[CoLoCo] new t-shirt / help idea
David L. Willson
DLWillson at TheGeek.NU
Fri Oct 12 00:58:51 BST 2007
Perhaps if it weren't free as in beer, it'd fly... I was thinking of
establishing a referral and reputation org for Linux-literate
sys-admins. Something like a co-op or brick-less establishment, but it
would have a 'reputation' element, like eBay...
Then, when a client says, "I don't know about this Linux stuph... What
if you get hit by a bus?" you can say, "Oh, then you'll just go to
www.denversag.com and pick out a new admin that has a good reputation,
that you can afford. Of course, I'll be ~dead~, but who cares about
that? <sniff>"
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 13:08 -0600, Dave Vanderploeg wrote:
> I wouldn't say your heading down the wrong road but we've talked about
> doing this "free tech support for Linux" idea before and nothing ever
> materialized.
>
> I think what we need is a tech support group within the LoCo, complete
> with a lead who intends to do all the organization for this group. We
> need to find someone who want to step up and be in charge of this
> project. I think until we have a volunteer to run show, nothing will
> really get done.
>
> Dave.
>
> On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I like the freeyourcomputer.whatever url. Anyone else have
> suggestions for a catchy, easy-to-remember URL that could be
> placed on
> the shirt? If people like this idea, I wouldn't mind pursuing
> it and
> putting something nice together on the web (it's how I make
> my
> living...). It would be nice to tie it in as a sister site to
> the
> CoLoCo site possibly.
>
> Do people feel that this idea is worth looking further at? Am
> I
> heading down the wrong road here, or is this idea heading in
> a
> separate direction from the scope of CoLoCo? I would love to
> hear
> feedback from others; it seems as though this thread sort of
> died once
> I threw my 2-cents into the mix.
>
> There is a company located in Fort Collins (can't recall their
> name at
> the moment) that screen prints on really nice organic cotton
> shirts.
> After speaking with them at the Sustainable Living Fair in
> September,
> I recall that their prices seemed pretty reasonable. I have
> been
> thinking for some time now about creating some Ubuntu shirts;
> donating
> the profits to Canonical would be one way to give back to the
> folks
> who have done so much for those of us who very much appreciate
> both
> Ubuntu as well as the community behind the project. I like
> the idea
> of advertising Ubuntu as well as advertising "computing
> freedom", and
> it would be great to give people a tool to seek out more
> information.
>
> Do people feel that this idea is worth pursuing?
>
> - Darrin
>
>
>
>
> On 10/10/07, Brandan E. Lloyd <coloco-ubuntu at thelloyds.net>
> wrote:
> > Good idea. I checked register.com and the following domains
> are available:
> > freeyourcomputer.net
> > freeyourcomputer.org
> > freeyourcomputer.info
> >
> > Brandan
> >
> > On 10/10/07, Darrin Goodman < darrin.goodman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I think that the shirt idea would be a great tool for
> advertising!
> > >
> > > However, it has been my experience that people who are new
> to
> > > something don't always like to ask questions to a live
> person; it can
> > > be somewhat intimidating, especially when talking about
> computers.
> > > The Ubuntu shirt is a great idea as an advertising
> mechanism, but
> > > along with the Ubuntu logo, it would be great to have a
> simple and
> > > easy-to-remember URL listed on the shirt. That way, when
> someone sees
> > > the shirt and wants to learn more, they will hopefully go
> to the
> > > website. Plus, you might not always have a flier on hand
> and it would
> > > be great to point folks to further resources.
> > >
> > > Function of the website:
> > > - main page expresses in simple terms how the road to open
> source /
> > > Linux / Ubuntu will benefit them
> > > - provides information on how to get started
> > > - links to valuable Ubuntu / general Linux resources, such
> as UbuntuScreencasts
> > > - lists upcoming events, such as install-fests
> > > - allows the user to express interest in having an
> install-fest take
> > > place in their region (if there is enough interest, it
> might be worth
> > > taking the time to set up an install-fest in more remote
> parts of the
> > > state)
> > >
> > > A great way to help more than just one person is at an
> install-fest.
> > > Time is rather valuable, and if you can help more than one
> person at a
> > > time, that's time better spent. For prospective Linux /
> Ubuntu
> > > converts, I am not so sure if they have any idea that
> install-fests
> > > take place or even what one is, so if we can get the word
> out... The
> > > shirt idea might really work well. Something like this:
> > >
> > > [Ubuntu Logo]
> > > Free your computer! Ask me how.
> > > www.colorado-ubuntu.net [or some other easy to remember
> URL]
> > >
> > > I could be way off base here, but it seems like the shirt
> could a
> > > simple tool that would point people to a resource of
> information -- a
> > > simple website where they could find out about *why open
> source*, *why
> > > Ubuntu* and *how to get started*. The
> http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org
> > > website is a great website and seems to be useful for
> people who are
> > > already dialed into Ubuntu, but for the bare-bones
> beginner, I'm not
> > > sure if it effectively addresses the "why" and "how"
> questions (or at
> > > least I did not see anything like that on the site -- I
> mean no
> > > disrespect to the maintainers of this website).
> > >
> > > There is already a lot of information out on the web, but
> if we are
> > > looking to address Joe Colorado and plug CoLoCo, this
> might be a good
> > > way to do it as well as consolidate information for the
> newcomers.
> > > This is only my 2-cents worth.
> > >
> > > - Darrin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/10/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> > > > Based on the discussion, I propose a new shirt project.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone willing to be a billboard can order a shirt and
> wear it with
> > > > pride anywhere they wish. We should order some brochures
> (maybe from
> > > > system76) that explain Ubuntu and what we are willing to
> offer. I
> > > > suggest we offer to introduce interested people to
> Ubuntu on our own
> > > > equipment and then if they are interested helping them
> set up a dual
> > > > boot. We should also be prepared to back up their files
> if they can't.
> > > > Each person can decide for themselves how they want to
> approach each
> > > > situation. The brochure should spell out the risks and
> make clear the
> > > > need to backup. If you get any bites while fishing with
> your shirt you
> > > > give them the brochure and a link to our website or mail
> list. They
> > > > can ask questions and if they decide the way to try
> whoever was their
> > > > point of contact can help them.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if there are any legal issues to worry
> about. If someone
> > > > asks you to install something and there is an error I
> don't know if
> > > > they can try to sue you or not. I'd say probably not -
> especially if
> > > > you outlined the risks. However, it might be worthwhile
> to have a
> > > > short document that says you are a volunteer and helping
> at their
> > > > request. It outlines the process and risks and they sign
> it. I'm sure
> > > > it's minimal protection but if they try to sue you I
> think most judges
> > > > would be inclined to say tough luck to the individual if
> you have
> > > > their consent in writing.
> > > >
> > > > I'll see if I can get something drafted. I have access
> to a lawyer.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > On 10/7/07, Alex Comer <alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > done
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/7/07, David Overcash <funnylookinhat at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Yeah... we do provide that. go ahead and change
> it. : )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Slightly off topic, but I was over at
> > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList and noticed that
> our
> > > > > team does not have a YES under the column " Provides
> Local Support" as many
> > > > > others do. I'm thinking thats not correct? Or am I
> misinterpreting that
> > > > > table?
> > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org >
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Well, if there is interest I'll be Mr. Shirt Guy
> again. However, the
> > > > > > > > company I used before doesn't do silk screening
> and I think that's
> > > > > > > > what we'd want for the text on the back.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, David Overcash <
> funnylookinhat at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I would definitely be willing to do
> that. Heck, it'd be a great
> > > > > thing to
> > > > > > > > > wear to our hopeful activities planned around
> the DNC next summer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson
> <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I'm not suggesting any particular version.
> I'm only asking would
> > > > > > > > > > something like t-shirt advertising be
> something worth looking
> > > > > into? If
> > > > > > > > > > someone asks and you say I'll help you by
> installing Ubuntu
> > > > > (probably
> > > > > > > > > > dual boot) you will decide at that time
> what's best. My guess is
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > we would want to install the latest edition.
> LTS isn't overly
> > > > > > > > > > important on the desktop. How many of us are
> still running dapper
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > even edgy. By the end of the month most of
> us will be on Gutsy.
> > > > > Many
> > > > > > > > > > already are.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What I'm asking is how willing would members
> be to walk around
> > > > > town
> > > > > > > > > > with big letters on your back saying "free
> computer help" or
> > > > > similar?
> > > > > > > > > > I think we would find a few willing converts
> from time to time.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Collins Richey <
> crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer <
> alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Umm, maybe I'm off the mark here, but,
> was the point that
> > > > > Collins
> > > > > > > > > Richey was
> > > > > > > > > > > > making:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. LTS (hence "free support") is not
> really included with
> > > > > Gutsy, but
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > you'd really want to promote Gutsy cause
> its better than
> > > > > 6.06LTS
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > or was it really that
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. memorex cds marked with sharpie seem
> too amateur and he'd
> > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > distribute officially printed cds since
> they are more
> > > > > professional
> > > > > > > > > visually
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Actually, both. The LTS edition is a bit
> too dated for many
> > > > > new/old
> > > > > > > > > > > laptops, and yeah I love the professional
> quality covers for the
> > > > > > > > > > > officially pressed disks.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My laptop is pretty long in the tooth, but
> I couldn't get
> > > > > wireless to
> > > > > > > > > > > work well until Gutsy came along.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Collins Richey
> > > > > > > > > > > If you fill your heart with regrets
> of yesterday and the
> > > > > worries
> > > > > > > > > > > of tomorrow, you have no today to be
> thankful for.
> > > > > > > > > > >
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