909271611l4adc1d15pba6deb90c8e73c6a@mail.gmail.com>

Not the n900?

On 28 Sep 2009 00:05, "Rik Boland" <Rik_Boland at btinternet.com> wrote:

Nokia is releasing a new phone the runs Linux?

What model is it?

Shalom

Rik

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From selinium at googlemail.com  Mon Sep 28 16:28:57 2009
From: selinium at googlemail.com (James Thomas)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:28:57 +0100
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London
Message-ID: <2dfb08a10909280828t349f7925w93201bc8015b84a2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there everyone,

I need to get an idea of numbers and on what day they might attend the
London Jam at Finsbury circus.
Also, it would be great to know if there are any people willing to lead any
session?

Please get back to me anyone who is interested in attending.

Cheers

JT

#ubuntu-uk  selinuxium
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From cumminsl10290 at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 28 21:09:20 2009
From: cumminsl10290 at hotmail.com (leroy whyte)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:09:20 +0000
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London
In-Reply-To: <2dfb08a10909280828t349f7925w93201bc8015b84a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2dfb08a10909280828t349f7925w93201bc8015b84a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL109-W46821F9D82AF4FAB7796C0FBD60@phx.gbl>


Hi James, i would like to attend for both days, as well as possibly 1 other for at least one day.
Thanks in advance.
Leroy.

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:28:57 +0100
From: selinium at googlemail.com
To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] GlobalJam - London

Hi there everyone,

I need to get an idea of numbers and on what day they might attend the London Jam at Finsbury circus.
Also, it would be great to know if there are any people willing to lead any session?


Please get back to me anyone who is interested in attending.

Cheers

JT

#ubuntu-uk  selinuxium
 		 	   		  
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Sep 28 21:33:24 2009
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:33:24 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.66.1255076482.4667.ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com>

for USB devices to boot from first and GRUB is started. However it
will always result in an Error 17, unless I boot to the Windows log in
screen first, restart, and then it will boot from USB again but this
time find the hard disk.

I have a feeling the UUID is not "set" when GRUB starts so it cannot
find the USB stick it is actually installed on. Once Windows has
assigned a UUID then after a warm boot (restart) from Windows the UUID
sticks and I can boot Ubuntu. I can restart from Ubuntu too as many
times as I want, just can't do a complete shutdown.

Is there a solution to this, I've tried looking on forums etc, but
this seems to be a fairly obscure problem. If you require any more
information (lspc etc) please ask.

Regards,

Ciar=C3=A1n


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Sep 28 21:33:24 2009
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:33:24 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.84.1255545638.4667.ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com>

"To upgrade from Ubuntu 9.04 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and
type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box.
Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release
'9.10' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen
instructions."

Best,

Sean


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Sep 28 21:33:24 2009
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:33:24 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.85.1255546942.4667.ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com>

<br>
&quot;To upgrade from Ubuntu 9.04 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and<br>
type in &quot;update-manager -d&quot; (without the quotes) into the command=
 box.<br>
Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release<br>
&#39;9.10&#39; is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen<br>
instructions.&quot;<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Sean<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>Ah, that worked, just upgrading now. I am dreadin=
g this though, my laptop didnt like 8.10 from 8.04, so I am just hoping its=
 going to like this upgrade.=A0 <br><br>Thank you.<br><br>John.<br><br><br>
</div></div>

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Sep 28 21:33:24 2009
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:33:24 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.156.1257242619.4667.ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com>

expect something to work out of the box, so when it does it's not considered
newsworthy...

The large majority of people i've spoken to are loving Karmic...

Ed

2009/11/3 Sean Miller <sean at seanmiller.net>

> Please don't get me wrong: I was merely asking the question, as I
> think that 6 months is a very ambitious timescale to get a completely
> new distribution built.
>
> The LTS vs. regular releases thing is, imho, rather a red herring -
> the implication seems to be that it is okay to market an "unfinished
> release" as long as it isn't LTS, which I could not agree with.  The
> LTS is, unless I'm very much mistaken, supposed to give people
> reassurances that they will not HAVE to upgrade to maintain support,
> not a moniker that says "LTS are the proper stable releases and
> everything else is unstable" - if this is in fact the case then why
> don't we use the terms "stable" and "unstable" rather than "long term
> support" which intuitively has to do with support a year down the line
> rather than the quality of the delivered product.   If I was
> considering a novice user and I was about to install a new desktop I'd
> look at 9.04 and 9.10 and say "right, what's the difference?" and the
> sites etc. would tell me "9.04 is older but will be supported longer"
> so I'd think "well, don't use support anyway and may upgrade before
> then so I'll go for 9.10" - wouldn't most people???
>
> So I do not agree with the idea that non-LTS versions are inherently
> buggy.  For that is not what the acronym says, and if that is what it
> is meant to mean I suggest we get a new acronym.
>
> Sean
>
> --
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>



-- 
Ed Morgan

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the
black flag, and begin to slit throats." - H. L. Mencken

http://last.fm/user/mo6020
http://dontfightthefuture.com

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Just to throw my oar in, I&#39;ve upgraded 2 boxes to Karmic, one elderly A=
cer laptop, and an ancient desktop. Both of which just worked.<br><br>As so=
meone said earlier, people are clearly not doing any research on hardware p=
rior to upgrading, and the bad press is getting outweighed by the good pres=
s.As Popey mentioned.. &quot;balance&quot;..<br>
<br>From my experience, users will normally only complain about something; =
they expect something to work out of the box, so when it does it&#39;s not =
considered newsworthy...<br><br>The large majority of people i&#39;ve spoke=
n to are loving Karmic...<br>
<br>Ed<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/3 Sean Miller <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sean at seanmiller.net">sean at seanmiller.net</a>&gt=
;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Please don&#39;t get me wrong: I was merely asking the question, as I<br>
think that 6 months is a very ambitious timescale to get a completely<br>
new distribution built.<br>
<br>
The LTS vs. regular releases thing is, imho, rather a red herring -<br>
the implication seems to be that it is okay to market an &quot;unfinished<b=
r>
release&quot; as long as it isn&#39;t LTS, which I could not agree with. =
=A0The<br>
LTS is, unless I&#39;m very much mistaken, supposed to give people<br>
reassurances that they will not HAVE to upgrade to maintain support,<br>
not a moniker that says &quot;LTS are the proper stable releases and<br>
everything else is unstable&quot; - if this is in fact the case then why<br=
>
don&#39;t we use the terms &quot;stable&quot; and &quot;unstable&quot; rath=
er than &quot;long term<br>
support&quot; which intuitively has to do with support a year down the line=
<br>
rather than the quality of the delivered product. =A0 If I was<br>
considering a novice user and I was about to install a new desktop I&#39;d<=
br>
look at 9.04 and 9.10 and say &quot;right, what&#39;s the difference?&quot;=
 and the<br>
sites etc. would tell me &quot;9.04 is older but will be supported longer&q=
uot;<br>
so I&#39;d think &quot;well, don&#39;t use support anyway and may upgrade b=
efore<br>
then so I&#39;ll go for 9.10&quot; - wouldn&#39;t most people???<br>
<br>
So I do not agree with the idea that non-LTS versions are inherently<br>
buggy. =A0For that is not what the acronym says, and if that is what it<br>
is meant to mean I suggest we get a new acronym.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Sean<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
--<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk" target=3D"_=
blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.=
ubuntu.com/UKTeam/</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Ed Morgan<b=
r><br>&quot;Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands,=
 hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.&quot; - H. L. Mencken<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://last.fm/user/mo6020">http://last.fm/user/mo6020</a><b=
r><a href=3D"http://dontfightthefuture.com">http://dontfightthefuture.com</=
a><br>

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