[Ubuntu-US-CA] LoCo Contact Forwards

Amber Graner akgraner at gmail.com
Thu Oct 1 23:29:01 UTC 2009


On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach <lyz at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Nathan Haines <nhaines at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > Unfortunately, Grant doesn't tailor these announcements and he gives no
> > thought to timing or how these announcements might draw focus away from
> > current activities.
>
> I guess my main problem with this is who decides where the focus is?
> I'll stick with the translations example for now, is the really up to
> the team leaders to determine whether people should be informed about
> a translations push that Jono is doing to all LoCo teams? Maybe it
> feels like to you that it's taking away from, for example, planning
> the upcoming Jams or release parties, but to someone else who hasn't
> been very involved but wants to get into translations it might be a
> great entry point for them to start getting involved, especially if
> they can't make it out to a jam or release party. Furthermore, if
> we're planning Jams and release parties, does this mean we should
> refrain from other discussion on-list because it "draws focus away"?
>
> > Instead, he forwards them along with an FYI, and he
> > does so indiscriminately.  I feel this creates an unfriendly mood to the
> > mailing list.
>
> There is nothing stopping anyone within the team from replying to the
> -contacts forward with a specifically crafted message that engages the
> team more, but frequently people don't have the time or expertise to
> do this in a timely manner. Based on my experience with other teams, I
> think it's more important for the message to get out *at all* rather
> than worrying that it's not specifically targeted directly at the
> team. A lot of teams do this and it works fine for them, I can provide
>
 examples if you'd like.

NC team just forwards them because if we try to hold them until some later
time, people forget and it never gets out.  So we just forward them as is
when they come in and let people on the list decide how they can best use
the information.  If something from the forward needs to be discussed
someone just adds it to the wiki.

>
> > We are not rejecting any emails other than forwards from -contacts, as
> > the approval of his bringing a private email to the list clearly
> > indicates.
>
> I think I'm just troubled by the precedent this sets for the team.
> Today we're not allowed to forward -contacts emails (which are emails
> specifically crafted for sharing, and sent out by the Community
> Manager), what next? How are we supposed to know what is acceptable if
> even these official emails from the Community Manager emails aren't?
>

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