[CoLoCo] new t-shirt / help idea
Dave Vanderploeg
dave.vanderploeg at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 21:08:08 BST 2007
@ the release party AFAIK
Dave
On Oct 11, 2007, at 1:53 PM, "Alex Comer" <alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> When is this "next meeting" ?
> Alex
>
> On 10/11/07, Dave Vanderploeg <dave.vanderploeg at gmail.com > wrote:
> Let's talk about this at the next meeting for sure. I'm not sure why
> you would separate this from the other idea, since they'd fit
> together so well.
>
> Dave.
>
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 1:30 PM, "Alex Comer" < alex at platinumcode.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Let me offer my support. If we are serious about this endeavor, I
>> offer to install/configure/maintain a drupal CMS. I can also
>> register a domain and host if need be, although my server is *gasp*
>> red hat :) (I'm looking at migrating to ubuntu server though :)
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/07, Jim Hutchinson < jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
>> The other tech support idea is still in the works. It should happen
>> eventually. This idea is more of a "I'm a computer geek and will help
>> you for free if you want to dump MS and go to Ubuntu" kind of idea. I
>> don't really envision it being a team thing other than that we
>> support
>> the idea and will put up a single point of contact on the web for shy
>> people to visit. Maybe we put our email address too and the area we
>> are in so people who are interested can contact us. If they don't ask
>> you when they see you they will need some way to contact someone.
>>
>> Maybe this should be a discussion at the next meeting.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On 10/11/07, Dave Vanderploeg < dave.vanderploeg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I wouldn't say your heading down the wrong road but we've talked
>> about doing
>> > this "free tech support for Linux" idea before and nothing ever
>> > materialized.
>> >
>> > I think what we need is a tech support group within the LoCo,
>> complete with
>> > a lead who intends to do all the organization for this group. We
>> need to
>> > find someone who want to step up and be in charge of this
>> project. I think
>> > until we have a volunteer to run show, nothing will really get
>> done.
>> >
>> > Dave.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman < darrin.goodman at gmail.com > wrote:
>> > > I like the freeyourcomputer.whatever url. Anyone else have
>> > > suggestions for a catchy, easy-to-remember URL that could be
>> placed on
>> > > the shirt? If people like this idea, I wouldn't mind pursuing
>> it and
>> > > putting something nice together on the web (it's how I make my
>> > > living...). It would be nice to tie it in as a sister site to
>> the
>> > > CoLoCo site possibly.
>> > >
>> > > Do people feel that this idea is worth looking further at? Am I
>> > > heading down the wrong road here, or is this idea heading in a
>> > > separate direction from the scope of CoLoCo? I would love to
>> hear
>> > > feedback from others; it seems as though this thread sort of
>> died once
>> > > I threw my 2-cents into the mix.
>> > >
>> > > There is a company located in Fort Collins (can't recall their
>> name at
>> > > the moment) that screen prints on really nice organic cotton
>> shirts.
>> > > After speaking with them at the Sustainable Living Fair in
>> September,
>> > > I recall that their prices seemed pretty reasonable. I have been
>> > > thinking for some time now about creating some Ubuntu shirts;
>> donating
>> > > the profits to Canonical would be one way to give back to the
>> folks
>> > > who have done so much for those of us who very much appreciate
>> both
>> > > Ubuntu as well as the community behind the project. I like the
>> idea
>> > > of advertising Ubuntu as well as advertising "computing
>> freedom", and
>> > > it would be great to give people a tool to seek out more
>> information.
>> > >
>> > > Do people feel that this idea is worth pursuing?
>> > >
>> > > - Darrin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 10/10/07, Brandan E. Lloyd < coloco-ubuntu at thelloyds.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > > Good idea. I checked register.com and the following domains
>> are
>> > available:
>> > > > freeyourcomputer.net
>> > > > freeyourcomputer.org
>> > > > freeyourcomputer.info
>> > > >
>> > > > Brandan
>> > > >
>> > > > On 10/10/07, Darrin Goodman < darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > I think that the shirt idea would be a great tool for
>> advertising!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > However, it has been my experience that people who are new to
>> > > > > something don't always like to ask questions to a live
>> person; it can
>> > > > > be somewhat intimidating, especially when talking about
>> computers.
>> > > > > The Ubuntu shirt is a great idea as an advertising
>> mechanism, but
>> > > > > along with the Ubuntu logo, it would be great to have a
>> simple and
>> > > > > easy-to-remember URL listed on the shirt. That way, when
>> someone sees
>> > > > > the shirt and wants to learn more, they will hopefully go
>> to the
>> > > > > website. Plus, you might not always have a flier on hand
>> and it would
>> > > > > be great to point folks to further resources.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Function of the website:
>> > > > > - main page expresses in simple terms how the road to open
>> source /
>> > > > > Linux / Ubuntu will benefit them
>> > > > > - provides information on how to get started
>> > > > > - links to valuable Ubuntu / general Linux resources, such as
>> > UbuntuScreencasts
>> > > > > - lists upcoming events, such as install-fests
>> > > > > - allows the user to express interest in having an install-
>> fest take
>> > > > > place in their region (if there is enough interest, it
>> might be worth
>> > > > > taking the time to set up an install-fest in more remote
>> parts of the
>> > > > > state)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > A great way to help more than just one person is at an
>> install-fest.
>> > > > > Time is rather valuable, and if you can help more than one
>> person at a
>> > > > > time, that's time better spent. For prospective Linux /
>> Ubuntu
>> > > > > converts, I am not so sure if they have any idea that
>> install-fests
>> > > > > take place or even what one is, so if we can get the word
>> out... The
>> > > > > shirt idea might really work well. Something like this:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [Ubuntu Logo]
>> > > > > Free your computer! Ask me how.
>> > > > > www.colorado-ubuntu.net [or some other easy to remember URL]
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I could be way off base here, but it seems like the shirt
>> could a
>> > > > > simple tool that would point people to a resource of
>> information -- a
>> > > > > simple website where they could find out about *why open
>> source*, *why
>> > > > > Ubuntu* and *how to get started*. The http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org
>> > > > > website is a great website and seems to be useful for
>> people who are
>> > > > > already dialed into Ubuntu, but for the bare-bones
>> beginner, I'm not
>> > > > > sure if it effectively addresses the "why" and "how"
>> questions (or at
>> > > > > least I did not see anything like that on the site -- I
>> mean no
>> > > > > disrespect to the maintainers of this website).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There is already a lot of information out on the web, but
>> if we are
>> > > > > looking to address Joe Colorado and plug CoLoCo, this might
>> be a good
>> > > > > way to do it as well as consolidate information for the
>> newcomers.
>> > > > > This is only my 2-cents worth.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Darrin
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 10/10/07, Jim Hutchinson < jim at ubuntu-rocks.org > wrote:
>> > > > > > Based on the discussion, I propose a new shirt project.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Anyone willing to be a billboard can order a shirt and
>> wear it with
>> > > > > > pride anywhere they wish. We should order some brochures
>> (maybe from
>> > > > > > system76) that explain Ubuntu and what we are willing to
>> offer. I
>> > > > > > suggest we offer to introduce interested people to Ubuntu
>> on our own
>> > > > > > equipment and then if they are interested helping them
>> set up a dual
>> > > > > > boot. We should also be prepared to back up their files
>> if they
>> > can't.
>> > > > > > Each person can decide for themselves how they want to
>> approach each
>> > > > > > situation. The brochure should spell out the risks and
>> make clear
>> > the
>> > > > > > need to backup. If you get any bites while fishing with
>> your shirt
>> > you
>> > > > > > give them the brochure and a link to our website or mail
>> list. They
>> > > > > > can ask questions and if they decide the way to try
>> whoever was
>> > their
>> > > > > > point of contact can help them.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I don't know if there are any legal issues to worry
>> about. If
>> > someone
>> > > > > > asks you to install something and there is an error I
>> don't know if
>> > > > > > they can try to sue you or not. I'd say probably not -
>> especially if
>> > > > > > you outlined the risks. However, it might be worthwhile
>> to have a
>> > > > > > short document that says you are a volunteer and helping
>> at their
>> > > > > > request. It outlines the process and risks and they sign
>> it. I'm
>> > sure
>> > > > > > it's minimal protection but if they try to sue you I
>> think most
>> > judges
>> > > > > > would be inclined to say tough luck to the individual if
>> you have
>> > > > > > their consent in writing.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'll see if I can get something drafted. I have access to
>> a lawyer.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Any thoughts?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Jim
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 10/7/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > done
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On 10/7/07, David Overcash < funnylookinhat at gmail.com >
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > Yeah... we do provide that. go ahead and change
>> it. : )
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > Slightly off topic, but I was over at
>> > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList and noticed
>> > that our
>> > > > > > > team does not have a YES under the column " Provides
>> Local
>> > Support" as many
>> > > > > > > others do. I'm thinking thats not correct? Or am I
>> misinterpreting
>> > that
>> > > > > > > table?
>> > > > > > > > > Alex
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson < jim at ubuntu-rocks.org >
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > Well, if there is interest I'll be Mr. Shirt Guy
>> again.
>> > However, the
>> > > > > > > > > > company I used before doesn't do silk screening
>> and I think
>> > that's
>> > > > > > > > > > what we'd want for the text on the back.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, David Overcash < funnylookinhat at gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > I would definitely be willing to do that.
>> Heck, it'd be a
>> > great
>> > > > > > > thing to
>> > > > > > > > > > > wear to our hopeful activities planned around
>> the DNC next
>> > summer.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > -David
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson < jim at ubuntu-
>> rocks.org> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not suggesting any particular version.
>> I'm only
>> > asking would
>> > > > > > > > > > > > something like t-shirt advertising be
>> something worth
>> > looking
>> > > > > > > into? If
>> > > > > > > > > > > > someone asks and you say I'll help you by
>> installing
>> > Ubuntu
>> > > > > > > (probably
>> > > > > > > > > > > > dual boot) you will decide at that time
>> what's best. My
>> > guess is
>> > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > > > > we would want to install the latest edition.
>> LTS isn't
>> > overly
>> > > > > > > > > > > > important on the desktop. How many of us are
>> still
>> > running dapper
>> > > > > > > or
>> > > > > > > > > > > > even edgy. By the end of the month most of us
>> will be on
>> > Gutsy.
>> > > > > > > Many
>> > > > > > > > > > > > already are.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > What I'm asking is how willing would members
>> be to walk
>> > around
>> > > > > > > town
>> > > > > > > > > > > > with big letters on your back saying "free
>> computer
>> > help" or
>> > > > > > > similar?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I think we would find a few willing converts
>> from time
>> > to time.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Jim
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Collins Richey <
>> crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umm, maybe I'm off the mark here, but,
>> was the point
>> > that
>> > > > > > > Collins
>> > > > > > > > > > > Richey was
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > making:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. LTS (hence "free support") is not
>> really included
>> > with
>> > > > > > > Gutsy, but
>> > > > > > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'd really want to promote Gutsy cause
>> its better
>> > than
>> > > > > > > 6.06LTS
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or was it really that
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. memorex cds marked with sharpie seem
>> too amateur
>> > and he'd
>> > > > > > > rather
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > distribute officially printed cds since
>> they are
>> > more
>> > > > > > > professional
>> > > > > > > > > > > visually
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, both. The LTS edition is a bit
>> too dated for
>> > many
>> > > > > > > new/old
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > laptops, and yeah I love the professional
>> quality
>> > covers for the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > officially pressed disks.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > My laptop is pretty long in the tooth, but
>> I couldn't
>> > get
>> > > > > > > wireless to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > work well until Gutsy came along.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Collins Richey
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you fill your heart with regrets of
>> yesterday
>> > and the
>> > > > > > > worries
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > of tomorrow, you have no today to be
>> thankful
>> > for.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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