[ubuntu-us-in] Loco Activity.

[Rob Ludwick]

I know exactly who you were talking about.  It was that another person
with a similar name.  :)   I was only defending Simon.   

I wanted to point out the relevant sections of the Ubuntu Code of
Conduct.  Note that disagreements can and will happen, but we need to be
respectful about it.  

Be respectful. The Ubuntu community and its members treat one another
with respect. Everyone can make a valuable contribution to Ubuntu. We
may not always agree, but disagreement is no excuse for poor behaviour
and poor manners. We might all experience some frustration now and then,
but we cannot allow that frustration to turn into a personal attack.
It's important to remember that a community where people feel
uncomfortable or threatened is not a productive one. We expect members
of the Ubuntu community to be respectful when dealing with other
contributors as well as with people outside the Ubuntu project and with
users of Ubuntu.

And:

When we disagree, we consult others. Disagreements, both social and
technical, happen all the time and the Ubuntu community is no exception.
It is important that we resolve disagreements and differing views
constructively and with the help of the community and community
processes. We have the Technical Board, the Community Council, and a
series of other governance bodies which help to decide the right course
for Ubuntu. There are also several project teams and team leaders, who
may be able to help us figure out the best direction for Ubuntu. When
our goals differ dramatically, we encourage the creation of alternative
sets of packages, or derivative distributions, using the Ubuntu Package
Management framework, so that the community can test new ideas and
contribute to the discussion.

> Mr. Rob Ludwick,
>   My rant was not pointed at you.  Sorry if it came across as I was.  I
> was replying to Rob <rhbowman at gmail> who seems to have emailed the Loco
> via Launchpad in some way that I am not famaliar with, and isn't this
> mailing list.
> 
> Sorry my reply did not get to the proper recipient.  Again Rob Ludwick,
> sorry about this confusion and I hope I did not cause you any stress
> over my mistake.
> 
> Thank you,
> Scott Blaydes
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/23/2010 02:59 PM, Rob Ludwick wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> > I have known Simon for several years, and I have not known Simon to be a
> > conniving back-stabbing two-faced power-mongering leader.  In fact, he's
> > really been quite the opposite, which I though made a good match for the
> > Ubuntu Indiana LoCo.  And it was with some sadness I read he was not
> > going to be continuing in his role as the leader.
> > 
> > Simon has been honest and up front about this with the entire group when
> > he offered to let someone else take over the reigns of the LoCo on the
> > mailing list a few months back.
> > 
> > Priorities change, and both Mike and Simon have stated they couldn't
> > give this group the priority it deserved.  
> > 
> > If people have ideas for a meetup, installfest, publicity event, etc,
> > this mailing list is the place for people to get some steam behind the
> > idea and to ask for volunteers.  
> > 
> > If you would like to see what other state-wide groups are doing I
> > recommend everyone read the lessons-learned series on this site:
> > 
> > http://ubuntu-us.org/
> > 
> > --Rob
> > 
> > On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 05:27 +0000, Scott Blaydes wrote:
> >> Rob,
> >>   You seem to come across a bit harsh to just call for Simón to
> >> relinquish control of the group without being any more active in the
> >> Loco yourself.  If Simón needs to step down, what grand plan do you have
> >> for the group?  It seems like it would be more convincing if you would
> >> offer up some ideas for the group to be more active rather than just
> >> call for someone to step down.  One of the great things about Open
> >> Source and Free software is that everything doesn't not have to come
> >> from a single "leader", we are all able to step up and contribute.  You
> >> don't have to have "control of the loco team" to show leadership and get
> >> things going.  Being a leader is a trait, not a title.  Instead of
> >> worrying about who's name is where on the website, how about leading by
> >> example and starting some of activity you think the group needs.
> >>
> >> Sorry if I took the tone of your message wrong, but I know how much hard
> >> work Simón put forth for Ubuntu in Indiana, before there even were LoCo
> >> teams.  Simón is one on the nicest and most even tempered ppl you will
> >> meet, and deserves a lot more respect than what I got from your post.
> >> Since he and Michael have both talked about passing on the torch, it is
> >> rude to ask them to step down when no one else has stepped up.
> >>
> >> Just my 2 cents....
> >> Scott Blaydes
> >> -- 
> >> This message was sent from Launchpad by
> >> Scott Blaydes (https://launchpad.net/~sblaydes)
> >> using the "Contact this team" link on the Indiana LoCo Team team page
> >> (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-indiana).
> >> For more information see
> >> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
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