[CoLoCo] Webmin???

[TC]

No one is telling you what to run.  People are <i>choosing</i> not to
put things into the repositories that you want.

You could always choose to step up to the plate and choose to package,
support, and maintain them in the universe repository.

It's all about the choices, right?

At least you don't have to do a bootstrap compile of gcc, ah never mind,
you probably don't know what that is.

Kevin Fries wrote:
> ahh nuts, here we go again.
> 
> Linux is supposed to be about choice, but the Ubuntu distro is more and
> more showing that its just not industrial strength.  ebox does not have
> the industry wide support that webmin has.  Funny thing is that I often
> use webmin only for firewall configuration.  And, ebox does not appear
> to support shorewall, or any other standard firewall configuration
> utility.
> 
> Again, Linux is supposed to be about choice, but more and more Ubuntu is
> removing/limiting perfectly good packages and I am being told what to
> run (VMWare and VBox last week, Webmin this week).  I almost feel like I
> have been advocating the Linux worlds version of Microsoft (we will tell
> you what email server to run, we will tell you what database to run,
> etc, trust us, we know best).
> 
> Oh well, I guess two more servers need to be schedule for conversion to
> CentOS.
> 
> Kevin Fries
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:19 -0700, Neal McBurnett wrote:
>> Webmin has not been in any Ubuntu release since at least dapper:
>>
>>  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=webmin&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
>>
>> The server team has run into many problem with webmin, as ubotu will
>> tell you:
>>
>> (11:11:53 AM) nealmcb: !webmin
>>
>> ubotu: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not
>> compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration
>> files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See
>> !ebox instead.
>>
>> (11:11:53 AM) nealmcb: !ebox
>>
>> ubotu: ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
>>
>> webmin really doesn't understand debian systems and can change
>> your config files in ways that make upgrading, etc, pretty dicey.
>>
>> Ebox in gutsy is not recommended, but should be much better in hardy.
>> Testing very much welcomed!!!
>>
>> Neal McBurnett                 http://mcburnett.org/neal/
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 10:36:06AM -0600, Jeremy Schroeder wrote:
>>> I think the one in the repo's was really old, and in the forums and on the
>>> interwebs its suggested to install from webmin's site.
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> PS I love webmin!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Joey Stanford <joey at canonical.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     was taken out for some reason I suspect. Don't know.   I've been
>>>     installing it by hand lately from the webmin page.
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fries <kfries at cctus.com> wrote:
>>>     > Didn't webmin used to exist in the repos?
>>>     >
>>>     >  I can't seem to find it any longer, and so I have been installing it
>>>     >  allot from the webmin website.  Does anyone here know if there is a
>>>     >  reason it is not in the repos?