[Ubuntu Chicago] e-ntroduction
Max Luebbe
max.luebbe at gmail.com
Mon Feb 5 17:33:41 GMT 2007
I think that its some solace that deep down, the machines making these
ads and promos are running a BSD derivative and not some closed kernel POS.
In that light, I might be able to live with this compromise. : ]
-Max
Patrick Green wrote:
> I agree that we should be willing to own up to our warts when asked.
>
> I have been thinking about this. I see compromises made all over the
> place. Linux magazines using Macs for templating. If Linspire or
> Novell places an ad in a magazine, it is safe to assume that ad is
> templated into the magazine by the owners of the mag and theylikely
> use a proprietary tool.
>
> Craig runs a mac shop. I can live with that for the promo video as
> long as it is available with zero region coding and mde availale in
> free formats and playable without drm.
>
> Now, that said. We are looking at a 15 to 20 minute teaser piece.
> What if we tok the raw footge and continue our own project. We make
> more footage and helpful videos. We create a video section of the
> wiki and do our own editing. Yeah, it will be tough and painstakingly
> arduous, but we could make sure that the developers of whatever
> project we use know our trials and report any bugs in the hopes that
> the tool gets improved.
>
> On 2/5/07, *Chad Sutton* <chadarius at gmail.com
> <mailto:chadarius at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Max Luebbe wrote:
>> Just a thought.
>> Aren't we working against our own intentions though if we have to farm
>> out the production work to a windows machine running premiere or mac box
>> running final cut?
>>
>> I'd be nice to make a documentary about linux using linux to edit and
>>
>> put the piece together, in the spirit of bug #1.
>>
>> Also. I used to work for a cable station. Let me know if you need help
>> shooting or with post production, I'm pretty solid at both.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick Green wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I showed him Revolution OS and he winced and said it was a good
>>> student documentary. I've seen his work and have worked with him.
>>> Not in film, but in theater. He and I and a guy in Woodstock are old
>>>
>>> theater hacks. Basically, his gig is he will get a chance to showcase
>>> some young talent and give them something to put on a resume and he'll
>>> have his production name in the credits...so free pub. He helps alot
>>>
>>> of young talent find work. He coaches for free, helps them with head
>>> shots, and will help them get auditions for commercials and stage
>>> productions. He's got a good heart.
>>>
>>> As far as the Chicago group. Yes, you guys are the foundation and
>>>
>>> need to be featured. He usually does narrative voice overs, but I
>>> suspect he would use one or two actors as hosts or users needing to be
>>> guided in the way of Linux.
>>>
>>> I will be honest, I am relatively new to Ubuntu, though I've been
>>>
>>> using Linux exclusively since 2002. (more to come on that later).
>>> Where we could use help in this project. I think some of you could be
>>> proof readers of the script and ensure it is reflecting the proper
>>>
>>> spirit of Ubuntu and that it is accurate. He prefers to shoot on site
>>> and he is used to paying for those sites, so we may have to get after
>>> hours access to offices with cubicles and stuff like that. We would
>>>
>>> also need people who are not camera shy.
>>>
>>> One thing he envisions is a green screen where a narrator...an
>>> attractive woman is standing in the desktop much like a weather person
>>> giving a desktop tour.
>>>
>>>
>>> Heck, if anyone here wants to meet with him and I over wings and beers
>>> and feed him information, that would be cool.
>>>
>>> I had to leverage favors to get this done. He does this for me and I
>>> get him some free assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Heck, we could start a new thread on brainstorming ideas and I could
>>> pass it on to him. Professional production quality is important.
>>> Soundtrack..even for a 15-20 minute piece is important to set the
>>>
>>> tone. But really...we want it to be consumer oriented...something
>>> that would make the non Linux user think...hmmm...I want that.
>>> So...what would be important to include? What is important about
>>> Ubuntu and what is important about Ubuntu Chicago?
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, I am the new kid here, so anyone who wants to contact me to
>>> ensure I am on the up and up and blah blah blah, feel free to write me
>>> off the mail list and I will give you my contact info.
>>>
>>> Craig (the production guy) and I are involved in a stage play right
>>>
>>> now and will be committed until early April so we could get into
>>> earnest then. Basically it works this way.
>>>
>>> Draw script...film for a day or two or three. Edit..re edit...edit
>>> again...re edit the re edit....kill small farm animals...edit. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/2/07, * RJ Marsan* <rjmarsan at gmail.com <mailto:rjmarsan at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> <mailto:rjmarsan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> woot. seriously thats awesome.
>>>
>>> On 2/2/07, *Rich Johnson* <
>>> nixternal at ubuntu.com <mailto:nixternal at ubuntu.com>
>>> <mailto:nixternal at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday 02 February 2007, Patrick Green wrote:
>>>
>>> | Well, on a lark I called an old friend of mine.
>>> |
>>> | He lives in the same town I do and he owns a production
>>> company. He
>>> | writes, films, casts, and directs commercials and high end
>>>
>>> promotional
>>> | DVD's (for time shares, real estate for the rich and
>>> famous.) A 15 minute
>>> | promotional film is usually in the neighborhood of 15-30
>>> grand. He is
>>>
>>> | willing to do one for Ubuntu Chicago with his writing,
>>> editing, and actors
>>> | at no charge.
>>> |
>>> | I will be sitting down with him soon to give him some info
>>> on what linux
>>>
>>> | is, what open source is, and what makes Ubuntu special.
>>> |
>>> | What this would give us is a movie we could have streaming
>>> on the wiki and
>>> | even burn onto a DVD quality disk suited for you tv at home.
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, I caught my breath after reading this. This is amazing and
>>> we (Ubuntu)
>>> would be so greatfull for such an opportunity.
>>>
>>> I am available to help out as much as needed. I have no
>>>
>>> problem using his own
>>> actors, but would be interested to know if possible some of
>>> the "real" Ubuntu
>>> users (some of the Chicago members) had a cameo appearance?
>>>
>>>
>>> I can promise him that I will get his name out to about 8
>>> million people with
>>> 1 single post. Those are the 8 million users who read my blog,
>>> the Fridge,
>>> and other sites as well. Plus this will also target those who
>>>
>>> aren't using
>>> Ubuntu YET. This will get a Digg I am sure, and I can
>>> guarantee a news spot
>>> on Google as well. If you have more information about your
>>> friend and if he
>>>
>>> is interested, I would love to promote him and his work. I
>>> would like to see
>>> some of his previous work, which I am sure is good.
>>>
>>> Patrick, we (Ubuntu community) really appreciate your recent
>>>
>>> activity,
>>> interest, and knowledge. I am an Executive Marketing and
>>> Business Management
>>> major myself and enjoy this part of "work" more than any
>>> other. It seems you
>>>
>>> have the field experience that I am interested in and if ever
>>> the chance came
>>> about, I would love to pick your brain apart. Of course I will
>>> format the
>>> Windows partition up there if there is one :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again Patrick and if there is anything you need, please
>>> do not hesitate
>>> to email me or the group.
>>>
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>>
> I think that if at all possible it would be great to say the video
> was created solely with Linux. My experience with video editing in
> Linux has been less than stellar however, but Its been a while
> since I've tried it. I think I'll try and play around a bit with
> it this week and see whether I still want to gouge my own eyes out
> with the current Linux video editing packages.
>
> The other side to this discussion is that for us to try and
> refrain from looking like deranged free software lunatics to the
> non-Linux people we are trying to recruit. If Linux doesn't edit
> video well then we should just own up to that just like we should
> to anything lacking in Linux. What we can highlight is that over
> time all of these issues will be addressed with incredible free
> and open source software.
>
> People just want their computers to do that they need as simply
> and as cheaply as possible. Its about value. I take pride in what
> I can create in Linux or open source applications that are useful
> and provide value and savings. If we can show that in the creation
> of the video itself then that is a huge plus.
>
> --
> Later,
> Chad Sutton
> csutton at chadarius.com <mailto:csutton at chadarius.com>
> http://chadarius.com
> http://stephandchadsutton.com
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