From kimweir569 at charter.net  Mon Jun 15 19:01:45 2009
From: kimweir569 at charter.net (Kim Weirauch)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:01:45 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] thank you
Message-ID: <AA22AA5BEA8B4B83956C42D58780BBCE@JoAnnPC>

Thank you



http://kunkocktions.com/
YOUR LAST SOCIAL NETWORKING ....STOP !!
Provided by Kim W.  &  Lori J.
Please try our new SITE .  Today ?!
WHAT WILL YOU KONKOCT  ...  TONITE ??



-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090615/895ecdfd/attachment.htm 
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 6801 bytes
Desc: not available
Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090615/895ecdfd/attachment.jpeg 

From ramengirl at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 20:51:58 2009
From: ramengirl at gmail.com (Rebecca Herber)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:51:58 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] thank you
In-Reply-To: <AA22AA5BEA8B4B83956C42D58780BBCE@JoAnnPC>
References: <AA22AA5BEA8B4B83956C42D58780BBCE@JoAnnPC>
Message-ID: <af1572940906151251y16fa8598v58c173f030fa51be@mail.gmail.com>

Huh? Is this something from the meeting that I wasn't on the forum or
somewhere else on the Launchpad?

Just curious.

Becky
-- 
*********************************************
Becky Herber
ramengirl at gmail.com			
http://eevee4.livejournal.com


From bradmcmahon at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 21:19:19 2009
From: bradmcmahon at gmail.com (Bradley McMahon)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:19:19 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] thank you
In-Reply-To: <af1572940906151251y16fa8598v58c173f030fa51be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AA22AA5BEA8B4B83956C42D58780BBCE@JoAnnPC>
	<af1572940906151251y16fa8598v58c173f030fa51be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9199bfb0906151319l275fef17r8a3cee50cf969ad8@mail.gmail.com>

it's SPAM
Bradley McMahon



On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Rebecca Herber <ramengirl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Huh? Is this something from the meeting that I wasn't on the forum or
> somewhere else on the Launchpad?
>
> Just curious.
>
> Becky
> --
> *********************************************
> Becky Herber
> ramengirl at gmail.com
> http://eevee4.livejournal.com
>
> --
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090615/4d287b4d/attachment.htm 

From ramengirl at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 00:44:48 2009
From: ramengirl at gmail.com (Rebecca Herber)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:44:48 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] Roommate still needed in Westland
Message-ID: <af1572940906151644t3056b47em414fe20cf10ab42f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

My boyfriend Robert is still looking for a roommate in the Westland
area ASAP. Please see the info below.

Becky
-- 
*********************************************
Becky Herber
ramengirl at gmail.com			
http://eevee4.livejournal.com

Okay...

I still DESPERATELY need a roommate to rent out a room in my
two-bedroom apartment, for $400/month (covers half of rent,
cable/internet, heat/hot water, and electricity-getting rid of home
phone tomorrow evening).  This apartment COULD support a couple
(previous roommmates were an engaged couple-if so, rent can be split).
 If there are pets involved in this, the complex asks for a $200 fee,
and the rent goes up $20 a month.

My apartment is in Westland, and the major cross-streets are Warren
Road and Merriman Road, in the Hines Park Apartments complex.  It's
within 15 minutes of I-96, I-275, and I-94, Westland Mall is about
five minutes west of here, and Hines Park is "my backyard", a short
walk can get you there.

I have five rules of the renter(s): be dependable, responsible, no
drama at my doors (i.e. no cops at my door for you smoking a joint),
have the money, and need the room- everything else is negotiable!  I
have a few nights a week where I have my gaming group over (one
weeknight TBD, alt. Saturdays and every Sunday evening).  My daughter,
Shelly, stays on the weekends with the Saturday gaming nights, and she
is over on Tuesday evenings after work.  I do my Dementia Radio show
after I drop her off, at 8-9 pm.

My cell is 734-777-5803, call anytime.  I need the roommate, since I
had to renew the lease- nowhere else to go.  I'd like to have a fellow
fen here, who understands my hobbies and such, so that is why I'm
advertising here.

Thanks,

Robert Poloskey, a.k.a. Trav

The Travcast, hour three of Blindwulf's Rubber Room Association,
Tuesday nights, 8-9 EST
www.DementiaRadio.org

For me, cooking is like reading science fiction- I read a recipe in a
cookbook and say, "Yeah, like THAT is gonna happen".

Eph 6:12    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of
this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].


From robert.citek at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 20:13:42 2009
From: robert.citek at gmail.com (Robert Citek)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:13:42 -0500
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] xrdp on Ubuntu 9.04
In-Reply-To: <4145b6790906171204x4a255250n190b084c6bed6a43@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4145b6790906171204x4a255250n190b084c6bed6a43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4145b6790906171213t7c22279p97d94f83c923a21f@mail.gmail.com>

Was wondering if anyone has successfully setup xrdp on Ubuntu 9.04?

xrdp is a service that allows Windows machines to connect remotely to
a Linux box via mstsc (Microsoft Terminal Server Client), the
pre-installed RDP client for Windows.  When I try to connect, it does
connect, but the screen keeps flashing as though the desktop keeps
trying to restart.

Regards,
- Robert


From bradmcmahon at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 22:24:47 2009
From: bradmcmahon at gmail.com (Bradley McMahon)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:24:47 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] xrdp on Ubuntu 9.04
In-Reply-To: <4145b6790906171213t7c22279p97d94f83c923a21f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4145b6790906171204x4a255250n190b084c6bed6a43@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4145b6790906171213t7c22279p97d94f83c923a21f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9199bfb0906181424u5bd03f75g6ab949ff7fcba34c@mail.gmail.com>

I suggest nx over any windows crazy protocols besides it's over ssh and is
crazy fast.

nomachine.com
Bradley McMahon



On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Robert Citek <robert.citek at gmail.com>wrote:

> Was wondering if anyone has successfully setup xrdp on Ubuntu 9.04?
>
> xrdp is a service that allows Windows machines to connect remotely to
> a Linux box via mstsc (Microsoft Terminal Server Client), the
> pre-installed RDP client for Windows.  When I try to connect, it does
> connect, but the screen keeps flashing as though the desktop keeps
> trying to restart.
>
> Regards,
> - Robert
>
> --
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090618/13f2464c/attachment.htm 

From jrwren at xmtp.net  Thu Jun 18 22:27:12 2009
From: jrwren at xmtp.net (Jay R. Wren)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:27:12 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] xrdp on Ubuntu 9.04
In-Reply-To: <9199bfb0906181424u5bd03f75g6ab949ff7fcba34c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4145b6790906171204x4a255250n190b084c6bed6a43@mail.gmail.com>
	<4145b6790906171213t7c22279p97d94f83c923a21f@mail.gmail.com>
	<9199bfb0906181424u5bd03f75g6ab949ff7fcba34c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FFBC8EDF0D1D4604B09EA31AAC3702B8@theknife>

The disadvantage of NX over RDP is that in an entrenched windows environment, deployment can be an issue.

With RDP, there is no deployment requirement. You tell people to "remote desktop to here" and they do.

I really hope that xrdp succeeds to the point that I can tell people to RDP to a linux server and they don't have to think about it. Hopefully with domain kerberos auth.

--
Jay



From: Bradley McMahon 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:24 PM
To: Ubuntu Michigan Local Community Team 
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-mi] xrdp on Ubuntu 9.04


I suggest nx over any windows crazy protocols besides it's over ssh and is crazy fast. 

nomachine.com 
Bradley McMahon




On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Robert Citek <robert.citek at gmail.com> wrote:

  Was wondering if anyone has successfully setup xrdp on Ubuntu 9.04?

  xrdp is a service that allows Windows machines to connect remotely to
  a Linux box via mstsc (Microsoft Terminal Server Client), the
  pre-installed RDP client for Windows.  When I try to connect, it does
  connect, but the screen keeps flashing as though the desktop keeps
  trying to restart.

  Regards,
  - Robert

  --
  ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
  ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
  Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-- 
ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090618/1676fc67/attachment.htm 

From robert.citek at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 03:45:49 2009
From: robert.citek at gmail.com (Robert Citek)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:45:49 -0500
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] xrdp on Ubuntu 9.04
In-Reply-To: <FFBC8EDF0D1D4604B09EA31AAC3702B8@theknife>
References: <4145b6790906171204x4a255250n190b084c6bed6a43@mail.gmail.com>
	<4145b6790906171213t7c22279p97d94f83c923a21f@mail.gmail.com>
	<9199bfb0906181424u5bd03f75g6ab949ff7fcba34c@mail.gmail.com>
	<FFBC8EDF0D1D4604B09EA31AAC3702B8@theknife>
Message-ID: <4145b6790906181945l2a872ed4n5fc1a79630074274@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jay R. Wren <jrwren at xmtp.net> wrote:
> The disadvantage of NX over RDP is that in an entrenched windows environment, deployment can be an issue.

Bingo!

> With RDP, there is no deployment requirement. You tell people to "remote desktop to here" and they do.

That's the plan.  And the reverse already works in that I can use
rdesktop to connect to a Windows Terminal Server.

> I really hope that xrdp succeeds to the point that I can tell people to RDP to a linux server and they don't have to think about it. Hopefully with domain kerberos auth.

I'd be happy if plain-vanilla worked.  Right now, all I get is screen
flicker.  If it was an old-style TV, I'd think to adjust the rabbit
ears or give it a good whack.

Regards,
- Robert


From wolfger at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 17:35:54 2009
From: wolfger at gmail.com (Wolfger)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:35:54 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
Message-ID: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into the
realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.

So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
(preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
it be to do?

-- 
Wolfger
http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
http://twitter.com/wolfger
http://identi.ca/wolfger

The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.


From darth.indy at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 17:43:45 2009
From: darth.indy at gmail.com (Chelsey Twigg)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:43:45 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't ever used it, but I found this article:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/

I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience with any
KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all family and friends
that use Ubuntu, and most of them live out-of-state

Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command or two,
if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just have her copy/paste
the commands and run them. Once you get them past the initial fear of the
command line, it makes things so much easier than remote desktop, or "OK,
click here... Then there..." I've been putting together a bash script,
actually, for friends to run on new installs, to install Medibuntu, updates,
and favorite tools.

Hope that helps!

P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never chipped in. So
hi everyone!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into the
> realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
> agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
> rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
> easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.
>
> So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
> (preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
> it be to do?
>
> --
> Wolfger
> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
> http://twitter.com/wolfger
> http://identi.ca/wolfger
>
> The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.
>
> --
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090624/5a292c5b/attachment.htm 

From todd.deland at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 17:49:18 2009
From: todd.deland at gmail.com (Todd DeLand)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:49:18 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com> 
	<825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>

I am a lurker as well, Chelsey :)
The included Remote Desktop tools in Gnome seem to work pretty well for me.
It really is just VNC.

Make sure you poke a hole in her router and forward the port to her machine
though so you can connect from outside of her network (I hope she is behind
a router).

Is it hot today or what?

Todd

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Chelsey Twigg <darth.indy at gmail.com>wrote:

> I haven't ever used it, but I found this article:
> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/
>
> I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience with any
> KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all family and friends
> that use Ubuntu, and most of them live out-of-state
>
> Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command or two,
> if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just have her copy/paste
> the commands and run them. Once you get them past the initial fear of the
> command line, it makes things so much easier than remote desktop, or "OK,
> click here... Then there..." I've been putting together a bash script,
> actually, for friends to run on new installs, to install Medibuntu, updates,
> and favorite tools.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never chipped in.
> So hi everyone!
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into the
>> realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
>> agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
>> rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
>> easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.
>>
>> So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
>> (preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
>> it be to do?
>>
>> --
>> Wolfger
>> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
>> http://twitter.com/wolfger
>> http://identi.ca/wolfger
>>
>> The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>
>
>
> --
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090624/4f142e63/attachment.htm 

From weboide at codealpha.net  Wed Jun 24 18:06:01 2009
From: weboide at codealpha.net (Arnaud Soyez)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:06:01 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>
	<825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090624130601.57ca2fe9@glados>

Also if you are familiar with terminal/ssh, you can install
openssh-server.

Make sure that:
 - you have an admin user on the remote machine
 - you configure the ssh server to allow only the above user to log-in
   through ssh (AllowUsers I think, in /etc/ssh/sshd_config)
 - as previously said, you open a port on the router.

And I confirm that it's really hot today...

-- 
~ Arnaud Soyez
[GPG] BD1D82F4 (keyserver.ubuntu.com)




Le Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:49:18 -0400,
Todd DeLand <todd.deland at gmail.com> a ?crit :

> I am a lurker as well, Chelsey :)
> The included Remote Desktop tools in Gnome seem to work pretty well
> for me. It really is just VNC.
> 
> Make sure you poke a hole in her router and forward the port to her
> machine though so you can connect from outside of her network (I hope
> she is behind a router).
> 
> Is it hot today or what?
> 
> Todd
> 
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Chelsey Twigg
> <darth.indy at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > I haven't ever used it, but I found this article:
> > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/
> >
> > I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience
> > with any KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all
> > family and friends that use Ubuntu, and most of them live
> > out-of-state
> >
> > Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command
> > or two, if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just
> > have her copy/paste the commands and run them. Once you get them
> > past the initial fear of the command line, it makes things so much
> > easier than remote desktop, or "OK, click here... Then there..."
> > I've been putting together a bash script, actually, for friends to
> > run on new installs, to install Medibuntu, updates, and favorite
> > tools.
> >
> > Hope that helps!
> >
> > P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never
> > chipped in. So hi everyone!
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into
> >> the realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is
> >> why I agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really*
> >> wanted to rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it
> >> would be much easier if I could give support from the convenience
> >> of my home.
> >>
> >> So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
> >> (preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated
> >> will it be to do?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wolfger
> >> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
> >> http://twitter.com/wolfger
> >> http://identi.ca/wolfger
> >>
> >> The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> >> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> > ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
> >
> >

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 489 bytes
Desc: not available
Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090624/0b0ae13f/attachment.pgp 

From gib at juno.com  Wed Jun 24 18:29:22 2009
From: gib at juno.com (gib at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:29:22 GMT
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi]  remote support
Message-ID: <20090624.132922.15848.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com>

 
Hi, good to see you contribute.   If you are local to Detroit we would like to invite all of you lurkers to the regular meetings of some local groups.  See the web site :
http://www.mdlug.org  

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Chelsey Twigg <darth.indy at gmail.com>
To: Ubuntu Michigan Local Community Team <ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:43:45 -0400

I haven't ever used it, but I found this article: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/

I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience with any KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all family and friends that use Ubuntu, and most of them live out-of-state

Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command or two, if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just have her copy/paste the commands and run them. Once you get them past the initial fear of the command line, it makes things so much easier than remote desktop, or "OK, click here... Then there..." I've been putting together a bash script, actually, for friends to run on new installs, to install Medibuntu, updates, and favorite tools.

Hope that helps!

P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never chipped in. So hi everyone!


On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into the
realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.

So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
(preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
it be to do?

--
Wolfger
http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
http://twitter.com/wolfger
http://identi.ca/wolfger

The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.

--
ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi

____________________________________________________________
Wanna lose weight?  Weight Loss Programs that work. Click here.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsEGrGuydcoI4W6sUZ0439wMgU4wZ5fBNRHAgbTNjdRueeg7kVWcTW/
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090624/66eb5b88/attachment-0001.htm 

From bradmcmahon at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 18:34:59 2009
From: bradmcmahon at gmail.com (Brad McMahon)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:34:59 -0700
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>
	<825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8C4B7CC1-4B7F-4F27-8C7F-C359A4BF84DE@gmail.com>

Wolfger
I suggest you setup a reverse ssh connection at login and an NX server  
on their box.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Todd DeLand <todd.deland at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am a lurker as well, Chelsey :)
>
> The included Remote Desktop tools in Gnome seem to work pretty well  
> for me. It really is just VNC.
>
> Make sure you poke a hole in her router and forward the port to her  
> machine though so you can connect from outside of her network (I  
> hope she is behind a router).
>
> Is it hot today or what?
>
> Todd
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Chelsey Twigg  
> <darth.indy at gmail.com> wrote:
> I haven't ever used it, but I found this article: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/
>
> I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience  
> with any KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all  
> family and friends that use Ubuntu, and most of them live out-of-state
>
> Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command  
> or two, if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just have  
> her copy/paste the commands and run them. Once you get them past the  
> initial fear of the command line, it makes things so much easier  
> than remote desktop, or "OK, click here... Then there..." I've been  
> putting together a bash script, actually, for friends to run on new  
> installs, to install Medibuntu, updates, and favorite tools.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never  
> chipped in. So hi everyone!
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into the
> realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
> agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
> rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
> easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.
>
> So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
> (preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
> it be to do?
>
> --
> Wolfger
> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
> http://twitter.com/wolfger
> http://identi.ca/wolfger
>
> The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.
>
> --
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>
>
> --
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>
>
> -- 
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-mi/attachments/20090624/7bf4bd97/attachment.htm 

From wolfger at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 19:39:01 2009
From: wolfger at gmail.com (Wolfger)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:39:01 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <8C4B7CC1-4B7F-4F27-8C7F-C359A4BF84DE@gmail.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>
	<825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>
	<8C4B7CC1-4B7F-4F27-8C7F-C359A4BF84DE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3b00b3330906241139n4a8d2f2cu4e5223af32096124@mail.gmail.com>

"reverse SSH"? You, sir, are either pulling my leg or over my head.


On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Brad McMahon<bradmcmahon at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wolfger
> I suggest you setup a reverse ssh connection at login and an NX server on
> their box.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Todd DeLand <todd.deland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am a lurker as well, Chelsey :)
> The included Remote Desktop tools in Gnome seem to work pretty well for me.
> It really is just VNC.
> Make sure you poke a hole in her router and forward the port to her machine
> though so you can connect from outside of her network (I hope she is behind
> a router).
> Is it hot today or what?
> Todd
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Chelsey Twigg <darth.indy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I haven't ever used it, but I found this article:
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/
>>
>> I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience with any
>> KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all family and friends
>> that use Ubuntu, and most of them live out-of-state
>>
>> Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command or
>> two, if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just have her
>> copy/paste the commands and run them. Once you get them past the initial
>> fear of the command line, it makes things so much easier than remote
>> desktop, or "OK, click here... Then there..." I've been putting together a
>> bash script, actually, for friends to run on new installs, to install
>> Medibuntu, updates, and favorite tools.
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never chipped in.
>> So hi everyone!
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into the
>>> realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
>>> agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
>>> rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
>>> easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.
>>>
>>> So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
>>> (preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
>>> it be to do?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wolfger
>>> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
>>> http://twitter.com/wolfger
>>> http://identi.ca/wolfger
>>>
>>> The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>
>
> --
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>
> --
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>
>



-- 
Wolfger
http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
http://twitter.com/wolfger
http://identi.ca/wolfger

The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.


From greg at grossmeier.net  Wed Jun 24 19:58:08 2009
From: greg at grossmeier.net (Greg Grossmeier)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:58:08 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] [[Fwd: [a2geeks] Announcing Michigan GTUG]]
Message-ID: <20090624185808.GB5959@foucault>

Thought that maybe some of you would be interested in this. Would be 
good to get a solid FLOSS perspective in the group, in my opinion.

It doesn't appear that they have any physical meetups, instead just a 
bunch of google web resources to join (friendconnect, etc).

- Greg

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	[a2geeks] Announcing Michigan GTUG
> Date: 	Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:43:40 -0400
> From: 	Timothy Fisher <timothyf at gmail.com>
> To: 	a2geeks at googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> After the 2009 Google I/O Conference, Google began an aggressive
> campaign to kick start Google Technology User Groups (GTUG).   I decided
> that it was an interesting idea and have begun to lay the framework to
> set up the Michigan GTUG.  Since the group has been announced on a few
> other mailing lists, we are currently at 24 members.  Google has a
> wealth of developer technologies currently available and they seem to be
> releasing something new almost every month lately.  I think that there
> is an excellent pool of technology to draw from to make for a very
> interesting user group.
> 
> Some of the developer technologies that I could envision being covered
> by the group include:
> **
> 
>      * Android <http://code.google.com/android/>
>      * Google APIs (Maps, YouTube, Search, etc)
>        <http://code.google.com/more/#products-products-accounts>
>      * Google Friend Connect <http://www.google.com/friendconnect/>
>      * Google Web Toolkit (GWT) <http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/>
> 
>      * Google App Engine <http://code.google.com/appengine/>
>      * OpenSocial <http://www.opensocial.org/>
>      * Google Wave <http://wave.google.com/>
> 
> **A nice thing about these technologies is that most of them support
> multiple languages and thus the group should attract a diverse audience
> with differing backgrounds.  This will be great for knowledge sharing
> and collaboration throughout the area.  Google also promises to support
> the GTUGs and have offered a "swag" package for the first meeting.
> 
> Please take a moment to visit the GTUG website at:
> http://sites.google.com/a/gtugs.org/mi-gtug/
> 
> Join the group by joining the mailing list at:
> http://groups.google.com/group/mi-gtug
> 
> Finally, you can also follow the group on Twitter at:
> http://twitter.com/migtug
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Timothy Fisher
> ----------------------
> This automatic notification message was sent by CTools (https://ctools.umich.edu/portal) from the enabling tech int site.
> You can modify how you receive notifications at My Workspace > Preferences.

----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
|       Greg Grossmeier |
|   greg at grossmeier.net |
| http://grossmeier.net |


From tony at bemushosting.com  Wed Jun 24 22:10:08 2009
From: tony at bemushosting.com (Tony Bemus)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:10:08 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <3b00b3330906241139n4a8d2f2cu4e5223af32096124@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>	<825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>	<2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>	<8C4B7CC1-4B7F-4F27-8C7F-C359A4BF84DE@gmail.com>
	<3b00b3330906241139n4a8d2f2cu4e5223af32096124@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A429630.8070300@bemushosting.com>

I wrote a simple script that does port forwarding and it forwards the 
VNC port to a server.  I have a script that the user runs then I connect 
to my server on that port and I can use VNC to control their desktop.

User:
ssh -X -p 3389 -N -R 5900:localhost:5900  support at bemus.homelinux.com

SSH will prompt them for a password,  then I can connect providing they 
have remote desktop turned on.

Tony Bemus


Wolfger wrote:
> "reverse SSH"? You, sir, are either pulling my leg or over my head.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Brad McMahon<bradmcmahon at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Wolfger
>> I suggest you setup a reverse ssh connection at login and an NX server on
>> their box.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Todd DeLand <todd.deland at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am a lurker as well, Chelsey :)
>> The included Remote Desktop tools in Gnome seem to work pretty well for me.
>> It really is just VNC.
>> Make sure you poke a hole in her router and forward the port to her machine
>> though so you can connect from outside of her network (I hope she is behind
>> a router).
>> Is it hot today or what?
>> Todd
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Chelsey Twigg <darth.indy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>     
>>> I haven't ever used it, but I found this article:
>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/
>>>
>>> I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience with any
>>> KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all family and friends
>>> that use Ubuntu, and most of them live out-of-state
>>>
>>> Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command or
>>> two, if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just have her
>>> copy/paste the commands and run them. Once you get them past the initial
>>> fear of the command line, it makes things so much easier than remote
>>> desktop, or "OK, click here... Then there..." I've been putting together a
>>> bash script, actually, for friends to run on new installs, to install
>>> Medibuntu, updates, and favorite tools.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps!
>>>
>>> P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never chipped in.
>>> So hi everyone!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into the
>>>> realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
>>>> agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
>>>> rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
>>>> easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.
>>>>
>>>> So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
>>>> (preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
>>>> it be to do?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Wolfger
>>>> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
>>>> http://twitter.com/wolfger
>>>> http://identi.ca/wolfger
>>>>
>>>> The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>>         
>>> --
>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>
>>>       
>> --
>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   

-- 
Tony Bemus
Bemus Hosting
Web Hosting and Design
http://www.bemushosting.com



From robert.citek at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 23:41:37 2009
From: robert.citek at gmail.com (Robert Citek)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:41:37 -0500
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <4A429630.8070300@bemushosting.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>
	<825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>
	<8C4B7CC1-4B7F-4F27-8C7F-C359A4BF84DE@gmail.com>
	<3b00b3330906241139n4a8d2f2cu4e5223af32096124@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A429630.8070300@bemushosting.com>
Message-ID: <4145b6790906241541n3c92e077nc86430870f9f42f4@mail.gmail.com>

This sounds like a really nice feature of ssh.   So I'm curious about
some details.  Does this mean that support has an account on
bemus.homelinux.com?  How do you prevent a remote user from gaining
shell access?  Or is that not an issue?  How do you disconnect them
from your machine when you are finished so that you can help the next
person?

Regards,
- Robert

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com> wrote:
>
> I wrote a simple script that does port forwarding and it forwards the
> VNC port to a server.  I have a script that the user runs then I connect
> to my server on that port and I can use VNC to control their desktop.
>
> User:
> ssh -X -p 3389 -N -R 5900:localhost:5900  support at bemus.homelinux.com
>
> SSH will prompt them for a password,  then I can connect providing they
> have remote desktop turned on.
>
> Tony Bemus
>
>
> Wolfger wrote:
> > "reverse SSH"? You, sir, are either pulling my leg or over my head.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Brad McMahon<bradmcmahon at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Wolfger
> >> I suggest you setup a reverse ssh connection at login and an NX server on
> >> their box.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Todd DeLand <todd.deland at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am a lurker as well, Chelsey :)
> >> The included Remote Desktop tools in Gnome seem to work pretty well for me.
> >> It really is just VNC.
> >> Make sure you poke a hole in her router and forward the port to her machine
> >> though so you can connect from outside of her network (I hope she is behind
> >> a router).
> >> Is it hot today or what?
> >> Todd
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Chelsey Twigg <darth.indy at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I haven't ever used it, but I found this article:
> >>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/
> >>>
> >>> I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience with any
> >>> KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all family and friends
> >>> that use Ubuntu, and most of them live out-of-state
> >>>
> >>> Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command or
> >>> two, if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just have her
> >>> copy/paste the commands and run them. Once you get them past the initial
> >>> fear of the command line, it makes things so much easier than remote
> >>> desktop, or "OK, click here... Then there..." I've been putting together a
> >>> bash script, actually, for friends to run on new installs, to install
> >>> Medibuntu, updates, and favorite tools.
> >>>
> >>> Hope that helps!
> >>>
> >>> P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never chipped in.
> >>> So hi everyone!
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into the
> >>>> realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
> >>>> agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
> >>>> rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
> >>>> easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.
> >>>>
> >>>> So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
> >>>> (preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
> >>>> it be to do?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Wolfger
> >>>> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
> >>>> http://twitter.com/wolfger
> >>>> http://identi.ca/wolfger
> >>>>
> >>>> The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> >>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> >>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> >> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
> >>
> >> --
> >> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> >> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Tony Bemus
> Bemus Hosting
> Web Hosting and Design
> http://www.bemushosting.com
>
>
> --
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi


From smoser at brickies.net  Thu Jun 25 01:18:23 2009
From: smoser at brickies.net (Scott Moser)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:18:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>
	<825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0906242016350.27381@brickies>

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Todd DeLand wrote:

> I am a lurker as well, Chelsey :)
> The included Remote Desktop tools in Gnome seem to work pretty well for me.
> It really is just VNC.
>
> Make sure you poke a hole in her router and forward the port to her machine
> though so you can connect from outside of her network (I hope she is behind
> a router).

I've not used it, but many of the windows vnc servers support "reverse
vnc".  I really dont know much more than that.
There is information on that for linux at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299489

http://anthonymaciel.com/dhcontest/dreamsupport also has information
(although that is for windows).

>
> Is it hot today or what?


From tony at bemushosting.com  Thu Jun 25 03:31:43 2009
From: tony at bemushosting.com (Tony Bemus)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:31:43 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <4145b6790906241541n3c92e077nc86430870f9f42f4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>	<825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>	<2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>	<8C4B7CC1-4B7F-4F27-8C7F-C359A4BF84DE@gmail.com>	<3b00b3330906241139n4a8d2f2cu4e5223af32096124@mail.gmail.com>	<4A429630.8070300@bemushosting.com>
	<4145b6790906241541n3c92e077nc86430870f9f42f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A42E18F.4000800@bemushosting.com>

Robert,  There is an account "support" on the server,  There is no shell 
access,  in the passwd file I put /bin/false for the shell.  so they 
only have access to forward ports and no shell access.  I can disconnect 
them by either ctrl+c when I'm controlling their desktop or I can kill 
their ssh process on the server.

 The one down fall is that with this design I can only use one person 
per that script.  If I wanted to help multiple people then they all 
would have to have their own ports in the script.

I got the idea from a commercial product called Kaseya,  it is windows 
based but the windows client connected to a server and my computer 
connected to the server then I was able to control their desktop.

Tony

Robert Citek wrote:
> This sounds like a really nice feature of ssh.   So I'm curious about
> some details.  Does this mean that support has an account on
> bemus.homelinux.com?  How do you prevent a remote user from gaining
> shell access?  Or is that not an issue?  How do you disconnect them
> from your machine when you are finished so that you can help the next
> person?
>
> Regards,
> - Robert
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com> wrote:
>   
>> I wrote a simple script that does port forwarding and it forwards the
>> VNC port to a server.  I have a script that the user runs then I connect
>> to my server on that port and I can use VNC to control their desktop.
>>
>> User:
>> ssh -X -p 3389 -N -R 5900:localhost:5900  support at bemus.homelinux.com
>>
>> SSH will prompt them for a password,  then I can connect providing they
>> have remote desktop turned on.
>>
>> Tony Bemus
>>
>>
>> Wolfger wrote:
>>     
>>> "reverse SSH"? You, sir, are either pulling my leg or over my head.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Brad McMahon<bradmcmahon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Wolfger
>>>> I suggest you setup a reverse ssh connection at login and an NX server on
>>>> their box.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Todd DeLand <todd.deland at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am a lurker as well, Chelsey :)
>>>> The included Remote Desktop tools in Gnome seem to work pretty well for me.
>>>> It really is just VNC.
>>>> Make sure you poke a hole in her router and forward the port to her machine
>>>> though so you can connect from outside of her network (I hope she is behind
>>>> a router).
>>>> Is it hot today or what?
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Chelsey Twigg <darth.indy at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> I haven't ever used it, but I found this article:
>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience with any
>>>>> KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all family and friends
>>>>> that use Ubuntu, and most of them live out-of-state
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command or
>>>>> two, if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just have her
>>>>> copy/paste the commands and run them. Once you get them past the initial
>>>>> fear of the command line, it makes things so much easier than remote
>>>>> desktop, or "OK, click here... Then there..." I've been putting together a
>>>>> bash script, actually, for friends to run on new installs, to install
>>>>> Medibuntu, updates, and favorite tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps!
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never chipped in.
>>>>> So hi everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into the
>>>>>> realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
>>>>>> agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
>>>>>> rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
>>>>>> easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
>>>>>> (preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
>>>>>> it be to do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Wolfger
>>>>>> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/wolfger
>>>>>> http://identi.ca/wolfger
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> --
>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> --
>>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> --
>> Tony Bemus
>> Bemus Hosting
>> Web Hosting and Design
>> http://www.bemushosting.com
>>
>>
>> --
>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>     
>
>   

-- 
Tony Bemus
Bemus Hosting
Web Hosting and Design
http://www.bemushosting.com



From jrwren at xmtp.net  Thu Jun 25 03:56:11 2009
From: jrwren at xmtp.net (Jay R. Wren)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:56:11 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support
In-Reply-To: <4A42E18F.4000800@bemushosting.com>
References: <3b00b3330906240935g345cf5fdubf822c16c24b7fe4@mail.gmail.com>	<825d8db00906240943t73c3c9esd9c6ebc703dc1dd8@mail.gmail.com>	<2d2f46300906240949j64d161b4hcce9d1b531c51541@mail.gmail.com>	<8C4B7CC1-4B7F-4F27-8C7F-C359A4BF84DE@gmail.com>	<3b00b3330906241139n4a8d2f2cu4e5223af32096124@mail.gmail.com>	<4A429630.8070300@bemushosting.com><4145b6790906241541n3c92e077nc86430870f9f42f4@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A42E18F.4000800@bemushosting.com>
Message-ID: <82D5E9214F454CC8A97CA893E760840A@theknife>

I could probably execute remote commands, and maybe even chsh.

does
ssh support at bemus.homelinux.com ls
show a directory listing?

--
Jay

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tony Bemus" <tony at bemushosting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:31 PM
To: "Ubuntu Michigan Local Community Team" <ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-mi] remote support

> Robert,  There is an account "support" on the server,  There is no shell
> access,  in the passwd file I put /bin/false for the shell.  so they
> only have access to forward ports and no shell access.  I can disconnect
> them by either ctrl+c when I'm controlling their desktop or I can kill
> their ssh process on the server.
>
> The one down fall is that with this design I can only use one person
> per that script.  If I wanted to help multiple people then they all
> would have to have their own ports in the script.
>
> I got the idea from a commercial product called Kaseya,  it is windows
> based but the windows client connected to a server and my computer
> connected to the server then I was able to control their desktop.
>
> Tony
>
> Robert Citek wrote:
>> This sounds like a really nice feature of ssh.   So I'm curious about
>> some details.  Does this mean that support has an account on
>> bemus.homelinux.com?  How do you prevent a remote user from gaining
>> shell access?  Or is that not an issue?  How do you disconnect them
>> from your machine when you are finished so that you can help the next
>> person?
>>
>> Regards,
>> - Robert
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Tony Bemus <tony at bemushosting.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wrote a simple script that does port forwarding and it forwards the
>>> VNC port to a server.  I have a script that the user runs then I connect
>>> to my server on that port and I can use VNC to control their desktop.
>>>
>>> User:
>>> ssh -X -p 3389 -N -R 5900:localhost:5900  support at bemus.homelinux.com
>>>
>>> SSH will prompt them for a password,  then I can connect providing they
>>> have remote desktop turned on.
>>>
>>> Tony Bemus
>>>
>>>
>>> Wolfger wrote:
>>>
>>>> "reverse SSH"? You, sir, are either pulling my leg or over my head.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Brad McMahon<bradmcmahon at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Wolfger
>>>>> I suggest you setup a reverse ssh connection at login and an NX server 
>>>>> on
>>>>> their box.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Todd DeLand <todd.deland at gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a lurker as well, Chelsey :)
>>>>> The included Remote Desktop tools in Gnome seem to work pretty well 
>>>>> for me.
>>>>> It really is just VNC.
>>>>> Make sure you poke a hole in her router and forward the port to her 
>>>>> machine
>>>>> though so you can connect from outside of her network (I hope she is 
>>>>> behind
>>>>> a router).
>>>>> Is it hot today or what?
>>>>> Todd
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Chelsey Twigg <darth.indy at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't ever used it, but I found this article:
>>>>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kubuntu/enable-remote-desktop-vnc-on-kubuntu/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm usually a GNOME person m'self, so I've not had any experience 
>>>>>> with any
>>>>>> KDE differences. I am, however, free tech support to all family and 
>>>>>> friends
>>>>>> that use Ubuntu, and most of them live out-of-state
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, for smaller problems that you know can be solved by a command 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> two, if you're able to IM with her, it's really easy to just have her
>>>>>> copy/paste the commands and run them. Once you get them past the 
>>>>>> initial
>>>>>> fear of the command line, it makes things so much easier than remote
>>>>>> desktop, or "OK, click here... Then there..." I've been putting 
>>>>>> together a
>>>>>> bash script, actually, for friends to run on new installs, to install
>>>>>> Medibuntu, updates, and favorite tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that helps!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. I've been lurking on the list for a few months but never chipped 
>>>>>> in.
>>>>>> So hi everyone!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Wolfger <wolfger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey guys and gals. I've recently inducted a non-computer-geek into 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> realm of Ubuntu users. She doesn't live too far away, which is why I
>>>>>>> agreed to give her tech support gratis (hey... I *really* wanted to
>>>>>>> rid the world of another virus-laden XP box!), but it would be much
>>>>>>> easier if I could give support from the convenience of my home.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So... Does anybody here have experience setting this up? What tools
>>>>>>> (preferably on the KDE side) are good for this? How complicated will
>>>>>>> it be to do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Wolfger
>>>>>>> http://wolfger.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/wolfger
>>>>>>> http://identi.ca/wolfger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Tony Bemus
>>> Bemus Hosting
>>> Web Hosting and Design
>>> http://www.bemushosting.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
>>> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
>>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Tony Bemus
> Bemus Hosting
> Web Hosting and Design
> http://www.bemushosting.com
>
>
> -- 
> ubuntu-us-mi mailing list
> ubuntu-us-mi at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-mi
> 


From greg at grossmeier.net  Fri Jun 26 19:56:50 2009
From: greg at grossmeier.net (Greg Grossmeier)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:56:50 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] [[Discuss] OpenStreetMap]
Message-ID: <20090626185650.GI5594@foucault>

Not sure how many of you aren't on the MUG mailing list, but this is a 
cool project that needs more GPS toting geeks in the US.

Greg

----- Forwarded message from Dirk Munson <dirk at cloudmade.com> -----

> From: Dirk Munson <dirk at cloudmade.com>
> Reply-To: For discussing Unix/Linux related topics <discuss at mug.org>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:34:49 +0100
> Subject: [Discuss] OpenStreetMap
> To: "discuss at mug.org" <discuss at mug.org>
> 
> Dear all-
> 
> Pleased to announce a get-together this weekend for OpenStreetMap.  If
> you're unfamiliar, OpenStreetMap is 'the Wikipedia of maps' a free open
> source geo database of the entire world.  Our 120,000+ contributors use OSM
> to find and share a variety of map features.  (hiking trails, biking trails,
> POIs, and much more)  http://openstreetmap.org
> 
> We're starting to cultivate a community for OSM in Southwest Michigan.
> We're holding one of our first Detroit area events this Saturday.  It's at
> Five15, a coffee shop and bookstore at 515 S. Washington Ave, in Royal Oak,
> MI 48067.  All are welcomed, it's fun, it's free, you can help.  The event
> page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Detroit_June09_Mapping_Party
> 
> We'll be getting new and experienced mappers together for some discussion,
> fun, and some mapping.  Feel free to bring your laptop and/or GPS.  We'll
> also have a few GPS units to lend out.
> 
> No worries if you can't make it to this weekend's event, we hope this will
> be the first of many get-togethers for OSM in the Detroit area.  To stay up
> to date on our efforts, please join the MeetUp group:
> http://www.meetup.com/Detroit-OpenStreetMappers/
> 
> Please drop me a line if you have any questions or suggestions.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Dirk
> 
> Dirk Munson || Community Ambassador || OpenStreetMap.org || 773.263.2688 ||
> twitter: @themapguy
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at mug.org
> http://www.mug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
|       Greg Grossmeier |
| http://grossmeier.net |


From robert.citek at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 20:43:42 2009
From: robert.citek at gmail.com (Robert Citek)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:43:42 -0500
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] [[Discuss] OpenStreetMap]
In-Reply-To: <20090626185650.GI5594@foucault>
References: <20090626185650.GI5594@foucault>
Message-ID: <4145b6790906261243n59e4d232l60e04bc98d9dc7df@mail.gmail.com>

Soon as I'm back in MI, it be nice to meet up with someone for a
guided tour of how this works and how I can use my Garmin to
contribute.

Regards,
- Robert

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Greg Grossmeier<greg at grossmeier.net> wrote:
> Not sure how many of you aren't on the MUG mailing list, but this is a
> cool project that needs more GPS toting geeks in the US.


From weboide at codealpha.net  Sat Jun 27 12:09:19 2009
From: weboide at codealpha.net (Arnaud Soyez)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:09:19 -0400
Subject: [ubuntu-us-mi] [[Discuss] OpenStreetMap]
In-Reply-To: <4145b6790906261243n59e4d232l60e04bc98d9dc7df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090626185650.GI5594@foucault>
	<4145b6790906261243n59e4d232l60e04bc98d9dc7df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090627070919.71e5bbaa@glados>

I looked at it two weeks ago, and in fact, the US roads on OpenStreetMap
are pretty complete and accurate already. I felt bad when I saw that my
TomTom GPS data that I gathered was less accurate than OSM. 

But it seems there is a lot of work to do on highway ramps/exits naming
and giving them the right direction of traffic, as well as, for other
roads, speed limits, traffic lights and gas stations would be neat to
have.

It'd be smarter, though, to ask the OSM developers what really needs
to be done in the US.

Arnaud

-- 
~ Arnaud Soyez
[GPG] BD1D82F4 (keyserver.ubuntu.com)

Le Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:43:42 -0500,
Robert Citek <robert.citek at gmail.com> a ?crit :

> Soon as I'm back in MI, it be nice to meet up with someone for a
> guided tour of how this works and how I can use my Garmin to
> contribute.
> 
> Regards,
> - Robert
> 
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Greg Grossmeier<greg at grossmeier.net>
> wrote:
> > Not sure how many of you aren't on the MUG mailing list, but this
> > is a cool project that needs more GPS toting geeks in the US.
> 





