[Ubuntu-US-CA] Privacy, Trademark & Canonical

Fri Nov 8 18:20:49 UTC 2013

Darn phone keyboard: "non-English"
On Nov 8, 2013 10:19 AM, "Peter Sullivan" <petermsull at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also just as a legal aside, Ubuntu is _actually_ a real word in a real
> living language. As such no court in any country on God's Green Earth would
> do more than merely laugh the case out as it has no merit.
> I name a distro 'community' and trademark it (not likely but if I use a no
> my English equivalent) does that mean I own it? Of course not.
> I'm not saying this to be a jerk to Canonical as I have the deepest
> respect; I'm saying this so people don't get unduly cross.
> Trademark a graphic of your own design? Yes.
> Trademark a living (and historical) word & concept? No.
> On Nov 8, 2013 10:09 AM, "nuboon2age" <nuboon2age at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is no way to promote Free (as in freedom) Software. Then again
>> Shuttleworth seems to have lost the narrative thread of Free Software. When
>> the project began he used to talk about promoting Free Software all the
>> time. Now? Not at all.
>>
>> Ubuntu to you,
>>
>> Drew
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>>>    1.  Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (Grant Bowman)
>>>    2. Re:  Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (Troy Ready)
>>>    3. Re:  Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (Jono Bacon)
>>>    4. Re:  Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (C S)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:50:48 -0800
>>> From: Grant Bowman <grantbow at partimus.org>
>>> To: "ubuntu-us-ca at lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-us-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>> Subject: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Privacy, Trademark & Canonical
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>>> wow!
>>>
>>> RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use
>>> trademark law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at
>>> @EFF. https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY
>>>
>>> I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts?
>>>
>>> fyi,
>>> Grant
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>>> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 17:04:21 -0800
>>> From: Troy Ready <troy at troyready.com>
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>>> Doesn't seem that bad to me. I could agree that it's against "the spirit"
>>> of open source, but they've put a ton of time and money into promoting
>>> the
>>> brand of ubuntu and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be wary
>>> of
>>> allowing very negative websites using that branding to go unanswered.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at partimus.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > wow!
>>> >
>>> > RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use
>>> trademark
>>> > law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at @EFF.
>>> > https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY
>>> >
>>> > I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts?
>>> >
>>> > fyi,
>>> > Grant
>>> >
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>>> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 17:07:24 -0800
>>> From: Jono Bacon <jono at ubuntu.com>
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>>> I don't think is trademark law to silence a critic. I think it is
>>> trademark law to protect a trademark.
>>>
>>> Was news to me though and I am checking into it.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Troy Ready <troy at troyready.com> wrote:
>>> > Doesn't seem that bad to me. I could agree that it's against "the
>>> spirit" of
>>> > open source, but they've put a ton of time and money into promoting the
>>> > brand of ubuntu and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be
>>> wary of
>>> > allowing very negative websites using that branding to go unanswered.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at partimus.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> wow!
>>> >>
>>> >> RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use
>>> trademark
>>> >> law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at @EFF.
>>> >> https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY
>>> >>
>>> >> I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts?
>>> >>
>>> >> fyi,
>>> >> Grant
>>> >>
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>>> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 20:08:32 -0800
>>> From: C S <cessanfrancisco at gmail.com>
>>> To: Ubuntu US California <ubuntu-us-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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>>> I can see both sides of the coin on this one.  However, I feel that
>>> Ubuntu should be more transparent about their search/privacy policy and
>>> be upfront with users about having the option to disable the search
>>> function, if so desired.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/07/2013 05:07 PM, Jono Bacon wrote:
>>> > I don't think is trademark law to silence a critic. I think it is
>>> > trademark law to protect a trademark.
>>> >
>>> > Was news to me though and I am checking into it.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Troy Ready <troy at troyready.com> wrote:
>>> >> Doesn't seem that bad to me. I could agree that it's against "the
>>> spirit" of
>>> >> open source, but they've put a ton of time and money into promoting
>>> the
>>> >> brand of ubuntu and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be
>>> wary of
>>> >> allowing very negative websites using that branding to go unanswered.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at partimus.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> wow!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use
>>> trademark
>>> >>> law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at
>>> @EFF.
>>> >>> https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> fyi,
>>> >>> Grant
>>> >>>
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