[Ubuntu Chicago] Ubuntu Chicago Packaging Jam - A Bust

[Richard A. Johnson]

On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jim Campbell wrote:
[...]
| Sorry this wasn't the hottest meeting.  I think there's a couple of things
| we can learn from today's session, though.
|
| - Packaging is tough.  We tried to cover a lot of ground.  Maybe we
| would've done better and felt better with a smaller focus.  Maybe just
| looking at merges or going over set parts of the MOTU documentation -
| letting that lead us.  It's just something to consider for next time.

Told ya it wasn't going to be an easy topic, so that is why I decided that 
doing a merge would be the easiest to start out with, and typically that is 
what an aspiring MOTU would start out with.

| - People's time is valuable.  I think Wally left before we even started
| talking about packaging.  We kind of sat around from 10:00-12:00, and I
| think the projector was working most all of that time.  We can do better, I
| think.  Maybe we dawdled because we weren't sure how to approach the
| massive subject of packaging.  Still, we coulda done better.

The projector was working fine, but the stupid resolution issue was being a 
pain.

| - Let's be more social about our meetings or something.  We didn't
| introduce each other and find out what people wanted from the session.

Reason we didn't introduce each other is because we already know each other. 
It would be tough to see what the crowd would want from such a topic as you 
really have to teach in a specific order as there is just so much behind it.

| I'm not sure if there's anything more for me to say.  Thanks for taking the
| time to go through that stuff today, Richard.  It's complicated stuff.  I
| just read your note and wanted to respond in some way.  I hope that my
| comments are received constructively . . .  I don't mean them in a negative
| manner.

Not negative at all, I am glad you showed up and stuck around, and even 
provided a little humor at one point, which was pretty damn funny. You know 
the bit about CDBS and Debhelper :)  I was kind of annoyed from the get go on 
a couple of different levels.

1) Nobody showed up
2) Eddie slept in and this was his baby
3) The assholes in the back don't shut up for shit. Thankfully Casey has also 
requested we have the podium with microphone from now on. That will get 
someones attention.
4) I seriously don't think Ubuntu Chicago members are all that interested in 
development except for a select few.

Thanks once again to Wally, Jim, and Aaron for taking time out and showing up. 
I apologize Wally for starting off rather late and if you are seriously 
interested in packaging or learning the development side, we could possibly 
meet up some evening or weekend, or break out during a LUG event. The same 
goes with anyone else interested.

And Jim, your comments were not negative at all, they were dead on. Thanks for 
being such a champ.

-- 
Richard A. Johnson
nixternal at kubuntu.org
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