[Ubuntu Chicago] e-ntroduction

Max Luebbe max.luebbe at gmail.com
Mon Feb 5 17:33:41 GMT 2007


I think that its some solace that deep down, the machines making these 
ads and promos are running a BSD derivative and not some closed kernel POS.

In that light, I might be able to live with this compromise.     : ]

-Max

Patrick Green wrote:
> I agree that we should be willing to own up to our warts when asked.
>
> I have been thinking about this.  I see compromises made all over the 
> place.  Linux magazines using Macs for templating.  If Linspire or 
> Novell places an ad in a magazine, it is safe to assume that ad is 
> templated into the magazine by the owners of the mag and theylikely 
> use a proprietary tool.
>
> Craig runs a mac shop.  I can live with that for the promo video as 
> long as it is available with zero region coding and mde availale in 
> free formats and playable without drm. 
>
> Now, that said.  We are looking at a 15 to 20 minute teaser piece.  
> What if we tok the raw footge and continue our own project.  We make 
> more footage and helpful videos.  We create a video section of the 
> wiki and do our own editing.  Yeah, it will be tough and painstakingly 
> arduous, but we could make sure that the developers of whatever 
> project we use know our trials and report any bugs in the hopes that 
> the tool gets improved. 
>
> On 2/5/07, *Chad Sutton* <chadarius at gmail.com 
> <mailto:chadarius at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Max Luebbe wrote:
>>     Just a thought.
>>     Aren't we working against our own intentions though if we have to farm 
>>     out the production work to a windows machine running premiere or mac box 
>>     running final cut?
>>
>>     I'd be nice to make a documentary about linux using linux to edit and 
>>
>>     put the piece together, in the spirit of bug #1.
>>
>>     Also. I used to work for a cable station. Let me know if you need help 
>>     shooting or with post production, I'm pretty solid at both.
>>
>>     -Max
>>
>>
>>
>>     Patrick Green wrote:
>>       
>>>     Well, I showed him Revolution OS and he winced and said it was a good 
>>>     student documentary.  I've seen his work and have worked with him.  
>>>     Not in film, but in theater.  He and I and a guy in Woodstock are old 
>>>
>>>     theater hacks.  Basically, his gig is he will get a chance to showcase 
>>>     some young talent and give them something to put on a resume and he'll 
>>>     have his production name in the credits...so free pub.  He helps alot 
>>>
>>>     of young talent find work.  He coaches for free, helps them with head 
>>>     shots, and will help them get auditions for commercials and stage 
>>>     productions.  He's got a good heart.
>>>
>>>     As far as the Chicago group.  Yes, you guys are the foundation and 
>>>
>>>     need to be featured.  He usually does narrative voice overs, but I 
>>>     suspect he would use one or two actors as hosts or users needing to be 
>>>     guided in the way of Linux. 
>>>
>>>     I will be honest, I am relatively new to Ubuntu, though I've been 
>>>
>>>     using Linux exclusively since  2002. (more to come on that later).  
>>>     Where we could use help in this project.  I think some of you could be 
>>>     proof readers of the script and ensure it is reflecting the proper 
>>>
>>>     spirit of Ubuntu and that it is accurate.  He prefers to shoot on site 
>>>     and he is used to paying for those sites, so we may have to get after 
>>>     hours access to offices with cubicles and stuff like that.  We would 
>>>
>>>     also need people who are not camera shy.
>>>
>>>     One thing he envisions is a green screen where a narrator...an 
>>>     attractive woman is standing in the desktop much like a weather person 
>>>     giving a desktop tour. 
>>>
>>>
>>>     Heck, if anyone here wants to meet with him and I over wings and beers 
>>>     and feed him information, that would be cool. 
>>>
>>>     I had to leverage favors to get this done.  He does this for me and I 
>>>     get him some free assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Heck, we could start a new thread on brainstorming ideas and I could 
>>>     pass it on to him.  Professional production quality is important.  
>>>     Soundtrack..even for a 15-20 minute piece is important to set the 
>>>
>>>     tone.  But really...we want it to be consumer oriented...something 
>>>     that would make the non Linux user think...hmmm...I want that.  
>>>     So...what would be important to include?  What is important about 
>>>     Ubuntu and what is important about Ubuntu Chicago?
>>>
>>>
>>>     BTW, I am the new kid here, so anyone who wants to contact me to 
>>>     ensure I am on the up and up and blah blah blah, feel free to write me 
>>>     off the mail list and I will give you my contact info.
>>>
>>>     Craig (the production guy) and I are involved in a stage play right 
>>>
>>>     now and will be committed until early April so we could get into 
>>>     earnest then.  Basically it works this way.
>>>
>>>     Draw script...film for a day or two or three. Edit..re edit...edit 
>>>     again...re edit the re edit....kill small farm animals...edit.  ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>     Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 2/2/07, * RJ Marsan* <rjmarsan at gmail.com <mailto:rjmarsan at gmail.com> 
>>>
>>>     <mailto:rjmarsan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         woot. seriously thats awesome.
>>>
>>>         On 2/2/07, *Rich Johnson* < 
>>>     nixternal at ubuntu.com <mailto:nixternal at ubuntu.com>
>>>         <mailto:nixternal at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             On Friday 02 February 2007, Patrick Green wrote:
>>>
>>>             | Well, on a lark I called an old friend of mine.
>>>             |
>>>             | He lives in the same town I do and he owns a production
>>>             company.  He
>>>             | writes, films, casts, and directs commercials and high end
>>>
>>>             promotional
>>>             | DVD's (for time shares, real estate for the rich and
>>>             famous.)  A 15 minute
>>>             | promotional film is usually in the neighborhood of 15-30
>>>             grand.  He is
>>>
>>>             | willing to do one for Ubuntu Chicago with his writing,
>>>             editing, and actors
>>>             | at no charge.
>>>             |
>>>             | I will be sitting down with him soon to give him some info
>>>             on what linux
>>>
>>>             | is, what open source is, and what makes Ubuntu special.
>>>             |
>>>             | What this would give us is a movie we could have streaming
>>>             on the wiki and
>>>             | even burn onto a DVD quality disk suited for you tv at home.
>>>
>>>
>>>             OK, I caught my breath after reading this. This is amazing and
>>>             we (Ubuntu)
>>>             would be so greatfull for such an opportunity.
>>>
>>>             I am available to help out as much as needed. I have no
>>>
>>>             problem using his own
>>>             actors, but would be interested to know if possible some of
>>>             the "real" Ubuntu
>>>             users (some of the Chicago members) had a cameo appearance?
>>>
>>>
>>>             I can promise him that I will get his name out to about 8
>>>             million people with
>>>             1 single post. Those are the 8 million users who read my blog,
>>>             the Fridge,
>>>             and other sites as well. Plus this will also target those who
>>>
>>>             aren't using
>>>             Ubuntu YET. This will get a Digg I am sure, and I can
>>>             guarantee a news spot
>>>             on Google as well. If you have more information about your
>>>             friend and if he
>>>
>>>             is interested, I would love to promote him and his work. I
>>>             would like to see
>>>             some of his previous work, which I am sure is good.
>>>
>>>             Patrick, we (Ubuntu community) really appreciate your recent
>>>
>>>             activity,
>>>             interest, and knowledge. I am an Executive Marketing and
>>>             Business Management
>>>             major myself and enjoy this part of "work" more than any
>>>             other. It seems you
>>>
>>>             have the field experience that I am interested in and if ever
>>>             the chance came
>>>             about, I would love to pick your brain apart. Of course I will
>>>             format the
>>>             Windows partition up there if there is one :)
>>>
>>>
>>>             Thanks again Patrick and if there is anything you need, please
>>>             do not hesitate
>>>             to email me or the group.
>>>
>>>             --
>>>             Rich Johnson
>>>             
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>>       
>     I think that if at all possible it would be great to say the video
>     was created solely with Linux. My experience with video editing in
>     Linux has been less than stellar however, but Its been a while
>     since I've tried it. I think I'll try and play around a bit with
>     it this week and see whether I still want to gouge my own eyes out
>     with the current Linux video editing packages.
>
>     The other side to this discussion is that for us to try and
>     refrain from looking like deranged free software lunatics to the
>     non-Linux people we are trying to recruit. If Linux doesn't edit
>     video well then we should just own up to that just like we should
>     to anything lacking in Linux. What we can highlight is that over
>     time all of these issues will be addressed with incredible free
>     and open source software.
>
>     People just want their computers to do that they need as simply
>     and as cheaply as possible. Its about value. I take pride in what
>     I can create in Linux or open source applications that are useful
>     and provide value and savings. If we can show that in the creation
>     of the video itself then that is a huge plus.
>
>     -- 
>     Later,
>     Chad Sutton
>     csutton at chadarius.com <mailto:csutton at chadarius.com>
>     http://chadarius.com
>     http://stephandchadsutton.com
>
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