JVLB UEFI Problem

Cody Edwin Smith cody.smith9202 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 5 00:38:17 UTC 2011


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I thought I might point this out that looking at the wiki page on
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting, just using GUIs to just
install GRUB doesn't seem to do the trick, as you need to compile it
with special flags, and this is best done on a Linux machine, such as
Kubuntu ;)

just thought I'd point that out.

Cody Smith



On 11/04/2011 04:01 PM, James Bradley wrote:
> An additional thought occurs, if the secure boot feature is
> available in the firmware, as you suggest, is it activated through
> the setting of a single bit? If so, corruption of the firmware due
> to a bad component or a glitch during the flashing of the BIOS
> might account for the problem, enabling secure boot accidentally,
> (and wouldn't that be a comforting thought?)
> 
> JVLB
> 
> 
> On 11/02/2011 04:25 PM, Allison Randal wrote:
>> This is perfect, thanks! A bunch of us are at UDS this week, so
>> I'm collecting details. One useful piece, next time you get
>> access to the hardware, since the CD boots, you can run the
>> Ubuntu Friendly tests straight from the Live CD session:
>> 
>> http://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/
>> 
>> That can track down more detail on where the failure might be.
>> 
>> Looks like I might get access to similar hardware next week, as
>> well.
>> 
>> Allison
>> 
>> On 10/31/2011 11:53 AM, James Bradley wrote:
>>> Thank you very much for your attention in this matter,
>>> Allison.
>>> 
>>> This page at HP's site has the most complete specifications I
>>> can find: 
>>> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-5146457-5157056.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
The machine is not in my possession, so I can't immediately access it,
>>> (I'm helping a friend set it up). If there is more information
>>> you need, like BIOS rev number or such, let me know and I'll
>>> try to get it for you.
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how many details have been forwarded to you, so
>>> let me briefly recap. Kubuntu 11.10-64 installs on its
>>> partition without apparent problem. The installer identifies
>>> the separate boot partition used by Win 7 as the target for
>>> GRUB and the installation appears to progress normally. Upon
>>> attempting to reboot, GRUB's menu never appears and the machine
>>> boots straight into Windows. Attempts to install GRUB using the
>>> Boot Repair disk appear to run normally, giving no errors, but 
>>> upon reboot the machine again immediately boots Windows.
>>> 
>>> It would certainly seem that it is GRUB which is failing to
>>> install. I can try to install using the command line, if you
>>> think that will be helpful. Please let me know if there are any
>>> special parameters which should be passed to grub-install in
>>> such an attempt. Perhaps I should add, there is an entry in the
>>> BIOS labeled "UEFI", but selecting it produces no response.
>>> 
>>> It should be noted that HP consumer tech support was not
>>> knowledgeable on the issue and was blocked from querying
>>> business tech support by internal policy. Perhaps you can wield
>>> sufficient clout to obtain a better result.
>>> 
>>> Again, thank you for your time and attention in this matter.
>>> 
>>> JVLB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/31/2011 07:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote:
>>>> This is almost certainly a problem with some hardware
>>>> component in the system. UEFI has been around a long time,
>>>> and is compatible with Linux (including Ubuntu). The Secure
>>>> Boot feature was just introduced in the UEFI v2.3.1
>>>> specification released in April 2011, and the hardware 
>>>> vendors are still working on implementation. So, UEFI Secure
>>>> Boot isn't shipping in current hardware.
>>>> 
>>>> JVLB, if you let me know a little more about the specs of
>>>> your system, I can look up the components in our hardware
>>>> database (http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/) and see if we can pinpoint
>>>> a likely cause of failure.
>>>> 
>>>> Allison
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/30/2011 07:48 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
>>>>> Hey JVLB,
>>>>> 
>>>>> So the UEFI issue you were having which I shared on my blog
>>>>> is getting around the entire FOSS community (So far
>>>>> Mandriva Forums, Linux Mint Forums, Ubuntu Forums and every
>>>>> social network site) anyways a Ubuntu member suggested
>>>>> trying a 64bit image for the install and also you might try
>>>>> a alternate ISO if you haven't already.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is some concern that it might be a Ubuntu bug instead
>>>>> of UEFI/Secure Boot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- bkerensa
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
> 

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