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[Art Alexion]

Eric Dunbar wrote:

>>Again, chocolate and vanilla.
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>I'd probably still choose chocolate since I'm hooked on VBa
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I like to use VBA, too, but attribute it to having no training in 
programming.  I liked WordBasic before the advent of VBA.  After all, 
VBA is the vector for Word and Outlook exploiting viruses.

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>>IMO, MS' greatest user app achievement is Word.  I use OOo Writer
>>because I work in Linux and don't want to go the Crossover Office route,
>>but it has structural flaws such as a poorly designed DOM that leaves it
>>far behind Word.  The problem is that OOo wants to compete with Word's
>>functionality, but Word's best feature is their document logic and how
>>rationally document structure can be manipulated by the user.  As
>>someone who uses a word processor more than any other piece of
>>productivity software, the features are just fluff as you can do more
>>yourself designing simple macros as long as the DOM is understandable
>>and rational.  OOo, doesn't seem to be addressing this.
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><chuckle> Another Windows-based experience ;-). Us early Mac users (&
>Amiga & Atari & Apple GS... can't leave those GUI experiments out of
>the mix, 1984-1991, pre-Windows 3.1 era) had so many good word
>processors to choose from whilst the DOS world was languishing in
>WordPerfect CLUI agony that Word was nothing special. It was good but
>there were often better, even in the Windows world when that came
>along (anyone remember AbiWord... when I first used it in 1993 it blew
>me away as a Window app... so simple, yet so functional. It was as if
>they'd designed it for a Mac ;P). 
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... to me, Abiword was and still is an unstable toy.  Most of the 
"features" it did have don't work.  Formatting compatibility of even 
simple documents is problematic.  It is not very customizable unless you 
have the ability to hack the source.  And it brought down so much of the 
rest of the system when it crashed in Windows that I had to remove it.  
On the Linux side it was pointless when you had StarWriter, and then OOo 
Writer, or WordPerfect 8 (the last native code -- not wine-based -- 
version).

>Word 2.0 for
>Windows was a joke).
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IMO Word 2.0 was better than any version of Abiword, and in some 
structural ways better than OOo 1.9.

>Anyway, list I'm terribly sorry for this trip down memory lane.
>Perhaps it'll stimulate some long forgotten trials and tribulations in
>others out there.
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Yeah, I think we should take it off list if we want to continue it.



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