[CoLoCo] new t-shirt / help idea
Neal McBurnett
neal at bcn.boulder.co.us
Thu Oct 11 22:16:49 BST 2007
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 02:50:32PM -0600, Alex Comer wrote:
> I second Jim's nomination to be the lead who intends to do all the organization
> for this tech support group within the LoCo.
Thanks! I do suggest that liability needs to be addressed and may be
sticky. See if there are good disclaimer statements from installfest
organizers....
> Futhermore, I vote for the formation of a small web group within our ubuntu
> group to tackle the web end of this problem, since it sounds like a few folks
> have an interest. So far, I'm hearing that currently Darrin, myself, Phillip?
> others?
>
> My company leases a dedicated Linux server which runs a handful of web sites.
> I'll be happy to donate the hosting and domain registration if need be. This
> sounds like an interesting project to me, I say we roll with it while we have
> momentum! Can we get consensus on a domain name?
If we're really doing tshirts I think we should stick with a site that
will be around a long time, maybe with a catchphrase about colorado
ubuntu support. Using our coloco address sounds much more widely
usable and beneficial to me, and if we don't like it we can change it.
-Neal
> Alex Comer
>
>
> On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A while back, I upgraded my GoDaddy account. I'll have to double
> check for certain, but I believe the upgrade includes hosting for an
> unlimited number of domains. I believe that the server that my
> account is associated with is running Fedora.
>
> If someone has a personal server that they want to host on, that's
> great too. Otherwise, I'll look further into setting up hosting for
> this.
>
> Also, I would be interested in helping out with the web
> implementation. Drupal sounds good as I believe that it would allow
> for editing by authenticated users. I've been wanting to implement
> something like Drupal, phpBB, or SimpleMachines (I know, these don't
> all serve the same purpose) for a while now, so it would be fun to be
> in on the implementation.
>
> I also have some ideas for the shirt design and would love to join
> forces with anyone who is interested on that as well. I'm in the
> process of trying to locate the screen printing shop here in FC to see
> what their prices are. The shirts that they are using are really nice
> and are high quality.
>
> - Darrin
>
>
> On 10/11/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > Let me offer my support. If we are serious about this endeavor, I offer
> to
> > install/configure/maintain a drupal CMS. I can also register a domain and
> > host if need be, although my server is *gasp* red hat :) (I'm looking at
> > migrating to ubuntu server though :)
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/07, Jim Hutchinson < jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> > > The other tech support idea is still in the works. It should happen
> > > eventually. This idea is more of a "I'm a computer geek and will help
> > > you for free if you want to dump MS and go to Ubuntu" kind of idea. I
> > > don't really envision it being a team thing other than that we support
> > > the idea and will put up a single point of contact on the web for shy
> > > people to visit. Maybe we put our email address too and the area we
> > > are in so people who are interested can contact us. If they don't ask
> > > you when they see you they will need some way to contact someone.
> > >
> > > Maybe this should be a discussion at the next meeting.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > On 10/11/07, Dave Vanderploeg <dave.vanderploeg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I wouldn't say your heading down the wrong road but we've talked
> about
> > doing
> > > > this "free tech support for Linux" idea before and nothing ever
> > > > materialized.
> > > >
> > > > I think what we need is a tech support group within the LoCo,
> complete
> > with
> > > > a lead who intends to do all the organization for this group. We need
> to
> > > > find someone who want to step up and be in charge of this project. I
> > think
> > > > until we have a volunteer to run show, nothing will really get done.
> > > >
> > > > Dave.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > I like the freeyourcomputer.whatever url. Anyone else have
> > > > > suggestions for a catchy, easy-to-remember URL that could be placed
> on
> > > > > the shirt? If people like this idea, I wouldn't mind pursuing it
> and
> > > > > putting something nice together on the web (it's how I make my
> > > > > living...). It would be nice to tie it in as a sister site to the
> > > > > CoLoCo site possibly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do people feel that this idea is worth looking further at? Am I
> > > > > heading down the wrong road here, or is this idea heading in a
> > > > > separate direction from the scope of CoLoCo? I would love to hear
> > > > > feedback from others; it seems as though this thread sort of died
> once
> > > > > I threw my 2-cents into the mix.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a company located in Fort Collins (can't recall their name
> at
> > > > > the moment) that screen prints on really nice organic cotton
> shirts.
> > > > > After speaking with them at the Sustainable Living Fair in
> September,
> > > > > I recall that their prices seemed pretty reasonable. I have been
> > > > > thinking for some time now about creating some Ubuntu shirts;
> donating
> > > > > the profits to Canonical would be one way to give back to the folks
> > > > > who have done so much for those of us who very much appreciate both
> > > > > Ubuntu as well as the community behind the project. I like the
> idea
> > > > > of advertising Ubuntu as well as advertising "computing freedom",
> and
> > > > > it would be great to give people a tool to seek out more
> information.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do people feel that this idea is worth pursuing?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Darrin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/10/07, Brandan E. Lloyd < coloco-ubuntu at thelloyds.net> wrote:
> > > > > > Good idea. I checked register.com and the following domains are
> > > > available:
> > > > > > freeyourcomputer.net
> > > > > > freeyourcomputer.org
> > > > > > freeyourcomputer.info
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brandan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/10/07, Darrin Goodman < darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I think that the shirt idea would be a great tool for
> advertising!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However, it has been my experience that people who are new to
> > > > > > > something don't always like to ask questions to a live person;
> it
> > can
> > > > > > > be somewhat intimidating, especially when talking about
> computers.
> > > > > > > The Ubuntu shirt is a great idea as an advertising mechanism,
> but
> > > > > > > along with the Ubuntu logo, it would be great to have a simple
> and
> > > > > > > easy-to-remember URL listed on the shirt. That way, when
> someone
> > sees
> > > > > > > the shirt and wants to learn more, they will hopefully go to
> the
> > > > > > > website. Plus, you might not always have a flier on hand and
> it
> > would
> > > > > > > be great to point folks to further resources.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Function of the website:
> > > > > > > - main page expresses in simple terms how the road to open
> source
> > /
> > > > > > > Linux / Ubuntu will benefit them
> > > > > > > - provides information on how to get started
> > > > > > > - links to valuable Ubuntu / general Linux resources, such as
> > > > UbuntuScreencasts
> > > > > > > - lists upcoming events, such as install-fests
> > > > > > > - allows the user to express interest in having an install-fest
> > take
> > > > > > > place in their region (if there is enough interest, it might be
> > worth
> > > > > > > taking the time to set up an install-fest in more remote parts
> of
> > the
> > > > > > > state)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A great way to help more than just one person is at an
> > install-fest.
> > > > > > > Time is rather valuable, and if you can help more than one
> person
> > at a
> > > > > > > time, that's time better spent. For prospective Linux / Ubuntu
> > > > > > > converts, I am not so sure if they have any idea that
> > install-fests
> > > > > > > take place or even what one is, so if we can get the word
> out...
> > The
> > > > > > > shirt idea might really work well. Something like this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Ubuntu Logo]
> > > > > > > Free your computer! Ask me how.
> > > > > > > www.colorado-ubuntu.net [or some other easy to remember URL]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I could be way off base here, but it seems like the shirt could
> a
> > > > > > > simple tool that would point people to a resource of
> information
> > -- a
> > > > > > > simple website where they could find out about *why open
> source*,
> > *why
> > > > > > > Ubuntu* and *how to get started*. The
> > http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org
> > > > > > > website is a great website and seems to be useful for people
> who
> > are
> > > > > > > already dialed into Ubuntu, but for the bare-bones beginner,
> I'm
> > not
> > > > > > > sure if it effectively addresses the "why" and "how" questions
> (or
> > at
> > > > > > > least I did not see anything like that on the site -- I mean no
> > > > > > > disrespect to the maintainers of this website).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is already a lot of information out on the web, but if we
> > are
> > > > > > > looking to address Joe Colorado and plug CoLoCo, this might be
> a
> > good
> > > > > > > way to do it as well as consolidate information for the
> newcomers.
> > > > > > > This is only my 2-cents worth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Darrin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Based on the discussion, I propose a new shirt project.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyone willing to be a billboard can order a shirt and wear
> it
> > with
> > > > > > > > pride anywhere they wish. We should order some brochures
> (maybe
> > from
> > > > > > > > system76) that explain Ubuntu and what we are willing to
> offer.
> > I
> > > > > > > > suggest we offer to introduce interested people to Ubuntu on
> our
> > own
> > > > > > > > equipment and then if they are interested helping them set up
> a
> > dual
> > > > > > > > boot. We should also be prepared to back up their files if
> they
> > > > can't.
> > > > > > > > Each person can decide for themselves how they want to
> approach
> > each
> > > > > > > > situation. The brochure should spell out the risks and make
> > clear
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > need to backup. If you get any bites while fishing with your
> > shirt
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > give them the brochure and a link to our website or mail
> list.
> > They
> > > > > > > > can ask questions and if they decide the way to try whoever
> was
> > > > their
> > > > > > > > point of contact can help them.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't know if there are any legal issues to worry about. If
> > > > someone
> > > > > > > > asks you to install something and there is an error I don't
> know
> > if
> > > > > > > > they can try to sue you or not. I'd say probably not -
> > especially if
> > > > > > > > you outlined the risks. However, it might be worthwhile to
> have
> > a
> > > > > > > > short document that says you are a volunteer and helping at
> > their
> > > > > > > > request. It outlines the process and risks and they sign it.
> I'm
> > > > sure
> > > > > > > > it's minimal protection but if they try to sue you I think
> most
> > > > judges
> > > > > > > > would be inclined to say tough luck to the individual if you
> > have
> > > > > > > > their consent in writing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'll see if I can get something drafted. I have access to a
> > lawyer.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any thoughts?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 10/7/07, Alex Comer <alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 10/7/07, David Overcash < funnylookinhat at gmail.com >
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Yeah... we do provide that. go ahead and change it. :
> )
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Slightly off topic, but I was over at
> > > > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList and
> > noticed
> > > > that our
> > > > > > > > > team does not have a YES under the column " Provides Local
> > > > Support" as many
> > > > > > > > > others do. I'm thinking thats not correct? Or am I
> > misinterpreting
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > table?
> > > > > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson < jim at ubuntu-rocks.org >
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if there is interest I'll be Mr. Shirt Guy
> again.
> > > > However, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > company I used before doesn't do silk screening and I
> > think
> > > > that's
> > > > > > > > > > > > what we'd want for the text on the back.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, David Overcash < funnylookinhat at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I would definitely be willing to do that. Heck,
> it'd
> > be a
> > > > great
> > > > > > > > > thing to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wear to our hopeful activities planned around the
> DNC
> > next
> > > > summer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson < jim at ubuntu-rocks.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not suggesting any particular version. I'm
> only
> > > > asking would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > something like t-shirt advertising be something
> > worth
> > > > looking
> > > > > > > > > into? If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone asks and you say I'll help you by
> installing
> > > > Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > > (probably
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dual boot) you will decide at that time what's
> best.
> > My
> > > > guess is
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we would want to install the latest edition. LTS
> > isn't
> > > > overly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > important on the desktop. How many of us are
> still
> > > > running dapper
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > even edgy. By the end of the month most of us
> will
> > be on
> > > > Gutsy.
> > > > > > > > > Many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > already are.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I'm asking is how willing would members be
> to
> > walk
> > > > around
> > > > > > > > > town
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with big letters on your back saying "free
> computer
> > > > help" or
> > > > > > > > > similar?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we would find a few willing converts from
> > time
> > > > to time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Collins Richey < crichey at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umm, maybe I'm off the mark here, but, was
> the
> > point
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > Collins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Richey was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > making:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. LTS (hence "free support") is not really
> > included
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > > Gutsy, but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you'd really want to promote Gutsy cause its
> > better
> > > > than
> > > > > > > > > 6.06LTS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or was it really that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. memorex cds marked with sharpie seem too
> > amateur
> > > > and he'd
> > > > > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distribute officially printed cds since they
> are
> > > > more
> > > > > > > > > professional
> > > > > > > > > > > > > visually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, both. The LTS edition is a bit too
> dated
> > for
> > > > many
> > > > > > > > > new/old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > laptops, and yeah I love the professional
> quality
> > > > covers for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > officially pressed disks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My laptop is pretty long in the tooth, but I
> > couldn't
> > > > get
> > > > > > > > > wireless to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work well until Gutsy came along.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Collins Richey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you fill your heart with regrets of
> > yesterday
> > > > and the
> > > > > > > > > worries
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of tomorrow, you have no today to be
> thankful
> > > > for.
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