[CoLoCo] new t-shirt / help idea

Thu Oct 11 20:30:40 BST 2007

Let me offer my support. If we are serious about this endeavor, I offer to
install/configure/maintain a drupal <http://drupal.org/> CMS. I can also
register a domain and host if need be, although my server is *gasp* red hat
:) (I'm looking at migrating to ubuntu server though :)

Alex

On 10/11/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
>
> The other tech support idea is still in the works. It should happen
> eventually. This idea is more of a "I'm a computer geek and will help
> you for free if you want to dump MS and go to Ubuntu" kind of idea. I
> don't really envision it being a team thing other than that we support
> the idea and will put up a single point of contact on the web for shy
> people to visit. Maybe we put our email address too and the area we
> are in so people who are interested can contact us. If they don't ask
> you when they see you they will need some way to contact someone.
>
> Maybe this should be a discussion at the next meeting.
>
> Jim
>
> On 10/11/07, Dave Vanderploeg <dave.vanderploeg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I wouldn't say your heading down the wrong road but we've talked about
> doing
> > this "free tech support for Linux" idea before and nothing ever
> > materialized.
> >
> > I think what we need is a tech support group within the LoCo, complete
> with
> > a lead who intends to do all the organization for this group. We need to
> > find someone who want to step up and be in charge of this project. I
> think
> > until we have a volunteer to run show, nothing will really get done.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I like the freeyourcomputer.whatever url.  Anyone else have
> > > suggestions for a catchy, easy-to-remember URL that could be placed on
> > > the shirt?  If people like this idea, I wouldn't mind pursuing it and
> > > putting something nice together on the web (it's how I make my
> > > living...).  It would be nice to tie it in as a sister site to the
> > > CoLoCo site possibly.
> > >
> > > Do people feel that this idea is worth looking further at?  Am I
> > > heading down the wrong road here, or is this idea heading in a
> > > separate direction from the scope of CoLoCo?   I would love to hear
> > > feedback from others; it seems as though this thread sort of died once
> > > I threw my 2-cents into the mix.
> > >
> > > There is a company located in Fort Collins (can't recall their name at
> > > the moment) that screen prints on really nice organic cotton shirts.
> > > After speaking with them at the Sustainable Living Fair in September,
> > > I recall that their prices seemed pretty reasonable.  I have been
> > > thinking for some time now about creating some Ubuntu shirts; donating
> > > the profits to Canonical would be one way to give back to the folks
> > > who have done so much for those of us who very much appreciate both
> > > Ubuntu as well as the community behind the project.  I like the idea
> > > of advertising Ubuntu as well as advertising "computing freedom", and
> > > it would be great to give people a tool to seek out more information.
> > >
> > > Do people feel that this idea is worth pursuing?
> > >
> > > - Darrin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/10/07, Brandan E. Lloyd < coloco-ubuntu at thelloyds.net> wrote:
> > > > Good idea.  I checked register.com and the following domains are
> > available:
> > > > freeyourcomputer.net
> > > > freeyourcomputer.org
> > > > freeyourcomputer.info
> > > >
> > > > Brandan
> > > >
> > > > On 10/10/07, Darrin Goodman < darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I think that the shirt idea would be a great tool for advertising!
> > > > >
> > > > > However, it has been my experience that people who are new to
> > > > > something don't always like to ask questions to a live person; it
> can
> > > > > be somewhat intimidating, especially when talking about computers.
> > > > > The Ubuntu shirt is a great idea as an advertising mechanism, but
> > > > > along with the Ubuntu logo, it would be great to have a simple and
> > > > > easy-to-remember URL listed on the shirt.  That way, when someone
> sees
> > > > > the shirt and wants to learn more, they will hopefully go to the
> > > > > website.  Plus, you might not always have a flier on hand and it
> would
> > > > > be great to point folks to further resources.
> > > > >
> > > > > Function of the website:
> > > > > - main page expresses in simple terms how the road to open source
> /
> > > > > Linux / Ubuntu will benefit them
> > > > > - provides information on how to get started
> > > > > - links to valuable Ubuntu / general Linux resources, such as
> > UbuntuScreencasts
> > > > > - lists upcoming events, such as install-fests
> > > > > - allows the user to express interest in having an install-fest
> take
> > > > > place in their region (if there is enough interest, it might be
> worth
> > > > > taking the time to set up an install-fest in more remote parts of
> the
> > > > > state)
> > > > >
> > > > > A great way to help more than just one person is at an
> install-fest.
> > > > > Time is rather valuable, and if you can help more than one person
> at a
> > > > > time, that's time better spent.  For prospective Linux / Ubuntu
> > > > > converts, I am not so sure if they have any idea that
> install-fests
> > > > > take place or even what one is, so if we can get the word
> out...  The
> > > > > shirt idea might really work well. Something like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > [Ubuntu Logo]
> > > > > Free your computer!  Ask me how.
> > > > > www.colorado-ubuntu.net [or some other easy to remember URL]
> > > > >
> > > > > I could be way off base here, but it seems like the shirt could a
> > > > > simple tool that would point people to a resource of information
> -- a
> > > > > simple website where they could find out about *why open source*,
> *why
> > > > > Ubuntu* and *how to get started*.  The
> http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org
> > > > > website is a great website and seems to be useful for people who
> are
> > > > > already dialed into Ubuntu, but for the bare-bones beginner, I'm
> not
> > > > > sure if it effectively addresses the "why" and "how" questions (or
> at
> > > > > least I did not see anything like that on the site -- I mean no
> > > > > disrespect to the maintainers of this website).
> > > > >
> > > > > There is already a lot of information out on the web, but if we
> are
> > > > > looking to address Joe Colorado and plug CoLoCo, this might be a
> good
> > > > > way to do it as well as consolidate information for the newcomers.
> > > > > This is only my 2-cents worth.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Darrin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/10/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org > wrote:
> > > > > > Based on the discussion, I propose a new shirt project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone willing to be a billboard can order a shirt and wear it
> with
> > > > > > pride anywhere they wish. We should order some brochures (maybe
> from
> > > > > > system76) that explain Ubuntu and what we are willing to offer.
> I
> > > > > > suggest we offer to introduce interested people to Ubuntu on our
> own
> > > > > > equipment and then if they are interested helping them set up a
> dual
> > > > > > boot. We should also be prepared to back up their files if they
> > can't.
> > > > > > Each person can decide for themselves how they want to approach
> each
> > > > > > situation. The brochure should spell out the risks and make
> clear
> > the
> > > > > > need to backup. If you get any bites while fishing with your
> shirt
> > you
> > > > > > give them the brochure and a link to our website or mail list.
> They
> > > > > > can ask questions and if they decide the way to try whoever was
> > their
> > > > > > point of contact can help them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know if there are any legal issues to worry about. If
> > someone
> > > > > > asks you to install something and there is an error I don't know
> if
> > > > > > they can try to sue you or not. I'd say probably not -
> especially if
> > > > > > you outlined the risks. However, it might be worthwhile to have
> a
> > > > > > short document that says you are a volunteer and helping at
> their
> > > > > > request. It outlines the process and risks and they sign it. I'm
> > sure
> > > > > > it's minimal protection but if they try to sue you I think most
> > judges
> > > > > > would be inclined to say tough luck to the individual if you
> have
> > > > > > their consent in writing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll see if I can get something drafted. I have access to a
> lawyer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/7/07, Alex Comer <alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > done
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/7/07, David Overcash <funnylookinhat at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Yeah... we do provide that.  go ahead and change it.   : )
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Slightly off topic, but I was over at
> > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList and noticed
> > that our
> > > > > > > team does not have a YES under the column " Provides Local
> > Support" as many
> > > > > > > others do. I'm thinking thats not correct? Or am I
> misinterpreting
> > that
> > > > > > > table?
> > > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Well, if there is interest I'll be Mr. Shirt Guy again.
> > However, the
> > > > > > > > > > company I used before doesn't do silk screening and I
> think
> > that's
> > > > > > > > > > what we'd want for the text on the back.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, David Overcash < funnylookinhat at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I would definitely be willing to do that.  Heck, it'd
> be a
> > great
> > > > > > > thing to
> > > > > > > > > > > wear to our hopeful activities planned around the DNC
> next
> > summer.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not suggesting any particular version. I'm only
> > asking would
> > > > > > > > > > > > something like t-shirt advertising be something
> worth
> > looking
> > > > > > > into? If
> > > > > > > > > > > > someone asks and you say I'll help you by installing
> > Ubuntu
> > > > > > > (probably
> > > > > > > > > > > > dual boot) you will decide at that time what's best.
> My
> > guess is
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > we would want to install the latest edition. LTS
> isn't
> > overly
> > > > > > > > > > > > important on the desktop. How many of us are still
> > running dapper
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > even edgy. By the end of the month most of us will
> be on
> > Gutsy.
> > > > > > > Many
> > > > > > > > > > > > already are.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What I'm asking is how willing would members be to
> walk
> > around
> > > > > > > town
> > > > > > > > > > > > with big letters on your back saying "free computer
> > help" or
> > > > > > > similar?
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think we would find a few willing converts from
> time
> > to time.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Collins Richey < crichey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umm, maybe I'm off the mark here, but, was the
> point
> > that
> > > > > > > Collins
> > > > > > > > > > > Richey was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > making:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. LTS (hence "free support") is not really
> included
> > with
> > > > > > > Gutsy, but
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'd really want to promote Gutsy cause its
> better
> > than
> > > > > > > 6.06LTS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or was it really that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. memorex cds marked with sharpie seem too
> amateur
> > and he'd
> > > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > distribute officially printed cds since they are
> > more
> > > > > > > professional
> > > > > > > > > > > visually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, both. The LTS edition is a bit too dated
> for
> > many
> > > > > > > new/old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > laptops, and yeah I love the professional quality
> > covers for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > officially pressed disks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > My laptop is pretty long in the tooth, but I
> couldn't
> > get
> > > > > > > wireless to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > work well until Gutsy came along.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Collins Richey
> > > > > > > > > > > > >      If you fill your heart with regrets of
> yesterday
> > and the
> > > > > > > worries
> > > > > > > > > > > > >      of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful
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